Rico Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) Light years better than EJ. Good luck Thad. Edited January 26 by Rico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Low Positive said: This thread is about ready to turn very ugly. We unfortunately can't mention a single black person interviewing for a position without the usual cast of haters coming out, pretending to stick up for the candidate, by limiting their opportunities for growth and networking. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The NFL coaching system is lot more like the medieval guild system than the modern workplace. In the 15th century, a master craftsman would train his son for the profession, ensure he got into the guild, hand down the business to him at the appropriate moment, and the system would perpetuate itself through generations. The wild card in all of this is whether the son deserves it irrespective of whether he had outsized advantages in training/mentorship along the way. Kyle Shanahan is a great coach, and he is where he is because of who his father is. But perhaps he was exposed to learning that no one else gets given who his father was. But of course there's Hackett, Steve Belichick, the Reid kids, Gregg Williams's son, the Shulas, etc. etc. I'm sure I'm forgetting some. It can be infuriating, but once when understands that it has always operated like a medieval craftsmen's guild, it becomes less mystifying. The Rooney Rule cuts against that, which is a good thing. Norv Turner's son is another. I suppose Bobby Babich here too. You are right nepotism is still a real force in the NFL. I hate that any black coach who gets an interview gets "Rooney Rule" shouted at them. Thad has revived the career of a QB kicked off three teams in 15 months. I think him getting OC looks on the back of that work is very much earned. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Tomlin won’t have gotten the Steelers job if he wasn’t given a chance. the rule certainly has its flaws but the nepotism/ buddy system in the bro hiring is out of control. You recycle the same garbage coaches/ front office people because they are related to them or friends with them. but who needs another Brad Holmes when you can hire the ex Chargers GM who just got fired? Fair point. However, Tomlin was also a coach in the NFL at various levels for 7 years before he took that interview. A bit more qualified and believable that he would be more than just a token interview. People often overlook that. The problem I have with this interview is that (at least to me) signifies that a real OC search is not about to happen. The job is Joe's. Just like it was Ken's in the last OC search. They are choosing comfortable over what may be better for the development and growth of the offense. There are plenty of minority candidates with better qualifications if they wanted to conduct a true search for OC. Perhaps ask for permission to interview EB? Duce Staley. This is a farce to meet a rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: This same bad, tired argument every hiring season. It is absolutely valuable to get interviewing experience and network-building opportunities. I've literally been through this a number of times myself. Interviewing for spots I didn't really have a shot at, but turned into a great opportunity to get on the radar of executives and surprise/impress them. When you approach it positively and graciously, it's a great experience and one of the best ways to build your career. Great post. Before I got my current (right now dream job), I loved interviewing. I had a job so there was zero pressure and it’s was just great practice. I’m very humble but I got offered like 7 or 8 jobs the past few years because I started to kill interviews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 22 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I think qualified candidates will find their ways to jobs by their resume No doubt. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: No thanks. We’re going the interview route because it’s required. There are a lot more qualified candidates that I’d consider here …… My guess Brady McD are a package. Fine, produce next year. If not, & we get a wash rinse repeat it’ll be time to move on….. If McDermott and Brady can't get beyond the divisional round next season, they'll both be gone. I honestly think this will be Sean's last stand to take a HOF qb beyond early playoff exits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Great post. Before I got my current (right now dream job), I loved interviewing. I had a job so there was zero pressure and it’s was just great practice. I’m very humble but I got offered like 7 or 8 jobs the past few years because I started to kill interviews. Exactly, thanks. I always find it hilarious that people go out of their way to post things here which only illustrate how little they've achieved in the business world. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 44 minutes ago, Process said: Is he in the running to be the o coordinator for the bucs? If he is ready to be an OC I would think they would just promote him. Yes. He is expected to get interviewed for that job too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Maybe the Bills want to promote Brady but figure if he’s successful he’ll be gone in a year or so. If Lewis is impressive in his interview perhaps he’d be brought on as the QB coach. Learn the system and the organization and move up in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Norv Turner's son is another. I suppose Bobby Babich here too. You are right nepotism is still a real force in the NFL. I hate that any black coach who gets an interview gets "Rooney Rule" shouted at them. Thad has revived the career of a QB kicked off three teams in 15 months. I think him getting OC looks on the back of that work is very much earned. Just found out that Brian Callahan is 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Fair point. However, Tomlin was also a coach in the NFL at various levels for 7 years before he took that interview. A bit more qualified and believable that he would be more than just a token interview. People