22 million deadbeats in America

[Albwan]

President Biden says 22 million people have signed up for student loan forgiveness

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/president-biden-says-22-million-people-have-signed-up-for-student-loan-forgiveness.html

 

In the first week, 22 million people have registered for student loan forgiveness, President Joe Biden said.

In August, he announced that federal student loan borrowers earning less than $125,000 and households earning less than $250,000 could get up to $10,000 in debt relief. Pell Grant recipients can get up to $20,000.

“In total more than 40 million Americans stand to benefit from this relief,” Biden said. “For borrowers out of school, nearly 90% of relief is going to go to people making under $75,000 a year.”

 

 

 

lol. socialism rules yea baby.

c'mon cultists bring trump outta that pea sized mind and bring him in here lol

[unbillievable]

Since 70% of Millennials regret buying a home, how about some mortgage forgiveness?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

57 minutes ago, Albwan said:

President Biden says 22 million people have signed up for student loan forgiveness

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/president-biden-says-22-million-people-have-signed-up-for-student-loan-forgiveness.html

 

In the first week, 22 million people have registered for student loan forgiveness, President Joe Biden said.

In August, he announced that federal student loan borrowers earning less than $125,000 and households earning less than $250,000 could get up to $10,000 in debt relief. Pell Grant recipients can get up to $20,000.

“In total more than 40 million Americans stand to benefit from this relief,” Biden said. “For borrowers out of school, nearly 90% of relief is going to go to people making under $75,000 a year.”

 

 

 

lol. socialism rules yea baby.

c'mon cultists bring trump outta that pea sized mind and bring him in here lol

Once the game is decided, you play by the rules as established. 
 

Take the forgiveness and move on.  

[Chef Jim]

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Once the game is decided, you play by the rules as established. 
 

Take the forgiveness and move on.  

Hard to move on from removing debt from individuals and adding to our growing national debt.  There is no moving on.  

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Hard to move on from removing debt from individuals and adding to our growing national debt.  There is no moving on.  

Cry harder.

 

You didn’t say a word about the national debt that soared under Trump.

 

Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years

 

Trump Added More to the National Debt Than Obama and Bush

 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Cry harder.

 

You didn’t say a word about the national debt that soared under Trump.

 

Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years

 

Trump Added More to the National Debt Than Obama and Bush

 

 

Stick with accusing me of things you have a clue about ok.  I’ve been bitching about government handouts since TARP under Bush.  I’ve been waiting for the inflation we have now to hit for over 10 years. I’m just surprised it took so long.  Why I don’t blame the inflation on Biden.  

 

 

[Chef Jim]

18 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Cry harder.

 

You didn’t say a word about the national debt that soared under Trump.

 

Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years

 

Trump Added More to the National Debt Than Obama and Bush

 

 

Funny how you pick and choose when you want to become a “fiscal conservative”.  🙄

 

So you have a problem with Trump’s spending but not Biden’s?  We have a term for that. You may have heard it. Political Hack? 
 

I have a problem with most government spending. Why I’m not aligned with any party. They all spend my money like drunken sailors. 

 

[BillStime]

14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Funny how you pick and choose when you want to become a “fiscal conservative”.  🙄

 

So you have a problem with Trump’s spending but not Biden’s?  We have a term for that. You may have heard it. Political Hack? 
 

I have a problem with most government spending. Why I’m not aligned with any party. They all spend my money like drunken sailors. 

 

Funny how you pick and choose when to worry about our debt…

[Chef Jim]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Funny how you pick and choose when to worry about our debt…

 

 

44 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

I’ve been bitching about government handouts since TARP under Bush.  I’ve been waiting for the inflation we have now to hit for over 10 years. I’m just surprised it took so long.  Why I don’t blame the inflation on Biden.

🙄

[Tiberius]

Those people that couldn't do college really hate this 

[sherpa]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Those people that couldn't do college really hate this 

 

So do a number that could, and paid for their kids that could, and are funding their grandchildren who will.

