BillsFooteball Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I know McDermott is not alone on this. I need to know why when say bills are leading, on defense, have timeouts to use l, end of game/half , he always use timeouts?! Like he’s going to get penalized if he doesn’t use them. I don't get the purpose. I’m sure someone here can advise but I assume it’s to see how the offense lines up?! They keep stats for everything so I need to know % chance something good comes out of it. I actually have a running joke at home that the % chance immediately after he called timeout, the very next play is a TD or very least first down must be 90% lol. I can’t be alone feeling this way. Happened again yesterday end of half, I can think of at least 5 times this year alone that happened. Hell even if it’s a miracle type play. Chiefs game, where toney lined up Offside but would have been TD, after a timeout. To me I seen them get burned way to much in this. All it does is allows offense to get set, get together come up with exact play they want and discuss. Petty? Maybe. Has to my least favorite thing about him. Do others have issues with this game in and game out? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: I know McDermott is not alone on this. I need to know why when say bills are leading, on defense, have timeouts to use l, end of game/half , he always use timeouts?! Like he’s going to get penalized if he doesn’t use them. I don't get the purpose. I’m sure someone here can advise but I assume it’s to see how the offense lines up?! They keep stats for everything so I need to know % chance something good comes out of it. I actually have a running joke at home that the % chance immediately after he called timeout, the very next play is a TD or very least first down must be 90% lol. I can’t be alone feeling this way. Happened again yesterday end of half, I can think of at least 5 times this year alone that happened. Hell even if it’s a miracle type play. Chiefs game, where toney lined up Offside but would have been TD, after a timeout. To me I seen them get burned way to much in this. All it does is allows offense to get set, get together come up with exact play they want and discuss. Petty? Maybe. Has to my least favorite thing about him. Do others have issues with this game in and game out? A lot of coaches call timeouts before plays in big situations just like Sean It happened in multiple playoff games this weekend... It's not just Sean thing Edited January 16 by Buffalo716 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I agree that McD is one of the worst coaches in the league when it comes to smart timeout use and efficient clock management. Pretty sure he's demonstrated that frequently over the last 6 years, and it has been pointed out numerous times in this forum. One reason I can come up with is if the defense is exhausted, then a TO gives them a little time to rest up. Another reason may be he wants to see what formation the offense is in, so that he may properly set the defense, although after the TO, the opposing team may simply go to a new/different formation. 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 This year in particular, the defense has had multiple new players in the games at crucial times because of all of the injuries. For that reason alone, I give McD a bit of a break calling defensive timeouts (although it bugs me in general). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 30 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: I know McDermott is not alone on this. I need to know why when say bills are leading, on defense, have timeouts to use l, end of game/half , he always use timeouts?! Like he’s going to get penalized if he doesn’t use them. I don't get the purpose. I’m sure someone here can advise but I assume it’s to see how the offense lines up?! They keep stats for everything so I need to know % chance something good comes out of it. I actually have a running joke at home that the % chance immediately after he called timeout, the very next play is a TD or very least first down must be 90% lol. I can’t be alone feeling this way. Happened again yesterday end of half, I can think of at least 5 times this year alone that happened. Hell even if it’s a miracle type play. Chiefs game, where toney lined up Offside but would have been TD, after a timeout. To me I seen them get burned way to much in this. All it does is allows offense to get set, get together come up with exact play they want and discuss. Petty? Maybe. Has to my least favorite thing about him. Do others have issues with this game in and game out? Time outs common around key plays late in the game like on 4th downs is common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: A lot of coaches call timeouts before plays in big situations just like Sean It happened in multiple playoff games this weekend... It's not just Sean thing Yes this is not an anti-McDermott thread. Genuinely curious on reasoning and success rate specifically to bills. First sentence noted I know McDermott is not alone on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Yes this is not an anti-McDermott thread. Genuinely curious on reasoning and success rate specifically to bills. First sentence noted I know McDermott is not alone on this The reason is because on big plays.... You want your best play call ... So when Sean or any coach lines up... And they get to see the offensive personnel and formation He gets a look at what you want to do... So now the offensive coach is put in a tougher position Do I run the same thing from the same look that he's seen and maybe knows what's coming?... Even if it's my best play, he knows my look So the defensive coach has a look at what you want to execute... So the offense has to either run the same thing which you've seen pre snap ... Or move off of their best play call for the situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 It’s the same thing you see in basketball. The coach wants to see how the offense is lined up prior to inbounding the ball. There’s no telling if it works to your benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Time Outs should be used only as a tool of the Offense to get more time to score more points. Defensive Time Outs are for the weak and ill-prepared (unless it's to stop the clock to get the ball back for your Offense). 