Axios: Poll - Democrats proud to be American falls 30% since 2005

[Big Blitz]

To an all time low of 29% today.  
 

And common sense moral values we almost all shared just 20 years ago - gone.  
 

 

Americans are down on morality, family and country
 

Why it matters: Less than 500 days out from an election likely to feature a 2020 rematch few Americans want, extreme national pride is near a historic low.

 

Zoom in: The greatest demographic differentiator for expressions of national pride is party identification, according to Gallup.

 

A majority (60%) of Republicans still claim extreme national pride, but the share has fallen from a near-universal 86% 20 years ago — when patriotism peaked in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

 

The last time a majority of Democrats said they were extremely proud to be an American was in 2013, months into President Obama's second term.

 

Between the lines: American iconography has long been a staple of political campaigns on both sides of the aisle. But for many Democrats, former President Trump's "America First" nationalism gave divisive new meaning to the red, white and blue.

 

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/03/americans-down-on-god-family-country-patriotism-polling

 

 

America First is not divisive.  Trump may be. 
 

But America First is not.  
 

Media - like Axios - want that to be the case.  

 

Congrats China!  
 

 

Bonus!

 

Over 25% of men over 40 - never been married.  Up from SIX PERCENT in 1980.  
 

Less kids.  More abortion.  More feminazis.  More emasculated males especially whites who are directly and indirectly told there is no place for them in society and deliberate sexual confusion and distortion of social norms (biology) especially to our youth - all adds up to a road to self destruction.  And a pathetic miserable country.   
 

 

Being proud of it is toxic after all.  It’s code for ULTRA MAGA!  

[BillStime]

Funny how ditz left this important part of the article out - and it was no accident:

 

Crisis of morality

 

A record high 50% of Americans view the state of morality in the U.S. as "poor" — with the share rising across both major political parties and independents, according to Gallup.

 

Why it matters: Culture war issues and the debate over abortion rights are at the forefront of everyday American politics and the 2024 presidential campaign.

 

New focus on systemic racism after the murder of George Floyd in 2020 — and the subsequent backlash from many Republicans — has helped drive a spike in concerns about racism and discrimination.

 

The so-called "war on woke" — led in large part by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and aggressively promoted by Republicans at the national, state and local levels — has spurred a record number of bills targeting LGBTQ rights in the last few years, according to the ACLU.

[BillsFanNC]

I see it all over my neighborhood.  Many neighbors I know are dems who used to fly the flag no longer do.

 

TDS + falling prey to marxist propaganda can do that to a person.

[Boatdrinks]

Open borders, liberal media, daft ,vapid Gen Zers , anti USA school system , Democrat Party for whom abortion and LGBTQ are a religion… is it any surprise that this is the result? It shouldn’t be , as it is the intended outcome. First step on the road to Marxism. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Too many people buy into the false dichotomy…

 

differences of opinion aren’t considered healthy discourse but instead existential philosophy. 

[Big Blitz]

42 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Funny how ditz left this important part of the article out - and it was no accident:

 

Crisis of morality

 

A record high 50% of Americans view the state of morality in the U.S. as "poor" — with the share rising across both major political parties and independents, according to Gallup.

 

Why it matters: Culture war issues and the debate over abortion rights are at the forefront of everyday American politics and the 2024 presidential campaign.

 

New focus on systemic racism after the murder of George Floyd in 2020 — and the subsequent backlash from many Republicans — has helped drive a spike in concerns about racism and discrimination.

 

The so-called "war on woke" — led in large part by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and aggressively promoted by Republicans at the national, state and local levels — has spurred a record number of bills targeting LGBTQ rights in the last few years, according to the ACLU.

 

 

Lol low info Bill - the decline in morality (Americans that see it as a poor) driven by Republicans is almost exclusively due to Alphabet Extremist policies gone wild.  
 

Axios wants to frame bills passed in states by “anti woke” (anti communist) leaders as “anti” is of course, absurd.  Unless you support pornography in elementary schools disguised as trans story hour.  
 

I found this part of the story the least significant.  As important as it is.  
 

 

I’m not sure what how you’d like to analyze that part of the poll or why you’d suggest I’m “leaving it out.”  There are 8 other threads on the Flag mafia.  
 

 

Democrats are not proud of this country unless they’re in power - the exception under Biden is largely due to since 2020, they’ve been inundating the country, schools, and Hollywood with nothing but anti American communist Maoist garbage.   