 

The gov, by one presidential decree, having never gone through Congress, has just eliminated hundreds of billions owed to the American taxpayer across every economic level.

 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Those people that couldn't do college really hate this 

***** clueless. 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

So do a number that could, and paid for their kids that could, and are funding their grandchildren who will.

 

The gov, by one presidential decree, having never gone through Congress, has just eliminated hundreds of billions owed to the American taxpayer across every economic level.

 

But the ones that never got near going really hate this. It's a class hatred. 

[sherpa]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But the ones that never got near going really hate this. It's a class hatred. 

 

Nonsense.

The claim of "class" is diminished by the fact that they can't, or won't honor obligations.

It is a boldfaced bribery attempt that allows deadbeats to not live up to promised obligations.

[Albwan]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But the ones that never got near going really hate this. It's a class hatred. 

If deadbeats are a class, yup.

[JDHillFan]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But the ones that never got near going really hate this. It's a class hatred. 

Couples making 250,000 AGI have historically been shat upon. Thank you for recognizing their plight. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Couples making 250,000 AGI have historically been shat upon. Thank you for recognizing their plight. 

The struggle is real

[Doc]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Those people that couldn't do college really hate this 

 

Like who?

[Precision]

Losers that can't come up with a measly 10 grand really love this.

Edited October 22, 2022 by Precision

[T master]

9 hours ago, Albwan said:

President Biden says 22 million people have signed up for student loan forgiveness

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/president-biden-says-22-million-people-have-signed-up-for-student-loan-forgiveness.html

 

In the first week, 22 million people have registered for student loan forgiveness, President Joe Biden said.

In August, he announced that federal student loan borrowers earning less than $125,000 and households earning less than $250,000 could get up to $10,000 in debt relief. Pell Grant recipients can get up to $20,000.

“In total more than 40 million Americans stand to benefit from this relief,” Biden said. “For borrowers out of school, nearly 90% of relief is going to go to people making under $75,000 a year.”

 

 

 

lol. socialism rules yea baby.

c'mon cultists bring trump outta that pea sized mind and bring him in here lol

 

I think it's a hole lot more than 22 million dead beats in this country if you could actually get a count of the true amount of those that are fleecing the welfare system, the workman comp system, & any others that you can think about i think the end count would be unreal .

 

Use to be a long long time ago people wanted to come here for the American dream of making a better life for them selves & their families those folks would immigrate from other countries learn how to speak english, learn about American history to assimilate into the American culture & way of life & work their asses off to do better for them selves and their families .

 

But fast forward to today there are those Americans born & bread that have learned how to fleece the system & feel entitled & believe that they shouldn't have to work for a thing like health care & other things that use to be a perk of being a good employee someone that didn't take time off of work overtime they got a sniffle .

 

But thanks to the way that politics works & how they have found that they can not only give them selves raises when ever they want but they have found that if they make other things such as welfare, open social security, health care, & many other things that a lot of people don't pay into readily available to all they can get more to vote for them as long as they keep giving away these so called "Free entitlements" which is no more free than nothing !! 

 

Then the lazy Americans of all colors want the immigrants to come in because the Americans are to dam lazy to work any more usually if you look for the big fat guy sitting in the truck with the air-conditioning blowing or leaning up against his truck with his phone on FB that will be the foreman while his immigrant crew is busting their ass to make him & the owner rich .

 

It just amazes me how things have changed in such a truly short period of time & there are those that think this is for the better . Kids now a days have little to no consequences, chores, or responsibility's & if they do some thing wrong OMG i can't discipline them that negativity would just be wrong all of them need to get a trophy regardless of how they do you can't hurt poor little Tommy's feelings or tell him he needs to stop throwing a tantrum during the game that would just be wrong .

 

And then these little folks grow up to be spoiled rotten ass politicians that have been given for the most part every thing they have by daddy & mommy & we wonder why the hell this country is the way it is of the love of god & all things American we as a country need to wake up & not be so dam afraid to hurt someones feelings !!