often overlook that. The problem I have with this interview is that (at least to me) signifies that a real OC search is not about to happen. The job is Joe's. Just like it was Ken's in the last OC search. They are choosing comfortable over what may be better for the development and growth of the offense. There are plenty of minority candidates with better qualifications if they wanted to conduct a true search for OC. Perhaps ask for permission to interview EB? Duce Staley. This is a farce to meet a rule. Good counter. I hope they interview Duce or EB. I like Brady but it wasn’t like this was some perfect offense under him (and it is very hard to take over mid season to be fair). They should keep interviewing. and I don’t why this has to be some “controversial “ topic. It’s ok to have different thoughts. Part of the problem is this country is adults can’t have civil discussions. There were issues with racism at certain positions for a while (qbs and head coaches). It has done a much better job at opening up opportunities for people and I struggle to see why that is a bad thing. I also think the cronyism is a much bigger problem at this point too. 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No doubt. Sorry I cheated on your mom Steve. Want to be the DC? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Fair point. However, Tomlin was also a coach in the NFL at various levels for 7 years before he took that interview. A bit more qualified and believable that he would be more than just a token interview. People often overlook that. The problem I have with this interview is that (at least to me) signifies that a real OC search is not about to happen. The job is Joe's. Just like it was Ken's in the last OC search. They are choosing comfortable over what may be better for the development and growth of the offense. There are plenty of minority candidates with better qualifications if they wanted to conduct a true search for OC. Perhaps ask for permission to interview EB? Duce Staley. This is a farce to meet a rule. For all we know we reached out to EB and he said "no thanks". I dont see him taking ANY interviews right now. So maybe he's waiting to see how everything falls into place. Additionally, as far as the search is concerned, we've discussed it in other threads, but there really arent a ton of candidates out there in general. With the acceleration of promoting Offensive coaches, it has pretty much created a talent vacuum in that pipeline. Any OC worth a darn is already a head coach. Heck, teams already started promoting QB coaches who never called plays directly to Head Coach (Zac Taylor, LeFleur, etc)! Outside of Klint Kubiak (another nepo case btw) there arent that many promising, experienced Offensive coaches out there. Edited January 26 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It’s going to be so disappointing when we interview a bunch of unqualified people just to hand the job to Brady. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Well interviewing Lewis just opens the door for hiring Brady. Pretty insulting to Thad Lewis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I hope they give the man a legitimate look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Bangarang said: It’s going to be so disappointing when we interview a bunch of unqualified people just to hand the job to Brady. Who would you like to see us interview that is better qualified? Just now, wppete said: Pretty insulting to Thad Lewis. I guarantee Thad doesnt think so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, wppete said: Well interviewing Lewis just opens the door for hiring Brady. Pretty insulting to Thad Lewis. I honestly do not want Brady. I want someone with more experience and although many rag on McDaniel for his HC gigs, the man has the experience, including working with Tom Brady and Superbowls. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Fair point. However, Tomlin was also a coach in the NFL at various levels for 7 years before he took that interview. A bit more qualified and believable that he would be more than just a token interview. People often overlook that. The problem I have with this interview is that (at least to me) signifies that a real OC search is not about to happen. The job is Joe's. Just like it was Ken's in the last OC search. They are choosing comfortable over what may be better for the development and growth of the offense. There are plenty of minority candidates with better qualifications if they wanted to conduct a true search for OC. Perhaps ask for permission to interview EB? Duce Staley. This is a farce to meet a rule. I mean I wouldn't go with a first time OC myself but tell me what Duce Staley has done that gives you more confidence that he'd make a good NFL OC than Thad? Neither have ever been a coordinator. Thad has coached receivers and Quarterbacks. Duce has only ever coached running backs. For this offense with this QB I know which I'd consider a better fit. EB is a different case. He is qualified to do the job. As always the questions with EB have been about things off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who would you like to see us interview that is better qualified? I guarantee Thad doesnt think so. You already mentioned someone that is more qualified. Do you really think that Thad is the most qualified minority candidate? C'mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 36 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Explain Nate Hackett? Or Pat Shurmur having two chances to be a head coach? Or Rob Ryan? Or Andy Reid’s ex heroin son being a d line coach? Or garbage Brian Schottmeir? Or a million other examples. im not saying it’s all racism but it isn’t just the best guys getting the job. There is a guy in high school or college who is a million times better than Hackett but will never get a chance because is dad wasn’t a nfl coach or he’s not friends with the right people. This is truth. Getting a foot in the door in the NFL is completely about who you know. That is how most guys who are not ex pros get a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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