[B-Man]

 

 

[BillStime]

MAGA pride:

 

Hard to be proud of a country when the GQP prioritizes guns over people.

 

[BillStime]

Hard to be proud of a country where far right MAGA activist Supreme Court justices codify discrimination and hate into law.
 

Funny how these MAGA nutters can’t see how their policies and leaders are contributing the morale decline in this country.

 

These idiots want nothing but hate and division.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

These idiots want nothing but hate and division.

 

 

 

 

Hate is common everywhere.  Hate is easy.  

 

Which side is more likely to forgive or look past any prior meaningless perhaps texts or jokes from say 10 years ago?   
 

Libs are incapable.  They will eat their own if it means preserving their virtue signaling religion of wokeism.  And if possible they will erase or cancel you.  You have a moron right here in Bill that wants the Catholic Church to cease and desist.  
 

But sure post all your pics of 300 protesters that were escorted in to the Capital.    
 

No, conservatives boycotting Bud Light is not the same as creating a hostage situation by forcing one of your relief pitchers to apologize for re tweeting something about Target’s grooming section.  

 

 

Nationalism or populism is what these morons think is going to tear apart a country.  
 

In Europe they’ve been saying this since Brexit.  
 

Look at all those MAGA nutters burning France today ……………. 

 

[BillStime]

👆🤡

 

Look at every group these freaks support.

 

You have @Big Blitzprotecting and sponsoring a global pedo network - aka - the Catholic Church and then Bonnie defending every racist and far right group from Moms of Hitler to Unite the Right.

 

MAGA isn’t meant to bring America together - it’s meant to unite white supremacists, bigots, homophobes and misogynists.

That’s your vision for Make America Great Again.

 

Just look at every thread started by Ditz and Karen Psyop.

 

These people hate themselves so much it oozes out of them every day here.

 

And they wonder why half the country can’t stand them and what they represent.

 

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

👆🤡

 

Look at every group these freaks support.

 

You have @Big Blitzprotecting and sponsoring a global pedo network - aka - the Catholic Church and then Bonnie defending every racist and far right group from Moms of Hitler to Unite the Right.

 

MAGA isn’t meant to bring America together - it’s meant to unite white supremacists, bigots, homophobes and misogynists.

That’s your vision for Make America Great Again.

 

Just look at every thread started by Ditz and Karen Psyop.

 

These people hate themselves so much it oozes out of them every day here.

 

And they wonder why half the country can’t stand them and what they represent.

 

 

You’re an absolute buffoon.  
 

No political is void of any of those types of people.  NONE.  
 

And perfect unity is impossible - you can cite a problem with literally everyone and spin it as hate.  
 

And - show me the poll where over half the country wants the book “I’m Jack but maybe I’m Jane” in their kids 3rd grade classroom.  
 

 

Every Democrat policy is freaking grounded in ACTUAL DIVISION 

 

Affirmative action 

Open Borders for states that aren’t budgeted to handle the incompetence 

Identity politics 

Anti Religion - you know, this country was only founded on your freedom to freely worship it - you idiots will try to bring “no prayer” zones here to if you could.  Bake that cake!

[BillStime]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

You’re an absolute buffoon.  

And you support a global pedo network.

 

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

No political is void of any of those types of people.  NONE.  
 

And perfect unity is impossible - you can cite a problem with literally everyone and spin it as hate.  

MAGA

 

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

And - show me the poll where over half the country wants the book “I’m Jack but maybe I’m Jane” in their kids 3rd grade classroom.  

Hoax

 

13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Every Democrat policy is freaking grounded in ACTUAL DIVISION 

 

Affirmative action 

Open Borders for states that aren’t budgeted to handle the incompetence 

Identity politics 

Hoax - go write another law that states what people can and cannot do.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

And you support a global pedo network.

 

MAGA

 

Hoax

 

Hoax - go write another law that states what people can and cannot do.

 

 

Umm…….that’s exactly what laws are.  
 

You spent all week trashing the court over the Affirmative action and religious freedom rulings. 

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Less kids.  More abortion.  More feminazis.  More emasculated males especially whites who are directly and indirectly told there is no place for them in society and deliberate sexual confusion and distortion of social norms (biology) especially to our youth - all adds up to a road to self destruction.  And a pathetic miserable country.

I dunno, maybe its just me, but you don't exactly sound proud to be an American yourself ...

