Gabe Davis & Cook decline to interview after the game

[Utah John]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:36 AM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Whose fault is that?

 

 

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Beane's, obviously. Instead of drafting one of the great young WRs, he picked Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam.  Instead of picking up a great WR as a FA, he signed Von Miller to a huge contract (which sounded great for a while, but geez he's not very good now), and spent a fortune on Dawson Knox before drafting Kincaid.  It's like there's no plan, no philosophy about holding together a team and continuing to make it better.

[DuckyBoys]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:36 AM, par73 said:

Catch Allen's post game press conference, where he rushes in as soon as the game ends with his hat pulled down, mumbles a few semi-coherent platitudes (while Morse, who is with him, gives thoughtful responses), then abruptly leaves? That is the team leader--- pouts like a little child when the going is tough.

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Yeah he's not handling the adversity well  Wish he'd just get pissed out and stop with this low normal mumbo jumbo  Throw some chairs  Destroy some tvs in the locker room

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:39 AM, Utah John said:

Beane's, obviously. Instead of drafting one of the great young WRs, he picked Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam.  Instead of picking up a great WR as a FA, he signed Von Miller to a huge contract (which sounded great for a while, but geez he's not very good now), and spent a fortune on Dawson Knox before drafting Kincaid.  It's like there's no plan, no philosophy about holding together a team and continuing to make it better.

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Right. Everyone must go. This fish has rotted from the head

[DuckyBoys]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:39 AM, Utah John said:

Beane's, obviously. Instead of drafting one of the great young WRs, he picked Boogie Basham and Kaiir Elam.  Instead of picking up a great WR as a FA, he signed Von Miller to a huge contract (which sounded great for a while, but geez he's not very good now), and spent a fortune on Dawson Knox before drafting Kincaid.  It's like there's no plan, no philosophy about holding together a team and continuing to make it better.

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were never going to know but lot of this has McDermotts fingerprints all over it  They said they wouldnt get into long term cap problems but sign a old pass rusher to huge long term money

[Walking Tall]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:08 AM, LeGOATski said:

A lot of players decline interviews after losses every week. This is not abnormal, especially considering neither of these guys are huge talkers. If you're not required to interview, who really wants to sit there and talk to a reporter when they're pissed after a loss?

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When you’re a captain like Gabe Davis? 

[Utah John]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:29 AM, Gunsgoodtime said:

As I watched this game, I saw a team that had no leadership, like they lost their coach.  I believe it at this point

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It's the other way around -- the coach has lost this team -- but I think that's what you meant.

[1onemangang7]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:43 AM, Beast said:

When you’re a captain like Gabe Davis? 

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I mean it is part of the job 

[Walking Tall]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:40 AM, DuckyBoys said:

Yeah he's not handling the adversity well  Wish he'd just get pissed out and stop with this low normal mumbo jumbo  Throw some chairs  Destroy some tvs in the locker room

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Hee’s the thing….Josh is extremely talented. Physically, the best QB in 5his franchises history. I still have faith in him but he is no Jim Kelly.While he is more talented than Kelly, Kelly was the ultimate leader. Sometimes Kelly was too abrasive but the guy oozed toughness and the will to win.

 

Josh is out QB and needs that edge.

[Utah John]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:42 AM, DuckyBoys said:

were never going to know but lot of this has McDermotts fingerprints all over it  They said they wouldnt get into long term cap problems but sign a old pass rusher to huge long term money

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That's right.  Beane had a long-term plan to turn the Bills into a dynasty, which required very strong drafting and using draft picks as inexpensive roster players.  And required NOT going out and blowing money on a FA.  The reason they went out and got Miller and spent all that money on him, was the 13 seconds game, when the current pass rushers couldn't get to Mahomes.  (And that loss is on McDermott.)  So McDermott wanted a closer to rush the passer.  So Beane broke his own rule and paid Miller.  But even if Miller was still playing well, Beane's plan still fell apart because of his very spotty record drafting players.  

 

The reason the Bills' window is closing (already has closed, possibly) isn't Josh's contract.  It's dozens of small, bad decisions and a few whoppers.

[DapperCam]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:48 AM, Utah John said:

That's right.  Beane had a long-term plan to turn the Bills into a dynasty, which required very strong drafting and using draft picks as inexpensive roster players.  And required NOT going out and blowing money on a FA.  The reason they went out and got Miller and spent all that money on him, was the 13 seconds game, when the current pass rushers couldn't get to Mahomes.  (And that loss is on McDermott.)  So McDermott wanted a closer to rush the passer.  So Beane broke his own rule and paid Miller.  But even if Miller was still playing well, Beane's plan still fell apart because of his very spotty record drafting players.  

 

The reason the Bills' window is closing (already has closed, possibly) isn't Josh's contract.  It's dozens of small, bad decisions and a few whoppers.

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Allen will have like the 10th biggest QB cap hit after a couple more guys sign this off-season. As of now it will be the 7th highest cap hit. Drafting has killed us.

[Zag20]

It’s obviously over for this team with the current coaching staff. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

Zero accountability.   Captains not talking after the game, McD deflection, Hollywood Allen pouting with one word unthoughtful answers after the game.  We have a slew of babies and mentally weak players.  For a coach that is reportedly so detail oriented, preaches culture  and "love", this is the exact opposite. 

[Bad Things]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:06 AM, Bangarang said:

Anyone get an update from Ed on how many more sacks he needs to get the bonus?

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Why are you dissing on Ed?

I thought he had a solid game tonight.

[Bangarang]

  On 11/14/2023 at 6:15 AM, Bad Things said:

Why are you dissing on Ed?

I thought he had a solid game tonight.

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Not dissing him. Just poking fun at how close he got multiple times tonight.

Edited November 14, 2023 by Bangarang

[IronyAbounds]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:05 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

At the least, it essentially punished the rest of the team for the time he was in the doghouse.  Cook was running wild once put back in the game.

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Yeah, but he got stripped a second time and was only saved by a lucky bounce.

[Dr.Sack]

This board wants to know what Elam & Tremaine had to say. Like no one else to blame except blame itself. 

[LeGOATski]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:33 AM, Utah John said:

What I saw was that when Cook was playing, the offense came to life.  Cook took the plays where Murray got a short gain, and gashed the defense.  

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I guess the benching worked then.

[Bad Things]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:36 AM, Nelius said:

I’m now officially open to the wildest conspiracy theories about how this team’s culture took a nosedive in like 11 months. Really kind of bizarre

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I think it had something to do with those two Bills employees caught screwing in London.

[DapperCam]

  On 11/14/2023 at 6:15 AM, Bad Things said:

Why are you dissing on Ed?

I thought he had a solid game tonight.

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He got good pressure, but would overshoot his target every time. Wilson is slippery I guess!

[Nextmanup]

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:08 AM, DuckyBoys said:

Feel for Cook  Showing up a grown man on prime time tv to show the world who's boss is weak sauce  If Sean had class he'd fire himself and fess up that he is not the guy to take this team to the SB

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McDermott is your classic, traditional, idiotic, "football guy."

Of course he benches players when they fumble.  He always has.

 

And yes, it's idiotic.

 

 

  On 11/14/2023 at 5:10 AM, Virgil said:

Davis is fools gold to me.  Looks the part, makes Josh think he can hit him for big plays, then drops, runs the wrong route, or the Db beats him to the ball.  
 

I’m over him

 

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So is the team; no way he's back.  Then again, hopefully the regime is gone too, so who knows how this plays out.

 

It's going to get worse (this year) before it gets better.

 

We haven't seen rock bottom yet, not by a long shot.