BillStime Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Kind of like I got kicked off the other site?? Apology accepted. Well, the conversation folks had about you ATOP seem to suggest something different... and well, you can always prove everyone wrong, right? See, aren't rabbit holes fun, Jim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Were this to be a wide spread story stateside, LW media, and their ilk, be running amok blaming Trump. Edited November 29, 2022 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, BillStime said: Well, the conversation folks had about you ATOP seem to suggest something different... and well, you can always prove everyone wrong, right? See, aren't rabbit holes fun, Jim? Sorry, is this the board that wouldn't allow you to enter because you are such an douche? How would you know if he was banned or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Well, the conversation folks had about you ATOP seem to suggest something different... and well, you can always prove everyone wrong, right? See, aren't rabbit holes fun, Jim? Well their suggestions are completely different and wrong. See Billy I left that place on my own accord because it's nothing other than a right wing circle jerk and being on a site where everyone agrees with each other is boring to me. And rabbit hole are ***** awesome. Unless you're afraid by going down one for fear you will be shown how wrong you are. isn't that why you don't like them Billy Boy? I think that's why. Even this rabbit hole here of your own making proved you are wrong. Well that's because you're typically wrong more than you are right. Carry on rabbit boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: That was my point. 😉 So neither the President or any white house statement or spokesperson has publicly called out China for human rights abuses as relates to the recent uprising nor are they likely to. Bush in 1989 clearly called them out. Thus the compare and contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Now how hard was that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: So neither the President or any white house statement or spokesperson has publicly called out China for human rights abuses as relates to the recent uprising nor are they likely to. Bush in 1989 clearly called them out. Thus the compare and contrast. I'm giving the current leadership the benefit of the doubt that they will come out with a more comprehensive statement. Too soon, in my opinion, to compare and contrast. How long had the uprisings been going on before Bush made the statement you linked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'm giving the current leadership the benefit of the doubt that they will come out with a more comprehensive statement. Too soon, in my opinion, to compare and contrast. How long had the uprisings been going on before Bush made the statement you linked? Let’s put Kamala on it. She’s bound to get on the root causes. You go girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 49 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Now how hard was that? The leader of the free world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Now how hard was that? And those are only words. The Chinese will continue to do what they have always done. Did Tiananmen change anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Let’s put Kamala on it. She’s bound to get on the root causes. You go girl! "China is a country in Asia. It exists near another country called Russia. Russia decided to invade Ukraine and that's just wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Sorry, is this the board that wouldn't allow you to enter because you are such an douche? How would you know if he was banned or not? Oh, how do you know I'm not a member? lmao 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Well their suggestions are completely different and wrong. See Billy I left that place on my own accord because it's nothing other than a right wing circle jerk and being on a site where everyone agrees with each other is boring to me. And rabbit hole are ***** awesome. Unless you're afraid by going down one for fear you will be shown how wrong you are. isn't that why you don't like them Billy Boy? I think that's why. Even this rabbit hole here of your own making proved you are wrong. Well that's because you're typically wrong more than you are right. Carry on rabbit boy. OKAY JIMMMMMMY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh, how do you know I'm not a member? lmao OKAY JIMMMMMMY! How come you are lashing out? Everyone's trying to be so nice to you. Looks like Chinese authorities are going out and starting to knock on some doors.id expect the protests to be squashed handily once they throw a few of those troublemakers down in the hole. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-police-out-numbers-prevent-more-covid-protests-2022-11-29/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: OKAY JIMMMMMMY! That's all you got? It's like talking to a 5 year old. Have you ever admitted you were wrong? Or do you think you're never wrong? Let's go down THAT rabbit hole. This should be fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Oh, how do you know I'm not a member? lmao You have been whining about being excluded for years. Edited November 29, 2022 by Tenhigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I'm giving the current leadership the benefit of the doubt that they will come out with a more comprehensive statement. Too soon, in my opinion, to compare and contrast. How long had the uprisings been going on before Bush made the statement you linked? LOL! Yeah, Joke sure showed the "pariah" MBS when given the chance. He'll sit back and wait for China to shut down the protestors and thus be able to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 There’s some weird ***** going on over there. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCQL8XL/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCQFvS9/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCQAwAb/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCQ5r8y/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCQ6oJC/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Blitz said: The leader of the free world He's a governor. Easy to pipe up when you don't wear the crown. The current leader of the free world is holding his tongue and was roundly criticized by the right when he speaks out in support of Taiwan. The last guy said it was great that Xi made himself totalitarian president for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sundancer said: He's a governor. Easy to pipe up when you don't wear the crown. The current leader of the free world is holding his tongue and was roundly criticized by the right when he speaks out in support of Taiwan. The last guy said it was great that Xi made himself totalitarian president for life. Holding his tongue? What does this mean? Why is he “holding his tongue”? Trump? Why bring up Trump? What does he have to do with this? