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Israel and the Slaughter in Gaza


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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I didn’t insult you, I just asked another poster if you were Polish.  That’s neither cool nor uncool, it just is.
 

That was a private conversation! 

It was a private conversation on a message board? No, you are not full of BS, no way :doh:

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17 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

The left supports this 

 

 

Last night, the news was reporting that the women and children in Gaza have by far suffered the most injuries and death from the actions of Israel. No one asks the question of why that might be. Why the discrepancy compared to men? 
 

So either Hamas psychos are surrounding themselves with women and children to maximize their casualties and/or most of the men are underground in the tunnels. 

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1 hour ago, Andy1 said:

Last night, the news was reporting that the women and children in Gaza have by far suffered the most injuries and death from the actions of Israel. No one asks the question of why that might be. Why the discrepancy compared to men? 
 

So either Hamas psychos are surrounding themselves with women and children to maximize their casualties and/or most of the men are underground in the tunnels. 

Or maybe its the indiscriminate bombing campaign of Israel? 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Tuesday warned that Israel was losing international support because of its “indiscriminate bombing” of Gaza, speaking out in unusually strong language just hours before the United Nations demanded a humanitarian cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war.

“Israel’s security can rest on the United States, but right now it has more than the United States. It has the European Union, it has Europe, it has most of the world supporting them,” Biden said to donors during a fundraiser Tuesday.

“They’re starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place,” he said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-israel-hamas-oct-7-44c4229d4c1270d9cfa484b664a22071

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3 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Last night, the news was reporting that the women and children in Gaza have by far suffered the most injuries and death from the actions of Israel. No one asks the question of why that might be. Why the discrepancy compared to men? 
 

So either Hamas psychos are surrounding themselves with women and children to maximize their casualties and/or most of the men are underground in the tunnels. 

Or it's basic statistics.

 

Given any population of people, "women and children" make up about 65-75%. 

 

As a group, they'll account for the most of just about anything from tooth decay to civilian casualties.

 

Hell, reduce it just to "women" and you'll still have a majority.

 

 

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The Deafening Media Silence About Americans Held Hostage By Hamas

Issues & Insights, by The Editorial Board

 

On Monday, the White House held a Hanukkah reception. Among those not invited: American families who have relatives currently being held hostage by Hamas. CNN reported that: “Ruby Chen, whose son Itay is a reservist missing since the militant group’s October 7 attacks on Israel, said a number of the families of American hostages were in Washington, D.C., this week, and had reached out to the White House asking to attend the reception but were not invited. A White House spokesperson declined to comment.”

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2023/12/14/the-deafening-media-silence-about-americans-held-hostage-by-hamas/

 

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Biden now accuses Israel of "indiscriminate bombing."

 

"They’re starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place,” he said."

 

What a senseless statement.

I can't wait until this man is no longer in office.

He claims to support Israel, and makes this idiotic statement, while White House staffers head outside and protest for a ceasefire.

 

It is not clear who is running this.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, sherpa said:

Biden now accuses Israel of "indiscriminate bombing."

 

"They’re starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place,” he said."

 

What a senseless statement.

I can't wait until this man is no longer in office.

He claims to support Israel, and makes this idiotic statement, while White House staffers head outside and protest for a ceasefire.

 

It is not clear who is running this.

 

 

Not only senseless but it sends an ambiguous and confusing message about the US position on the conflict.  Is it simply meant to placate the fringe elements in the party that control the agenda?  Or for some other ears?  Who knows for sure. 

 

And I don't expect the bombing and attacks are indiscriminate but rather based on intelligence and assessments of where the terrorists are staging operations.  But what exactly did the administration think was going to happen as they pushed for billions in unconditional military assistance for Israeli's battle against a large and well armed terrorist group trapped in a confined space with several million civilians?      

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Ten Israeli soldiers aged 19 to 35, including a high-ranking battalion commander, are killed

and three injured in worst loss of life for the IDF in a single incident since Gaza war broke out

by Kamal Sultan

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12858091/israeli-soldiers-killed-gaza-idf-hamas.html

 

 

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This is why we need to release the full nuclear arsenal on Gaza.  Then, when that dump is vaporized, we do the same to Iran.  What a mess.  

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Sullivan’s in Israel to do damage control, clearly. Biden’s false accusation that the IDF has conducted “indiscriminate” bombing angered Benjamin Netanyahu and foreign minister Eli Cohen and produced considerable backlash.

 

The Israelis no doubt didn’t much appreciate getting lectured about military planning from Blinken and Lloyd Austin, two of the moral idiots behind Biden’s Kabul bug-out and abandonment of thousands of Americans to the Taliban.

 

 

The White House seems to be belatedly realizing that they’re losing their influence in Jerusalem with these tactics. John Kirby got sent out to the press to walk back Biden’s campaign-event lies about the IDF before Sullivan’s visit:

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/12/14/israeli-defense-minister-to-biden-aide-well-take-all-the-time-we-need-to-destroy-hamas-n598999
 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:


 

Sullivan’s in Israel to do damage control, clearly. Biden’s false accusation that the IDF has conducted “indiscriminate” bombing angered Benjamin Netanyahu and foreign minister Eli Cohen and produced considerable backlash.

 

The Israelis no doubt didn’t much appreciate getting lectured about military planning from Blinken and Lloyd Austin, two of the moral idiots behind Biden’s Kabul bug-out and abandonment of thousands of Americans to the Taliban.