[The Frankish Reich]

Meanwhile ... I'm more on board with this optimistic, pro-America sentiment:

 

Every generation launches a new competitor to America and the people who don’t like capitalism and America’s individualist, free market economy trumpet that now the American way is being left in the dust. In the progressive era it was the Germans (how did that work out?), then it was the Russians (remember Sputnik?), then it was the Japanese (buying up Rockefeller center! the horror!), then it was the Chinese (look at those high speed rail lines!). My message to Americans is to double down on America. Double down on immigration, entrepreneurship, innovation, building for tomorrow, free markets, free speech and individualism and America will take all new competitors as it has taken all comers in the past. The world should be more like America not the other way around.

 

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/07/happy-july-4th.html

 

Implicit in Make America Great Again is exactly what Big Blitz said -- the idea that America today is horrible, sucks big time, has no future. I guess I disagree. We've got problems, but in many respects no other country can compete.

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

that’s exactly what laws are.  

Have you noticed that some of those laws - in red states - are being tossed out?

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Over 25% of men over 40 - never been married.  Up from SIX PERCENT in 1980.

Does that adjust for my 2 marriages by the age of 40?

[BillsFanNC]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

I don't understand why certain posters here think that a dozen or more states are run by commies, yet they think that the American flag, representing the unity of the 50 states, should be celebrated. Some of those posters probably favor reducing the number of stars on the flag to the 30 red states only.

[JaCrispy]

America is a nation in decay…

[Tommy Callahan]

Seems like that was the goal of the 1619 and crt.  

 

Remember when the left was anti establishment, anti authoritarian state. 

 

Now they beg for an all encompassing super state with total control while attacking this country and the individual rights (government restrictions) built into the constitution at every turn. 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Catholic Church to cease and desist.  

One would think you would, too

 

But they have you obsessed with the “alphabet community” like a good simp.

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

Seems like that was the goal of the 1619 and crt.  

 

Remember when the left was anti establishment, anti authoritarian state. 

 

Now they beg for an all encompassing super state with total control while attacking this country and the individual rights (government restrictions) built into the constitution at every turn. 

 

 

 

 

Awe that’s so cute… the 45+ year old boogeyman - CRT - lolz.

 

We should also forget about the activist judges on the Supreme Court codifying hate into law over a completely made up story.

 

Now run along now and go ban abortion, contraception, history, books, LGTBQ, women and voting rights.

 

You got this bro! 
 

jfc idiots 

[Big Blitz]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

One would think you would, too

 

But they have you obsessed with the “alphabet community” like a good simp.

 

Hey - where is your post of kids in the thread with the Trans women’s mass shooting in Philly?  

 

Edited July 5, 2023 by Big Blitz

[BillStime]

25 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Hey - where is your post of kids in the thread with the Trans women’s mass shooting in Philly?  

 

You already know my take on guns - no one needs access to AR15 type guns.

 

I don’t care who you are - there is no need.

 

Now that you’re done deflecting - back to your financial support of that pedo ring. 
 

How do you square that? 
 

 

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

You already know my take on guns - no one needs access to AR15 type guns.

 

I don’t care who you are - there is no need.

 

Now that you’re done deflecting - back to your financial support of that pedo ring. 
 

How do you square that? 
 

 

 

 

I mean it’s in the Bible - both Old and New Testament but you’re a low info moron that doesn’t have an understanding of these things 

 

The devil has and will continue to attack the church.  
 

 

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons (1 Timothy 4:1).

 

 

“It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works” (2 Corinthians 11:15).

 

 

….the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom; the weeds are the children of the evil one, and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil; the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels (Matthew 13:38,39).

[BillStime]

35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I mean it’s in the Bible - both Old and New Testament but you’re a low info moron that doesn’t have an understanding of these things 

 

The devil has and will continue to attack the church.  
 

 

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons (1 Timothy 4:1).

 

 

“It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works” (2 Corinthians 11:15).

 

 

….the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom; the weeds are the children of the evil one, and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil; the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels (Matthew 13:38,39).

Yeah and?

[HomeskillitMoorman]

49 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I mean it’s in the Bible - both Old and New Testament but you’re a low info moron that doesn’t have an understanding of these things 

 

The devil has and will continue to attack the church.  
 

 

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons (1 Timothy 4:1).

 

 

“It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works” (2 Corinthians 11:15).

 

 

….the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom; the weeds are the children of the evil one, and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil; the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels (Matthew 13:38,39).