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brueggs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Another interesting development. Apple has disabled Airdrop, but only in China. How effed up is that? They allow TikTok, even though they know that China is using it to gather information. Hopefully Elon starts a smart phone company. Its long past due that American citizens start voting with their dollars, because that is the vote that really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Brueggs said: Another interesting development. Apple has disabled Airdrop, but only in China. How effed up is that? They allow TikTok, even though they know that China is using it to gather information. Hopefully Elon starts a smart phone company. Its long past due that American citizens start voting with their dollars, because that is the vote that really counts. This country is addicted to apple like heroin junkies The dream is over, I'm afraid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TSOL said: This country is addicted to apple like heroin junkies The dream is over, I'm afraid Unfortunately, I think you are right. People are choosing convenience and devices over freedom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sundancer Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Holding his tongue? What does this mean? Why is he “holding his tongue”? To not rile China more than he has on Taiwan. I may disagree with it but that's why. China is a danger. 12 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Trump? Why bring up Trump? What does he have to do with this? 🙄 We brought up Biden and DeSantis and their reactions to China's totalitarianism. Trump was president so his reaction matters too. The point is: US presidents need to be more circumspect than state governors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Sundancer said: To not rile China more than he has on Taiwan. I may disagree with it but that's why. China is a danger. We brought up Biden and DeSantis and their reactions to China's totalitarianism. Trump was president so his reaction matters too. The point is: US presidents need to be more circumspect than state governors. Or Presidential candidates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, Doc said: Or Presidential candidates... I'm not totally convinced he's running though he may but they can say crazy ***** too. Inauguration day is when things get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Sundancer said: I'm not totally convinced he's running though he may but they can say crazy ***** too. Inauguration day is when things get real. I'm talking about Joke prior to the 2020 election. Talking about MBS and how he was a pariah and all that. And when he gets the chance...he turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Doc said: I'm talking about Joke prior to the 2020 election. Talking about MBS and how he was a pariah and all that. And when he gets the chance...he turtles. The Saudis hate Biden for his criticism and are making him pay for it. Trump and Kushner, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Sundancer said: The Saudis hate Biden for his criticism and are making him pay for it. Trump and Kushner, however... Yup. He should have been more circumspect. Now we're all paying the price, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Pretty quiet on the Lib front. I suspect they are wrestling with the hypocrisy seeing it come full circle. It would be comical if nations weren't literally getting wrecked over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Brueggs said: Pretty quiet on the Lib front. I suspect they are wrestling with the hypocrisy seeing it come full circle. It would be comical if nations weren't literally getting wrecked over it. They haven't been told how to feelz about it. They're conflicted over the Chinese people protesting for democracy and against lockdowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doc said: They haven't been told how to feelz about it. They're conflicted over the Chinese people protesting for democracy and against lockdowns. That seems about right. I love this White House statement... "We've long said everyone has the right to peacefully protest, here in the United States, and around the world. This includes in the PRC". Are they insinuating that they have the power to tell other nations what their citizens have a right to do? If the PRC keeps going, they might have to paint it as an "insurrection"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Why does it seem like Leftists constantly contradict themselves with their hypocrisy? Because they base their arguments on emotion instead of logic, so there is never any congruency to their positions… It’s always “Whatever feels good to me now” or “Whatever gives me a political advantage on this topic”, and we will just deal with the next issue when it comes… They don’t seem to have a set of values that they apply to all issues… That’s why they can support (or pretend to) the Covid protestors in China but be against the Covid protestors in Canada…They can be against Nazis in America, but support Nazis in Ukraine…They claim to be for free speech, unless it disagrees with their speech… Edited November 30, 2022 by JaCrispy 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Brueggs said: Pretty quiet on the Lib front. I suspect they are wrestling with the hypocrisy seeing it come full circle. It would be comical if nations weren't literally getting wrecked over it. Love these manufactured controversies that only play within the cult. smfh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Back to China XI JINPING UNMASKED: The Tiananmen Tiger Stalks the Chinese Communist Government. Throughout the country protesters — some wearing surgical masks– stand before cellphone cameras and raise blank sheets of white paper. Right — white empty space. To paraphrase Cool Hand Luke, sometimes nothing is a real cool message. The blank sheets simultaneously satirize and defy the CCP’s malignant state censorship. My translation of the blank: “We Chinese citizens say nothing yet you CCP tyrants fear our thoughts.” The empty page attacks the CCP’s systemic truth denial. Check it out. https://strategypage.com/on_point/202211309119.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Here’s a look at free speech absolutist Elon Musk’s ties to Chinese censorship... https://www.fastcompany.com/90817476/free-speech-absolutist-elon-musk-ties-to-chinese-censorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Elon Musk says Apple ‘misunderstanding’ resolved, thanks Tim Cook for campus tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brueggs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 6:17 PM, nedboy7 said: Here’s a look at free speech absolutist Elon Musk’s ties to Chinese censorship... https://www.fastcompany.com/90817476/free-speech-absolutist-elon-musk-ties-to-chinese-censorship Where in this slanted hit piece article does it demonstrate anything close to what Apple has done? Some Tesla's had problems, and the guy couldn't see his Twitter responses. That isn't even close to preventing citizens from communicating without government oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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