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On a side Q, why did Tomlin call the timeout with 2 seconds left before half when we were kneeling down the clock? Seemed weird to me and almost a bit of an "f you"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: On a side Q, why did Tomlin call the timeout with 2 seconds left before half when we were kneeling down the clock? Seemed weird to me and almost a bit of an "f you"... Close. It was an f$ck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I think it serves also to provide reminders in late-game key situations, especially when you do have back-ups in there. Things like: "There are only 10 seconds left and they have no timeouts. Make a tackle in the field of play and the game is over!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: A lot of coaches call timeouts before plays in big situations just like Sean It happened in multiple playoff games this weekend... It's not just Sean thing Yup, it's smart because it allows you to see what they are trying to do and then adjust to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 37 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Time Outs should be used only as a tool of the Offense to get more time to score more points. Defensive Time Outs are for the weak and ill-prepared (unless it's to stop the clock to get the ball back for your Offense). McD has had Dorian Williams and AJ Klein getting defensive alignments set. Didn’t that big rushing TD by the Jets week one happen because Bernard screwed up alignment? I feel like some major defensive screwups are okay to call TOs for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, FireChans said: McD has had Dorian Williams and AJ Klein getting defensive alignments set. Didn’t that big rushing TD by the Jets week one happen because Bernard screwed up alignment? I feel like some major defensive screwups are okay to call TOs for. I feel I covered those examples in my "ill prepared" qualifier. I'll give Dorian and AJ a break because they've done well getting thrown into the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 To me, if the opposing team, needs to rush to beat the clock for a critical game tying/ winning FG, you NEVER, EVER should give them more time to prepare! Like McClapper did in Philly, especially on a rainy, windy day! Make them RUSH! And if you foolishly do… can you please count to 11 during it… like in… https://youtu.be/oAQtMijs73w?si=6Hksw10tvrSIMeAK 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, BillsFooteball said: I know McDermott is not alone on this. I need to know why when say bills are leading, on defense, have timeouts to use l, end of game/half , he always use timeouts?! Like he’s going to get penalized if he doesn’t use them. I don't get the purpose. I’m sure someone here can advise but I assume it’s to see how the offense lines up?! They keep stats for everything so I need to know % chance something good comes out of it. I actually have a running joke at home that the % chance immediately after he called timeout, the very next play is a TD or very least first down must be 90% lol. I can’t be alone feeling this way. Happened again yesterday end of half, I can think of at least 5 times this year alone that happened. Hell even if it’s a miracle type play. Chiefs game, where toney lined up Offside but would have been TD, after a timeout. To me I seen them get burned way to much in this. All it does is allows offense to get set, get together come up with exact play they want and discuss. Petty? Maybe. Has to my least favorite thing about him. Do others have issues with this game in and game out? He called timeouts at the end of the half because he wanted to get the ball back for his offense. This was obvious. As far as his other uses, in the Dunne articles the said that it’s a called a “kodak.” It gives the defense a look at the personnel and the potential the play the offense is running and an opportunity to match it best on defense. This is common among defenses, though sometimes I feel it gives the offense a chance to rest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I feel I covered those examples in my "ill prepared" qualifier. I'll give Dorian and AJ a break because they've done well getting thrown into the fire. Kinda comes with the territory with lots of guys making first career starts imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: A lot of coaches call timeouts before plays in big situations just like Sean It happened in multiple playoff games this weekend... It's not just Sean thing Funny you should say that... In yesterdays Athletic there was a write on this in the weekly "Pick Six" column It shows that coaches call around 20% of their TO's with more than 5 minutes left in game. McD made the list, but many other what are considered good to very good coaches also made the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Close. It was an f$ck up. what? he accidentally called a TO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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