Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: You would have been if the Bills had someone just making average plays at quarterback. Heck, if the Bills had Wilson the result would have been different tonight. I think the jets would have shut the bills out if there was a Wilson vs Wilson mirror match all game tonight at qb lol we’re dunking on all of Josh’s bad plays tonight and that’s certainly deserved, but josh pulled off some magic on quite a few plays tonight too that led to points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: I'm not sure about that Wilson protected the ball better than Josh. That’s all the Bills needed. ETA - Fair point above. The Bills would have won if they had Josh in the first half and Wilson in the second. Edited September 12, 2023 by UKBillFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: Wilson protected the ball better than Josh. That’s all the Bills needed. That’s all they needed after going up two scores maybe…but they had to go up two scores first lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Curious as to how many fans feel this loss is worse than the Bengals no show to end last season… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: That’s all they needed after going up two scores maybe…but they had to go up two scores first lol Made a correction after reading your original post - fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Nobody is Brady. I would give anything to have Allen as the Jets QB. He had a bad game, it happens. But in the long run you guys will have a better record than the Jets. As a Bills fan, I'm craving a SB appearance at the very least and a SB win. A winning record over the Jets is hardly a successful season. A playoff birth and an early exit is hardly a successful season. That might sound brass to a Jets fan. No offense intended. This team has been primed to represent the AFC for several years now. Only to fall short time after time. Frustration and doubt is mounting as games and years pass. Tonight's game only intensified the failure of this regime. Ground hog day... To put it in proper perspective the Bills Brass went out and purposely made offensive moves. All off season, many have talked about an improved offense. Some indicating it might be the best O in the league. Did you see a dynamic offense? A changed offense? A great oline and dangerous offensive weapons? Besides Diggs this offense is mediocre with a bunch of one offs. All replaceable pieces. It lacks dynamic game changing players. Come playoff time (assuming the Bills make it) teams will double Diggs. Thus far, the Bills have no answer to combat this. To boot the franchise QB Shi! the bed. Gave the game away or the Jets D took it from him. In short, tonight's game was a microcosm of last year's season. All the same issues and weaknesses were present. The only saving factor is it's game one. A long season to improve and figure it out. However, that's putting a lot of faith in a sub par OC and an overated defensive head coach. I guess we will see how it plays out. Edited September 12, 2023 by newcam2012 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, BBFL said: Curious as to how many fans feel this loss is worse than the Bengals no show to end last season… It’d be worse to me if virtually the same exact game didn’t happen vs the jets last season so I’m likely giving the bills more benefit of the doubt than I should 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: You would have been if the Bills had someone just making average plays at quarterback. Heck, if the Bills had Wilson the result would have been different tonight. Kyle Allen would have won the game tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think the jets would have shut the bills out if there was a Wilson vs Wilson mirror match all game tonight at qb lol we’re dunking on all of Josh’s bad plays tonight and that’s certainly deserved, but josh pulled off some magic on quite a few plays tonight too that led to points Disagree. Wilson had a few epic throws and moments himself for being a low end option at QB. Josh is better, should have been better and is expected to be what he’s shown. No excuses for #17. Very few losses have ever been solely on him but this one, unfortunately, was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, NewEra said: He just looks like he has zero trust in the OL and expects them to get beat on every drop back Because they DO get beat on every drop back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Great effort by the Jets 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m on the flip side of this I think trying to coach the risk taker out of him is killing his confidence…that panicked throwaway ish pass to Knox in ot irritated me more than anything all night because he was playing scared and tried to keep the ball away from sauce who was barely a factor on that play. gotta pick yourself up and keep doing what you do in a bad game but josh seemed clearly rattled tonight and it all snowballed Agree with ChuckWagon on this except the 'fireable offence' part. PreSeason JA stated that his game plan was to think before running or gunning. Seems he was only appeasing, not buying in. After an early gaffe they showed McD pointing to his head with the THINK sign.JA doesn't lack confidence, he has too much of it. Too bad the next up is too laughable to put in for even a set of downs, to enforce the concept. Edited September 12, 2023 by DieHardFan Put in wrong name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ticketssince61 said: Because they DO get beat on every drop back There was a report that the Bills OLine only gave up a 26% pressure rate tonight. I know I saw Allen bailing out of clean pockets multiple times. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: Allen lost the game tonight. And it’s more than ok to say that. He said it himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: Great effort by the Jets Absolutely. Feel a few low end teams would have folded after their marquee signing and short term savior only lasted 4 plays before being finished for, at the time, the game. Resultant effort. Whitehead won the game. Josh lost it. As simple as that. Being from Pittsburgh area I’m going to hear it from a few people with ties to Whitehead. If only Robert Foster was still a Bill that regional ties could be cancelled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Newsflash: 13 seconds wasn't Leslie Frazier's fault. After 4 years, the middle of both of our lines still can't do what needs to get done ie. protect our QB and get to the other QB when it counts. Players who came to play: Milano Benford Diggs Felt like most everyone else was just waiting for someone else to make a play. I can't believe how much we paid Dawson Knox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Stopped taking short stuff, running outside and the D was gross/slow a lot of the time. Jets could’ve ran all night long. Coaching, 17/Dorsey should get credit for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, NewEra said: I thought the pass rush was SB caliber without Von Miller. Floyd is a demon out there. Rousseau played very well. I thought our D played great, minus Poyer. Was impressed with Benford. Garrett Wilson played better. He’s a super star. I have hope for the defense. The pass rush was good but they were facing a poor pass blocking team and a back up QB. Also, a bottom tier offensive team. So the jury is out on how good the Bills pass rush is. It is very encouraging though. Hopefully, it's the real deal. It was one of the few bright spots in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, cale said: Newsflash: 13 seconds wasn't Leslie Frazier's fault. After 4 years, the middle of both of our lines still can't do what needs to get done ie. protect our QB and get to the other QB when it counts. Players who came to play: Milano Benford Diggs Felt like most everyone else was just waiting for someone else to make a play. I can't believe how much we paid Dawson Knox. There should be about 10 other guys on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Who missed the tackle on the PR immediately after the punt was fielded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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