 

America has become way to friggin sensitive about every thing which is why these dead beats are here the American way of life has created exactly what we have today then when you get someone that has the balls to call things what they are they speak hate speech or are a homophobe, or a racist or what ever else they can come up with as a reason to not have to look at things as they are .

 

And the real bad thing is it will probably get a hole lot worse before it gets better because we have those as i said that are afraid to work afraid to see the truth & afraid that if they do truly stand up for the things that America was built on they will be cancelled !! 

 

So the dead beats will continue to multiply because free is much better than having to work for anything any more & to become a video gaming champion is the new vocation of choice so hold on & enjoy the ride because once the older generations die off this country is in a world of S**T !! 

[BillStime]

Millionaire for billionaires couldn’t be more proud of their simps.

 

Great job puppets - I hope you win.

 

 

 

[Tenhigh]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

Funny how you pick and choose when to worry about our debt…

Is your alma mater eligible?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, this was uncalled for, but I couldn't resist.  

[Tiberius]

13 hours ago, T master said:

 

 

Use to be a long long time ago people wanted to come here for the American dream of making a better life for them selves & their families those folks would immigrate from other countries learn how to speak english, learn about American history to assimilate into the American culture & way of life & work their asses off to do better for them selves and their families .

 

The immigrants that come now are great people. They are not all high on meth and fentenyl and lazy, they are good people for the most part and we need more people to work and reach the American dream. 

[Chef Jim]

17 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The immigrants that come now are great people. They are not all high on meth and fentenyl and lazy, they are good people for the most part and we need more people to work and reach the American dream. 

Not uncontrolled or unchecked. We had nearly 3,000,000 border crossings this fiscal year.  At that rate in 10 years we’d have almost the population of California, our most populous state, enter.  If you don’t think that’s a challenge you’re cra……oh wait.  I forgot who I was talking too. 
 

Carry on crazy boy. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

22 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Hard to move on from removing debt from individuals and adding to our growing national debt.  There is no moving on.  

There’s always moving on, Chef. 
 

I completely understand and do not disagree with your entire premise, as offered here and explained in your subsequent posts on this topic.  
 

The thing is, the government giveth, and the government taketh away.  This scheme is ill-conceived, ill-advised, and is simply phase one of the next stage of loan forgiveness.  
 

I considered it my obligation to assist our children in planning and funding their higher education, with the necessary shepherding away from high cost schools, debt management and living up to their part of the bargain.  In fact, I considered it a privilege. 
 

So, I read the comments and listen to politicians speak about tax rates and consider where they will go in the future.  I consider the impact of taxation on my earnings and my plans for retirement and the next phase of my life.  I believe contributing to the greater good is important, necessary and part of my duty as a citizen.  I consider that a privilege as well, though i recognize the system is broken af. 
 

You play within the rules, you pay attention to the rules, and when things change, you adapt accordingly.  The decent, hard-working citizen who has met their obligation and chooses to pass on this….opportunity, ugly though it may be, will likely be the same person getting squeezed by excessive and onerous taxation in the future.  In fact, it’s almost a certainty given the historical tax rates in the nation.  

 

Now, if the battle can be won legislatively or in the courts, and this boondoggle stymied, I’m more than ok with that as well.  

27 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Not uncontrolled or unchecked. We had nearly 3,000,000 border crossings this fiscal year.  At that rate in 10 years we’d have almost the population of California, our most populous state, enter.  If you don’t think that’s a challenge you’re cra……oh wait.  I forgot who I was talking too. 
 

Carry on crazy boy. 

Tibs comes up with some funny stuff from time to time. 
 

“…they are not all high on meth and fentanyl and lazy…”.

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There’s always moving on, Chef. 
 

I completely understand and do not disagree with your entire premise, as offered here and explained in your subsequent posts on this topic.  
 

The thing is, the government giveth, and the government taketh away.  This scheme is ill-conceived, ill-advised, and is simply phase one of the next stage of loan forgiveness.  
 

