Demongyz Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I watched lots of this happen that day on c-span so it's not news to me. Other footage has existed on youtube too. There were good people and bad people. The narrative has always been a lie. This was a riot, not the near overthrow of the US Government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: see the twitter files thread. You have no issues with how Twitter was operated prior to the Musk Era? Really? 3 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Fully aware that both sides are manipulative. But I almost always agree more with one sides goals than the others If you included the word "stated" in regards to goals, I could understand that. Not agree, but understand. Because at the EOD they are all @#$%ing us, but the Ds tell you that you are pretty first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Demongyz said: I watched lots of this happen that day on c-span so it's not news to me. Other footage has existed on youtube too. There were good people and bad people. The narrative has always been a lie. This was a riot, not the near overthrow of the US Government. How this isn’t apparent to those who watch CNN/MSNBC/Colbert is beyond me. These are the same people who were brainwashed about the pandemic. Same people who still believe Russiagate. Yet they truly believe that they’re intellectually superior to die hard MAGA types.. They are exactly the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah, it does. Sometimes people do stupid ***** all on their own. Or, say, at the urging of some guy saying it for 2 days and actually being there when the violence starts. Defending the indefensible Doc. The ultimate job of a prez is to defend the constitution, promote truth, use establish legal process and ensure the people of the USA remain free. The selfish prick treated the citizens as dumb, violated law and encouraged a very tiny minority to change the rights of the majority. Over & out! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, B-Man said: JOHN HINDERAKER: Who’s Deceptive? Tucker Carlson launched Round Two of the January 6 tapes last night. Betsy Stauffer is working on a longer post on the latest revelations, along with the crazed (but revealing) calls for censorship from the likes of Chuck Schumer. For the moment, I just want to note one point. Democrats have voiced a faux concern that there might be something suspicious about Carlson’s editing of the clips he shows on his program. Of course, there is no evidence of that. On the contrary, it looks as though the people who have deceptively edited January 6 footage are the Democrats, through their risible “January 6 Committee.” . . . The Democrats’ fake investigation of the January 6 demonstration has been shot through with dishonesty from the beginning. The master deception, fueled by selective release of video clips while barring public access to the rest, was the claim that the protest constituted a “violent insurrection,” despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of protesters, including those who were allowed into the Capitol, were entirely peaceful, despite the fact that not a single one of the alleged insurrectionists remembered to bring a firearm, and despite the fact that there is no conceivable way the “insurrectionists” could have overthrown the government, no matter how long they milled around the Capitol building. The whole “January 6” narrative is a hoax and a fraud. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/03/whos-deceptive.php Who the hell are these opinion writers. I could just as soon find some hiker off the trail and ask him to write a piece and it would be better. 37 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yet they truly believe that they’re intellectually superior to die hard MAGA types.. They are exactly the same. Yes, I bought 3 My Pillow II's last night. I'm planning on taking one apart to break the code of the magic cooling fiber. It was enlightening to watch the ads last night on Fox. When I watch PBS Newshour they're usually advertising Alaskan or Scandanavian cruises. I hate to be manipulated like that. All part of the culture wars, I suppose. Edited March 8, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: You have no issues with how Twitter was operated prior to the Musk Era? Really? If you included the word "stated" in regards to goals, I could understand that. Not agree, but understand. Because at the EOD they are all @#$%ing us, but the Ds tell you that you are pretty first. I have more issues with Twitter now. Don't need to be told I'm pretty but rather be $%^&*&@# by AOC than MTG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Who the hell are these opinion writers. I could just as soon find some hiker off the trail and ask him to write a piece and it would be better. Just so long as it’s not a trail that you frequent. Those are loaded with NAZIS. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Demongyz said: This was a riot, not the near overthrow of the US Government. It was a riot. That was the predominant nature of the January 6 activity at the Capitol. But there was a faction that was more than what the term “rioter” implies. That faction wanted to shut down the lawful operation of the government in order to buy time to coerce state legislators (and, in turn, Mike Pence) to certify false slates of electors, and then to cynically claim that no one has a majority and the House delegations — in which Republicans had the majority of the states — must now decide who will be President. It’s right there in the Eastman memo. It’s not like anyone’s hiding it. Riot + Immediate Political Purpose = Insurrection? I’ve never liked that term (insurrection) but there’s a good argument that that’s exactly what it was. In other words, not everyone was just breaking things as some kind of expression of dissatisfaction with the process in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It was a riot. That was the predominant nature of the January 6 activity at the Capitol. But there was a faction that was more than what the term “rioter” implies. That faction wanted to shut down the lawful operation of the government in order to buy time to coerce state legislators (and, in turn, Mike Pence) to certify false slates of electors, and then to cynically claim that no one has a majority and the House delegations — in which Republicans had the majority of the states — must now decide who will be President. It’s right there in the Eastman memo. It’s not like anyone’s hiding it. Riot + Immediate Political Purpose = Insurrection? I’ve never liked that term (insurrection) but there’s a good argument that that’s exactly what it was. In other words, not everyone was just breaking things as some kind of expression of dissatisfaction with the process in general. Yes, and the gallows out front that was 4 feet tall was to hang Mike Pence. I'm not disputing that there were some idiots who thought they could break in and change the votes somehow, there are dumb people everywhere, but it was a riot and that's it. Not the worst thing to happen to the US since the Civil War. The talking points on this has been overblown for 2 years, and nothing Tucker does will change that. They will continue to spew the lies and the people who believe them will continue to do so. I don't like Tucker trying to classify it as mostly peaceful chaos, but I have seen people waived in by the police, walking around taking pictures of the statues and so on. Those people should not be charged with anything, never should have been arrested, and should not be counted with the filth that broke down doors, assaulted police and so on. As for whether Nancy Pelosi should be investigated for not allowing more protection. I