Beck Water Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Good points here. A computer is ALWAYS impounded as most people use one to communicate and it's a treasure trove of evidence for many federal crimes, particularly those involving tax, financial crimes, or, well, you know the others. But it doesn't mean its' the others, but Eberflus crying is not great sign. Most people don't do that over hearing so and so is accused of tax fraud or embezzlement, but who knows, perhaps he stole from the Bears? Well, if it's truly health issues, Williams could have just gotten a horrible health diagnosis for himself or a close family member. An empathetic boss might struggle not to tear up for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Years ago, we had site security and a bunch of FBI agents show up "are you (name)?" "yes" "you're under arrest" up against the wall, taken away in handcuffs, computer impounded as evidence, fired from his job. Rumors of horrible doings abounded, but no charges were ever filed and a month or two later (name) was seen going about with his grandkids, acting like any retired person. (He was a gun enthusiast, and involved in all kinds of fring-y bulletin boards, it was just after 9/11, so there may have been something involving arms sales that brought in the FBI) So true, they don't show up to say hello, but they also aren't an infalliable marker for horrid deeds. Matt Eberflus struggling not to cry isn't a good sign though (IF that part is true) When we lived in Florida the FBI raided a beautiful waterfront high rise condo at like 4am. They separated the husband and wife immediately and began interrogating. It turns out a guy living on a boat in the bay in front of them was hooked into their unsecured wi-fi, and he was into very bad things. No, they are NOT infallible, and nobody knows it better than that couple! I can’t imagine how freaked out I’d be initially. For the record, that’s why I deleted that post. I’m surprised you got the quote, but that’s fine. I like to be a wait and see the facts person, but it does not sound good. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: The source claiming the FBI raided Halas Hall has been refuted by Bears spokespeople. If that's the only source for the claim that the FBI raided Williams house, that claim may be questionable. Maybe he is resigning for health reasons - he wasn't at the Tampa game and Eberflus called the defense. So Tillman calling Eberflus and him crying are also rumors? Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I so want to make jokes about Nate Peterman in here, but I feel that it's not the right place or time. Just as well…Peterman is a thoroughly played out topic anyway… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: Not to question your no doubt erudite proclamations, but while one can verify that something actually occurred pretty quickly - it's generally accepted as rather more difficult than that to "verify" something was made up. If some random account posts something that reliable sources have not, that's the first red flag. Then you go from there. Not that difficult, so I'm not sure why you're so riled up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, warrior9 said: So Tillman calling Eberflus and him crying are also rumors? Damn. I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Good points here. A computer is ALWAYS impounded as most people use one to communicate and it's a treasure trove of evidence for many federal crimes, particularly those involving tax, financial crimes, or, well, you know the others. But it doesn't mean its' the others, but Eberflus crying is not great sign. Most people don't do that over hearing so and so is accused of tax fraud or embezzlement, but who knows, perhaps he stole from the Bears? I don't think anyone credible reported Eberflus crying some of this story has been denied by the Bears, the raid on Halas Hall, maybe there is some truth still at the center of it but I wouldn't put it past that account to add that crying description for added drama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Caleb Williams staying in school. There's no way he goes to Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Caleb Williams staying in school. There's no way he goes to Chicago can't blame him. QB purgatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Max Fischer said: If some random account posts something that reliable sources have not, that's the first red flag. Then you go from there. Not that difficult, so I'm not sure why you're so riled up about it. It's not a small point actually. You can discredit a specific source in a fairly straightforward way, but to prove something didn't happen is more involved and time-consuming. That's at the heart of the saying "a lie travels around the world in the time the truth takes to put shoes on", Brandolini's law, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: It's not a small point actually. You can discredit a specific source in a fairly straightforward way, but to prove something didn't happen is more involved and time-consuming. That's at the heart of the saying "a lie travels around the world in the time the truth takes to put shoes on", Brandolini's law, etc. It would have been easier if you just agreed with my original post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I have my popcorn ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Caleb Williams staying in school. There's no way he goes to Chicago He might, but it'll be Arizona or Chicago for the next few years and I'm not sure that there is a good situation to be had. But he is making over 2 million via NIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Reading the article, it seems the initial reports were all a hoax and it's health related issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: can't blame him. QB purgatory. I don't agree with that. Fields is just historicallllyyyyy bad dude. Pace has done a solid job with the team ... he knew that this coming draft was significantly better than the past so he didn't take a QB. He will fire Eberflus, have another solid draft and get his QB (i can't remember if he drafted Fields or not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Probably health issues but this tweet lol https://x.com/drone_jock/status/1704589672763080767?s=20 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, warrior9 said: I don't agree with that. Fields is just historicallllyyyyy bad dude. Pace has done a solid job with the team ... he knew that this coming draft was significantly better than the past so he didn't take a QB. He will fire Eberflus, have another solid draft and get his QB (i can't remember if he drafted Fields or not) If they would stop trying to turn Fields into a pocket passer and just run the snot out of him they might get better results. In retrospect, they should have taken Davis Mills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I read an interesting theory on the Bears message board. They think that Eberflus told him that he was going to call the defensive plays and that he suddenly had health issues to attend to. I think that this is what happened with Frazier, FWIW. BTW, I think the FBI raid stories are all false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I read an interesting theory on the Bears message board. They think that Eberflus told him that he was going to call the defensive plays and that he suddenly had health issues to attend to. I think that this is what happened with Frazier, FWIW. BTW, I think the FBI raid stories are all false. Seems like the FBI raid on Williams was false but they really raided Peterman in an investigation of him defrauding several organizations into thinking he was an NFL quarterback. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 somehow this is Edmunds fault 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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