Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Jets just had two rookies named DROY and OROY. Their DL is great. I'd take Moseley over Edmunds. Dawkins and Morse are probably the best two OL of both teams but after that the rest are not that great. Knox is probably the best TE. Jets are younger at some key positions as well. Cap space is interesting. Despite Wilson on a rookie deal they don't have much cap to work with. That may make a move for a veteran QB hard to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 If the Jets had a quarterback comparable to Allen they're the better roster. Like their defense better. Actually Miami is moving up on us in my opinion. This is becoming a pretty strong division. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 as of right now for 2023 jets do, and it's not close. the important thing to realize, and what will make beane a zero or a hero in the next 12 months, is that you can re set an nfl roster pretty quickly, you just have to get multiple hits in FA and the draft. d'quan and miller along w phillips and lawson were net net not expensive (miller is 17 a year for 3, but he's a monster, the rest were cheap) additions and they upgraded higher paid guys we sent packing the prior year. we need that at OL and WR, and to find some gems in the draft. i think gunner bill pointed out that kc reset their whole flippin team in 2 years, we can do the same. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Jets. 34 minutes ago, Radar said: If the Jets had a quarterback comparable to Allen they're the better roster. Like their defense better. Actually Miami is moving up on us in my opinion. This is becoming a pretty strong division. Jets and Dolphins had many high draft picks recently. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 You said it though they don’t have a qb weve had some great rosters and no qb…didn’t sniff the playoffs the jets and dolphins will blow it like they always do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The Bills might not even be favorites to win the AFC east division. Miami and the Jets have closed the gap. Might even be better. Allen is the big difference that still gives a slight edge to the Bills 2 5 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, colin said: as of right now for 2023 jets do, and it's not close. the important thing to realize, and what will make beane a zero or a hero in the next 12 months, is that you can re set an nfl roster pretty quickly, you just have to get multiple hits in FA and the draft. d'quan and miller along w phillips and lawson were net net not expensive (miller is 17 a year for 3, but he's a monster, the rest were cheap) additions and they upgraded higher paid guys we sent packing the prior year. we need that at OL and WR, and to find some gems in the draft. i think gunner bill pointed out that kc reset their whole flippin team in 2 years, we can do the same. “a zero to a hero” ”reset the whole team” Are you talking about the Bills or the Texans? Or the Jets? This board has lost its mind. Im out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobobonators said: “a zero to a hero” ”reset the whole team” Are you talking about the Bills or the Texans? Or the Jets? This board has lost its mind. Im out. oh no bobobonators, don't leave us! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 They will get a Qb in the off-season then we die 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: The Bills might not even be favorites to win the AFC east division. Miami and the Jets have closed the gap. Might even be better. Allen is the big difference that still gives a slight edge to the Bills The bills are currently second in odds to win the Superbowl next year. Way ahead of anyone else in the AFCE. And they will be heavy favorites to win the division. You have no idea what you're talking about. How much money you gonna put on the other teams? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 That's not how the NFL works. It's who's got a franchise QB and everything else is secondary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: That's not how the NFL works. It's who's got a franchise QB and everything else is secondary. For the regular season but in the playoffs the "everything else" is holding the Bills back. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: The Bills might not even be favorites to win the AFC east division. Miami and the Jets have closed the gap. Might even be better. Allen is the big difference that still gives a slight edge to the Bills They closed the gap? NE was closer in 2021. Slight edge lol? Miami was the closest this year 4.5 games back.😂 1 minute ago, Gregg said: For the regular season but in the playoffs the "everything else" is holding the Bills back. That's not what this thread is about. Why do you feel it's necessary to keep regurgitating the same thing over and over again? Pretty sure by now everyone knows what your thoughts are on the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I think it is the Bills but I think it is close. I look at it this way, if you put together a composite starting 21 (excluding QBs) what does it look like? To me: Offense: QB - excluded RB - Breece Hall (NYJ) TE - Dawson Knox (BUF) WR1 - Stefon Diggs (BUF) WR2 - Garrett Wilson (NYJ) WR3 - Gabriel Davis (BUF) LT - Dion Dawkins (BUF) LG - Alijah Vera-Tucker (NYJ) C - Mitch Morse (BUF) RG - Laken Tomlinson (NYJ) RT - Spencer Brown (BUF) Defense: DE - Von Miller (BUF) 1T - Daquon Jones (BUF) 3T - Quinnen Williams (NYJ) DE - Greg Rousseau (BUF) MLB - Tremaine Edmunds (BUF) WLB - Matt Milano (BUF) SLB/Nickel - Taron Johnson (BUF) CB - Sauce Gardner (NYJ) S - Jordan Poyer (BUF) S - Micah Hyde (BUF) CB - DJ Reed (NYJ) Obviously that includes some close calls and a couple of the Bills I have included - Edmunds and Poyer - are impending free agents. I do think it is close and from a Jets perspective you look at the average age of the 7 Jets I have included and you feel good about where you are moving forward. If they can bring in a solid vet Quarterback they are without doubt a playoff team to my mind and they are definitely closing the gap fast but overall I still feel the Bills have a roster edge... it is just that a lot of our guys are older and a lot of theirs are younger that makes you feel like they are a rising team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: They closed the gap? NE was closer in 2021. Slight edge lol? Miami was the closest this year 4.5 games back.😂 That's not what this thread is about. Why do you feel it's necessary to keep regurgitating the same thing over and over again? Pretty sure by now everyone knows what your thoughts are on the playoffs. Ok the regular season then going forward. Right now, it's hard to answer until we go thru FA and the draft. But the Fins and Jets have closed the gap. Allen is the best QB in the division, but I am not sure the Bills have the best roster. The Bills are the favorite to win the division but if they don't, I wouldn't be surprised. Again, this is my answer now. That may change after the offseason moves are made by all 4 teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The Bills and it's not close. The Bills are a top 5 team in the NFL. The Jets are not even top 10. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I'll take our Qb. Ill take their everything else. Miami is right there too. I really don't think there is a clear "better team". Just a clear better QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, MJS said: The Bills and it's not close. The Bills are a top 5 team in the NFL. The Jets are not even top 10. The Jets won 7 games last year with White, Wilson, Flacco as their QB. They get a halfway decent QB then they will be trouble. The Bills have a great QB but the roster as a whole is overrated. IMHO. It's closer than you think. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, Gregg said: Ok the regular season then going forward. Right now, it's hard to answer until we go thru FA and the draft. But the Fins and Jets have closed the gap. Allen is the best QB in the division, but I am not sure the Bills have the best roster. The Bills are the favorite to win the division but if they don't, I wouldn't be surprised. Again, this is my answer now. That may change after the offseason moves are made by all 4 teams. The Bills do have the best roster and will come opening day 2023. QB counts for far more than any other player on a team, especially a top 2 or 3 QB. We've had plenty of years in the past with a really good roster, but couldn't get anything that resembled a franchise QB, like the Jets roster currently sits. Until they get a QB everything else doesn’t matter, they won't be a true contender to unseat us or go deep in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Jets won 7 games last year with White, Wilson, Flacco as their QB. They get a halfway decent QB then they will be trouble. The Bills have a great QB but the roster as a whole is overrated. IMHO. It's closer than you think. You are what your record says you are. Until they prove it, they are a 7 win team in the midst of a 12 year playoff drought. Thr Dolphins are better than them, and the Dolphins are not as good as the Bills. But they are a lot closer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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