guess she felt the National Guard would have sided with Trump and assisted in the coup, at least, that is the only reason they should not have been called up that day that doesn't put this whole ordeal on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Demongyz said: Yes, and the gallows out front that was 4 feet tall was to hang Mike Pence. I'm not disputing that there were some idiots who thought they could break in and change the votes somehow, there are dumb people everywhere, but it was a riot and that's it. Not the worst thing to happen to the US since the Civil War. The talking points on this has been overblown for 2 years, and nothing Tucker does will change that. They will continue to spew the lies and the people who believe them will continue to do so. I don't like Tucker trying to classify it as mostly peaceful chaos, but I have seen people waived in by the police, walking around taking pictures of the statues and so on. Those people should not be charged with anything, never should have been arrested, and should not be counted with the filth that broke down doors, assaulted police and so on. As for whether Nancy Pelosi should be investigated for not allowing more protection. I guess she felt the National Guard would have sided with Trump and assisted in the coup, at least, that is the only reason they should not have been called up that day that doesn't put this whole ordeal on her. Regardless of what they say on Fox, she does not have the power to unilaterally demand National Guard actions. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542 "The decision on whether to call National Guard troops to the Capitol is made by what is known as the Capitol Police Board, which is made up of the House Sergeant at Arms, the Senate Sergeant at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The board decided not to call the guard ahead of the insurrection but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun, and the troops arrived several hours later. The House Sergeant at Arms reports to Pelosi and the Senate Sergeant at Arms reported to McConnell, a Republican who was then Senate Majority Leader. There is no evidence that either directed the security officials not to call the guard beforehand, and Hammill said after the insurrection that Pelosi was never informed of such a request." Some moron guest on Hannity explained it completely incorrectly last pm. Edited March 8, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I have more issues with Twitter now. Don't need to be told I'm pretty but rather be $%^&*&@# by AOC than MTG. What are your issues with Twitter now that Musk is in charge? Keeping up with the metaphor, both are catfish held out by there respective parties to distract us from the grease they are applying from to our flanks. Neither are really smart enough to do much damage beyond distraction, but be careful to turn around once in awhile lest Schumer and McConnell sneak up behind you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: What are your issues with Twitter now that Musk is in charge? Keeping up with the metaphor, both are catfish held out by there respective parties to distract us from the grease they are applying from to our flanks. Neither are really smart enough to do much damage beyond distraction, but be careful to turn around once in awhile lest Schumer and McConnell sneak up behind you! I would be most concerned with Lindsey Graham. AOC strikes my as very sharp and very &^#$able. https://www.axios.com/2022/11/12/elon-musk-twitter-racist-tweets-data 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Regardless of what they say on Fox, she does not have the power to unilaterally demand National Guard actions. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542 "The decision on whether to call National Guard troops to the Capitol is made by what is known as the Capitol Police Board, which is made up of the House Sergeant at Arms, the Senate Sergeant at Arms and the Architect of the Capitol. The board decided not to call the guard ahead of the insurrection but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun, and the troops arrived several hours later. The House Sergeant at Arms reports to Pelosi and the Senate Sergeant at Arms reported to McConnell, a Republican who was then Senate Majority Leader. There is no evidence that either directed the security officials not to call the guard beforehand, and Hammill said after the insurrection that Pelosi was never informed of such a request." Some moron guest on Hannity explained it completely incorrectly last pm. I don't watch that buffoon, but yeah, She and McConnel could have called for them and did not. I'm fine with investigating him as well. I mean, why did the 1/6 committee not investigate anything other than Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Just now, Demongyz said: I don't watch that buffoon, but yeah, She and McConnel could have called for them and did not. I'm fine with investigating him as well. I mean, why did the 1/6 committee not investigate anything other than Trump? No they couldn't. Read my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: No they couldn't. Read my post. If I order people who work for me to do something, they have to do it. They didn't order them to do so, they figured all would be fine. They can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I would be most concerned with Lindsey Graham. AOC strikes my as very sharp and very &^#$able. https://www.axios.com/2022/11/12/elon-musk-twitter-racist-tweets-data So you don't prefer your racists out in the open? I think the only thing sharp about AOC are her elbows, knees and sense of ambition. She's an opportunistic dimwit, imo. But you do you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Keep it up! Keep what up? The TRUTH? Of course - always. Don’t blame your bad choices on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: Defending the indefensible Doc. The ultimate job of a prez is to defend the constitution, promote truth, use establish legal process and ensure the people of the USA remain free. The selfish prick treated the citizens as dumb, violated law and encouraged a very tiny minority to change the rights of the majority. Over & out! How about we hold every pol that has a certain position responsible for the actions of their followers who do criminal things, even if they don't actually tell them to do such things and/or don't tell them to stop, shall we? So then the Summer of 2020 was all on the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc said: How about we hold every pol that has a certain position responsible for the actions of their followers who do criminal things, even if they don't actually tell them to do such things and/or don't tell them to stop, shall we? So then the Summer of 2020 was all on the Dems. If you drive your car 40mph over the speed limit, crash into another car killing the other driver, it does not make you less guilty because your neighbor did the same thing at 45mph over the speed limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Doc said: How about we hold every pol that has a certain position responsible for the actions of their followers who do criminal things, even if they don't actually tell them to do such things and/or don't tell them to stop, shall we? So then the Summer of 2020 was all on the Dems. All in one clip. Pols and celebrities asking citizens for uprising, unrest, punching the POTUS in the face, taking out the POTUS, putting a bullet in him, blowing up the white house....etc. But that's different. Then democrat pols using the word "fight" over and over and over and over... But that's different too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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