 

Just asking...but do you find it hypocritical at all that on one hand you lecture people for not being based in facts while you reference a book of fairy tales?

[TSOL]

I'm proud to be America, but the political end of the country is a scam. 

The Ukraine war is a scam

The pandemic was a scam

Trump was a scam

And Obama was a scam

 And it goes back further. 

 

Social media is being used as a tool to uproot is, divide us, radicalize us... We're strong as a country of course, but too many people are falling into the trap. 

It's bothersome. 

Hopefully things straighten out. 

[Unforgiven]

  Democrats are trash. They hate themselves, they hate others not like them, they try and cram

***** down peoples throat. They are liars, criminals, side with criminals, they are racists...they despise children, religion,

white people. They voted for Joe Biden. 

 

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Just asking...but do you find it hypocritical at all that on one hand you lecture people for not being based in facts while you reference a book of fairy tales?

 

 

Gee, I wonder what it's like being 'smarter' than the billions of people who believe in God.

 

 

but thats probably not it.

 

You're probably just an ass looking for attention.

 

So here you go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

.

Edited July 5, 2023 by B-Man

[BillStime]

39 minutes ago, B-Man said:

who believe in God.

But which God? It it the approved God?

 

39 minutes ago, B-Man said:

You're probably just an ass looking for attention.

Says the guy who posts the same garbage on twobillsdrive and billsfans.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

7 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

America is a nation in decay…

 

That’s what we’re trying to stop - is it too far gone is the question.  
 

Both parties suck.  But only one side is actually fighting for something.  
 

The left is just reckless and out of control - a new letter every day.  Supporting what they think are politically expedient rights but refuse to question anything that makes Team Democrat look bad.  
 

Trump exposed all of them.  Social media showed them their mainstream media thought/narrative control days were over.  
 

That must have been so terrifying for them.  

 

And everything since has been a war on a guy and his supporters that said “America First.”  
 

 

We can argue all day about taxes and spending - man wouldn’t that be nice but…..no one cares - none of this matters if the fabric of the culture and the freedoms at its core are gone.  
 

Think about what you’ve heard the Left advocate for in just the last 3 years:

 

1.  Shutdown the planet no questions asked

2. Get this vaccine or you won’t go back to work - still no questions asked 

3. Become even bigger hypocrites then they’ve ever been when they sided with “correct” protesters.  
4. censoring anyone that spoke out about lockdowns, masks, and vaccines 

5. That there are 72 genders.  That elementary school kids should have access to trans story hour and porn in their libraries -

6.  And they should be able to be transitioned regardless what mom and dad say - and speaking of genders:

 

 

7. Ban all guns - they’ve said it

8. Elon Musk became evil - because he knew Twitter became government run censorship 

9. That the Catholic Church should shut down - see Bill Stime - he’s not alone to them religion is just a fairy tale.  
 

AND: 

 

 

 

 

 

But sure they love this country.  
 

*Here is where low Info Bill posts Jan 6 pics - btw I love that they leave out “2021” to avoid the context and history of the prior 10 month self inflicted nightmare this country succumbed to.  Those people at the capital were the coup, in no way whatsoever was that we let China tell us what to do the actual coup*

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Doc Brown]

Not really surprising as in simple terms with a football example.... Republicans want to conserve the country they have (proud of the job McDermott has done and he should stay the course) while Democrats want to make changes to improve it (McDermott needs to improve in the playoffs to win the Super Bowl or he should be fired).  Independents don't feel represented and are conflicted (Pegula should only fire McDermott if there's a proven viable replacement).  It will ebb and flow with the societal conditions at the time (we are wasting Allen in his prime).  

Edited July 6, 2023 by Doc Brown

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

To an all time low of 29% today.  
 

And common sense moral values we almost all shared just 20 years ago - gone.  
 

 

Americans are down on morality, family and country
 

Why it matters: Less than 500 days out from an election likely to feature a 2020 rematch few Americans want, extreme national pride is near a historic low.

 

Zoom in: The greatest demographic differentiator for expressions of national pride is party identification, according to Gallup.

 

A majority (60%) of Republicans still claim extreme national pride, but the share has fallen from a near-universal 86% 20 years ago — when patriotism peaked in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

 

The last time a majority of Democrats said they were extremely proud to be an American was in 2013, months into President Obama's second term.

