White Linen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I didn't like the timeout before 4th down. However, most of our fans have zero clue about timeour strategy. He was getting questioned in the GDT for the end of first half timeout which he played perfectly. I also get that the number say go for the 4th downs. But the only reason this got close was stupidity by individual defensive players - namely Johnson and Phillips. The Bills stopped Tampa twice. I think we did get a bit conservative in the 4th quarter but it wasn't on 4th down calls it was on playcalling. Dorsey stopped attacking. Yes only top tier fans understand timeout strategy. Like the ones that think Allen is trending into Tannehill territory. A bit conservative? You mean like on the final kickoff, coming off a penalty and our returner lays down in the fetal position. Then you say Dorsey stopped attacking? That's coming from the strategy of a defensive minded, too conservative head coach. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 In the waning seconds of the game, we had Mayfield for a sack only to find McD called a time out. Instead of a few seconds left, the clock was reset to 16 seconds. He's had several TOs that cost us in the past as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falgobofu Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) They are atrocious and constant, the offense were gassed and scrambling but lets give them a breather. Game management is and has been a problem for a long time, the examples are abundant and at the worst time. The talent is there but the coaching is not, how do we go from barely scoring in the first half of the most recent games to scoring 17 last night? Then nothing in the 4th quarter to finish this garbage team......im not losing faith in the team but the coaching is an issue. Edited October 27, 2023 by falgobofu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He did save his timeouts yesterday until the end of the game. Yes, I'm referring to overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, FireChans said: I was just waiting for someone, anyone, to realize I was just snipping your OP for all my responses. Some folks like @NewEra thought I had changed my ways I know you’ll never change your ways indefinitely. Thought it may have been a momentary lapse 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I didn't like the timeout before 4th down. However, most of our fans have zero clue about timeour strategy. He was getting questioned in the GDT for the end of first half timeout which he played perfectly. I also get that the number say go for the 4th downs. But the only reason this got close was stupidity by individual defensive players - namely Johnson and Phillips. The Bills stopped Tampa twice. I think we did get a bit conservative in the 4th quarter but it wasn't on 4th down calls it was on playcalling. Dorsey stopped attacking. Not true. It got close because McD wouldn't drive the dagger in and let the offense convert on 4&2 or 4&3 and he was chirping in the headset to Dorsey about playing conservatively. He has become way to involved in the offense. 22 minutes ago, White Linen said: Yes only top tier fans understand timeout strategy. Like the ones that think Allen is trending into Tannehill territory. A bit conservative? You mean like on the final kickoff, coming off a penalty and our returner lays down in the fetal position. Then you say Dorsey stopped attacking? That's coming from the strategy of a defensive minded, too conservative head coach. Absolutely 100% correct. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, FireChans said: Are people really upset with our 5-3 Bills? Yes, because we're a few plays away from being 8-0 or 3-5. The team is better than that and it comes down to coaching. Edited October 27, 2023 by yall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Not true. It got close because McD wouldn't drive the dagger in and let the offense convert on 4&2 or 4&3 and he was chirping in the headset to Dorsey about playing conservatively. He has become way to involved in the offense. You have zero evidence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The timeout before the Bucs touchdown in the 4th quarter was really really stupid Baker and their offense was struggling on the 3 plays before that. Heck, they only got that prior 1st down because of the face mask penalty. The Bills defense didn’t exactly looked gassed at that point. I’m confident saying the Bucs don’t convert a 1st down nevertheless touchdown without that timeout called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 hours ago, section122 said: I really want a reporter to do the leg work of how many times it has burned the Bills. It seems like every time he calls one it does nothing for the defense and everything for the offense! Ask Jerry Sullivan he is not doing anything these days. He will write his report saying that every game this has happened 4 times per half and then view a few game tapes and see that his research matches his column. This report will be used as source for multiple reporters stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: You have zero evidence. Oh I must have missed them going for it on 4th down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Oh I must have missed them going for it on 4th down You have zero evidence that McDermott is too involved in the offense. Or telling Dorsey to be conservative. You are just making ***** up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You have zero evidence that McDermott is too involved in the offense. Or telling Dorsey to be conservative. You are just making ***** up. Well excuse me but there was an interview with Dorsey this week where he talked about his involvement. And, another on where McD talks about his role. And, most honest observers have noticed a change in the Bills offensive style. You are just full of yourself as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Well excuse me but there was an interview with Dorsey this week where he talked about his involvement. And, another on where McD talks about his role. And, most honest observers have noticed a change in the Bills offensive style. You are just full of yourself as usual. Nah. I am going on facts you are going on feelings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I would love them if they worked. I feel like every time he calls timeout before a play it gives the opposing coach a chance to out-coach him. Exactly, it just allows the opposing OC to check out of the play. Sean thinks he's micro-managing when in actuality he's helping the other side. So dumb..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Nah. I am going on facts you are going on feelings. The lack of going for it on fourth downs costing the team last night has been a common and accurate discussion point today. All on McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: The lack of going for it on fourth downs costing the team last night has been a common and accurate discussion point today. All on McDermott. I agree. 4th down decisions are on the Head Coach. That hasn't been disputed. It is the bit you just made up that is in dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I don’t get this constant anger. This game was a pretty large step in the right direction. Josh ran, threw to lots of different people, Bass was back on point and what remains of our defense did a good enough job. Everything will never be perfect so you will always have something to complain about if you look hard enough. Doesn’t seem like a good base for a happy life though… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 It's particularly frustrating when he does it before a play and it gets to the refs late, the play plays out for us, it's a positive play, and then it gets negated because we find out he called Timeout before they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I agree. 4th down decisions are on the Head Coach. That hasn't been disputed. It is the bit you just made up that is in dispute. You can become more informed by searching for this weeks interviews with the coach's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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