 

 

The White House seems to be belatedly realizing that they’re losing their influence in Jerusalem with these tactics. John Kirby got sent out to the press to walk back Biden’s campaign-event lies about the IDF before Sullivan’s visit:

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/12/14/israeli-defense-minister-to-biden-aide-well-take-all-the-time-we-need-to-destroy-hamas-n598999
 

 

Why are they wasting their time?   Push the button for Christ's sake.  

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Horrible

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/15/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-palestine-updates/#link-WP5FXZHH2NDYFFD4B6BFE2BLMY

 

Israeli soldiers fighting in the Shejaiya neighborhood east of Gaza City mistakenly shot dead three hostages captured in the Hamas-led attack on Israel on Oct. 7, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement Friday. IDF troops took the hostages for a threat and fired at them, the statement said. Later, “a suspicion arose over the identities of the deceased,” so the bodies were transferred to Israel, where they were confirmed to be Yotam Haim of Kibbutz Kfar Aza, Samer Talalka of Kibbutz Nir Am and a third hostage whose family requested that he not be identified.

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Why did they shoot them? 

Because war is confusing and terrifying. People have to make split second decisions while scared out of their minds and holding loaded weapons.

 

I wasn't there of course, but I think that's a reasonable guess.

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3 minutes ago, yall said:

Because war is confusing and terrifying. People have to make split second decisions while scared out of their minds and holding loaded weapons.

 

I wasn't there of course, but I think that's a reasonable guess.

Or they are just not taking prisoners, another reasonable guess 

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3 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Next time don’t launch a terrorist attack and you wouldn’t have to worry about retaliation 

Netandyahoo let them attack. Israel barely even had protection at the border of a group whose living and dying passion is to kill jews, yet the front door was left wide open. No help for hours as Hamas went on a killing spree. Netandyahoo was too busy finding was to funnel money to Hamas to care 

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5 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:


right it’s Netanyahu’s fault Hamas attacked Israel. That really makes sense

Who left the front door unlocked? You want to give the guy a metal for ignoring an obvious threat? 

 

Is Gaza now Israel's new settlement? Amazing how wars change things, huh? 

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40 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Netandyahoo let them attack. Israel barely even had protection at the border of a group whose living and dying passion is to kill jews, yet the front door was left wide open. No help for hours as Hamas went on a killing spree. Netandyahoo was too busy finding was to funnel money to Hamas to care 

You are grossly, obnoxiously out of your lane here.

You know absolutely nothing about this.

You also know nothing about what these IDF people are against in this disgusting urban warfare scenario where the enemy uses civilians, baits the IDF by using their desire to rescue hostages, often children, as a tactic to ambush them. 

To accuse Netanyahu of "letting them attack" is ignorance beyond measure.

 

You are not impressing a point on anyone.

You are exposing yourself as an idiot with some stupid, ill formed view.

Stop with the idiotic misspelling of the man's name.

It is childish and foolish.

 

The man has served his country for decades in a manner you are seemingly not capable of understanding. 

 

You are an embarrassment. 

 

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48 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:


Gaza chose Hamas terrorists to lead and represent them 

Not true. There is no voting there. But Net-and-yahoo made sure Hamas money 

 

That's a fact 

 

 

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

You are grossly, obnoxiously out of your lane here.

You know absolutely nothing about this.

You also know nothing about what these IDF people are against in this disgusting urban warfare scenario where the enemy uses civilians, baits the IDF by using their desire to rescue hostages, often children, as a tactic to ambush them. 

To accuse Netanyahu of "letting them attack" is ignorance beyond measure.

 

You are not impressing a point on anyone.

You are exposing yourself as an idiot with some stupid, ill formed view.

Stop with the idiotic misspelling of the man's name.

It is childish and foolish.

 

The man has served his country for decades in a manner you are seemingly not capable of understanding. 

 

You are an embarrassment. 

 

So you don't like me, then? Is that true? 🤣

If Israelis were just gunning down surrendering Palestine civilians, it was a smart move by Hamas to send out some hostages to surrender. I bet the IDF will be a little less indiscriminate next time  

 

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18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Not true. There is no voting there. But Net-and-yahoo made sure Hamas money 

 

That's a fact 

 

 

So you don't like me, then? Is that true? 🤣

If Israelis were just gunning down surrendering Palestine civilians, it was a smart move by Hamas to send out some hostages to surrender. I bet the IDF will be a little less indiscriminate next time  

 

 

Liking you has nothing to do with the issue.

I couldn't care less about you.

 

You are grossly ignorant regarding the situation those people are in, yet you comment,  rendering judgement.

 

For your own sake, don't use the phrase "indiscriminate."

 

The knucklehead president used it last week to his regret, as it is nonsense and utter bullsnot.

 

The point is that you are completely incapable of putting yourself in the position those IDF forces are in.

You should recognize that, but you aren't smart enough to.

 

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2 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Liking you has nothing to do with the issue.

I couldn't care less about you.

 

You are grossly ignorant regarding the situation those people are in, yet you comment,  rendering judgement.

 

For your own sake, don't use the phrase "indiscriminate."

 

The knucklehead president used it last week to his regret, as it is nonsense and utter bullsnot.

 

The point is that you are completely incapable of putting yourself in the position those IDF forces are in.

You should recognize that, but you aren't smart enough to.

 

You contradict yourself. Try breathing into a paper bag if you get too excited. 

 

to the point, you can't put yourself in the IDF position either, you idiot. Who do you think you are? I think of you as a 🤡

 

Sherpa the Clown! 🤣

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