 

Between the lines: American iconography has long been a staple of political campaigns on both sides of the aisle. But for many Democrats, former President Trump's "America First" nationalism gave divisive new meaning to the red, white and blue.

 

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/03/americans-down-on-god-family-country-patriotism-polling

 

 

America First is not divisive.  Trump may be. 
 

But America First is not.  
 

Media - like Axios - want that to be the case.  

 

Congrats China!  
 

 

Bonus!

 

Over 25% of men over 40 - never been married.  Up from SIX PERCENT in 1980.  
 

Less kids.  More abortion.  More feminazis.  More emasculated males especially whites who are directly and indirectly told there is no place for them in society and deliberate sexual confusion and distortion of social norms (biology) especially to our youth - all adds up to a road to self destruction.  And a pathetic miserable country.   
 

 

Being proud of it is toxic after all.  It’s code for ULTRA MAGA!  

Major misinterpretation, of data, iDude  We';re fearful that the minority MAGA's will revolt.  In fact. we're positive that they're revolting.

 

Is that trolling?  sorry, it's how I feel.  Rattle traps have always worked well for me.  What would Jack Kemp say?  Tim Russert?  His dad?

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Not really surprising as in simple terms with a football example.... Republicans want to conserve the country they have (proud of the job McDermott has done and he should stay the course) while Democrats want to make changes to improve it (McDermott needs to improve in the playoffs to win the Super Bowl or he should be fired).  Independents don't feel represented and are conflicted (Pegula should only fire McDermott if there's a proven viable replacement).  It will ebb and flow with the societal conditions at the time (we are wasting Allen in his prime).  

McDermott does not equal trump.  buzzer..  

But Allen can equal JFK n a football sense.  Go Bills!

Edited July 6, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Buffarukus]

 

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Not really surprising as in simple terms with a football example.... Republicans want to conserve the country they have (proud of the job McDermott has done and he should stay the course) while Democrats want to make changes to improve it (McDermott needs to improve in the playoffs to win the Super Bowl or he should be fired).  Independents don't feel represented and are conflicted (Pegula should only fire McDermott if there's a proven viable replacement).  It will ebb and flow with the societal conditions at the time (we are wasting Allen in his prime).  

 

pretty simplistic but if we remain mostly vague and scratch the outer surface can we get a clearer picture?

 

if we look at the factions each side considers extreme. optics alone.

 

one side is dressed head to toe in american flags and red ballcaps. the other is dressed head to toe in black with masks and umbrellas to cover their identities. their only symbolism seems to be rainbow flags now that were switched from blm flags. 

 

with no other context, what does that say? it says to me one believes they are fighting for the country while the other is fighting for causes that change dep on changing cultural social trends. 

 

if we look at policies in states. one side is seeing a mass influx of people and economic growth while the other is seeing population fleeing and economic decay as major legacy chains are announcing mass closings across them?

 

things can obviously be broken down a ton but from a birds eye view things like this are a indicator of what is going on.

 

if we talk about fundamentals of party. one is fighting for what they always have (whats really changed?). but the other. well, they are flipping alot of their CORE beliefs 180 to fight AGAINST those who they agreed with just a decade ago. seeing people as skin color and not a individuals being a major one. freedom of speech regardless if its agreeable. only one side looks at anyone who still believes in its past longstanding principals as a extremist and part of the opposing side now. 

 

I may have blindspots but the change i see from the right is actually in a more progressive way. trump acknowledged same sex marriage. stance on censorship is far more laxed now that they have largely been targets of it. unquestionable allegiance to US power war/fbi/cia ect.ect. these were leftist positions my entire life and now determine i am far right.

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Buffarukus

[Joe Ferguson forever]

31 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

one side is dressed head to toe in american flags and red ballcaps. the other is dressed head to toe in black with masks and umbrellas to cover their identities. their only symbolism seems to be rainbow flags now that were switched from blm flags. 

dualism...not so simple.  We are an heterogenous population, which you all seem to deny.  Don't wear a mask.  Umbrellas when it rains not when flaming crosses burn..Neil Young nwas right.

Edited July 6, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

Do something heterosexual: If you're a man and you have a wife and you like each other, you're pretty much a Q'ANON stooge. Cis love is fascist love, you pig.

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Major misinterpretation, of data, iDude  We';re fearful that the minority MAGA's will revolt.  

 

 

No you’re not.  

 

 

5 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

 

In fact. we're positive that they're revolting.

 

 

 

Where?