I considered it my obligation to assist our children in planning and funding their higher education, with the necessary shepherding away from high cost schools, debt management and living up to their part of the bargain.  In fact, I considered it a privilege. 
 

So, I read the comments and listen to politicians speak about tax rates and consider where they will go in the future.  I consider the impact of taxation on my earnings and my plans for retirement and the next phase of my life.  I believe contributing to the greater good is important, necessary and part of my duty as a citizen.  I consider that a privilege as well, though i recognize the system is broken af. 
 

You play within the rules, you pay attention to the rules, and when things change, you adapt accordingly.  The decent, hard-working citizen who has met their obligation and chooses to pass on this….opportunity, ugly though it may be, will likely be the same person getting squeezed by excessive and onerous taxation in the future.  In fact, it’s almost a certainty given the historical tax rates in the nation.  

 

Now, if the battle can be won legislatively or in the courts, and this boondoggle stymied, I’m more than ok with that as well.  

Tibs comes up with some funny stuff from time to time. 
 

“…they are not all high on meth and fentanyl and lazy…”.

 

 

 

 

You changed the meaning of my post. Italicize a word a did not? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You changed the meaning of my post. Italicize a word a did not? 

No, I didn’t.  One uses italics to differentiate one word from others in text.  That was my intent. 
 

You raised the issue of fentanyl, meth and relative laziness in response to a post that had no reference to those subjects.  Why, I cannot say, as it was your post, outlining your thoughts on issues you brought to the table. 
 

I think it’s because you hold some sort of bias on a subconscious level, but that’s just a guess.  
 

 

[T master]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

The immigrants that come now are great people. They are not all high on meth and fentenyl and lazy, they are good people for the most part and we need more people to work and reach the American dream. 

 

I agree some are great people but mixed in with them are the criminals, drug pushers and those that are just looking for a free ride we don't need them ! Let them come legally not just to be brought in to get votes for either party & that's pretty much what it's about . 

 

Answer me this why can't it be like it use to be those coming here in search of the American dream & weren't afraid to assimilate into the country not just show up & collect from those that pay into the system then those born and raised here have to adjust to every way they know & print everything in 3 or 4 languages to make it easier on them ? 

 

Use to be if your coming here to a english speaking country you need to at least know enough english to be able to function with in this culture & you need to know enough American history to appreciate what America is & how it got to be what it is as a country and abide by the laws of this country not try to change them to the things from the country of which you came from then after you have proven that you are worthy of being a American citizen get sworn in as such .

 

Sure you can honor your traditions but the if you decide to be a American you need to honor the American laws & all that comes with being a American not just come collect & try to change this country to their version of what it should be. 

 

None of this just walk across the border no formal learning of the language & everything as far as housing, Transportation, Food, Clothing, health care & the rest given to them for what every one with no common sense thinks is free which weather you know it or not all of us are paying for !!

 

But hey as long as they vote for the one that gives them all of this stuff & allows them to come in scot free it's all good .

 

They will just keep printing more & more money to cover the cost driving up inflation our taxes & everything else creating more burdens on the system while those that were born here & those that have served in the armed forces that are homeless & go with out the health care that they deserve for their service go with out sounds like a great plan to me .

 

Just open the gates let them all in screw it !! 

 

Oh your right a lot of them are not meth heads & fentanyl freaks but a lot of them are bringing that crap here as mules from the cartels & a lot of them that come across are criminals or could be terrorists but because they don't take the time to vet them they come here only create more crime in our streets or kill people then once caught we incarcerate them & the American people are paying for them on top of giving them the free bees they got coming here illegally .

 

But hey it's all good sound political plan for re election to me !! If they truly want the American dream like a lot of those that came here years ago they will be willing to do it the right way and make the sacrifices they need to to become a American citizen LEGALLY !!! 

[Tiberius]

47 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

No, I didn’t.  One uses italics to differentiate one word from others in text.  That was my intent. 
 

You raised the issue of fentanyl, meth and relative laziness in response to a post that had no reference to those subjects.  Why, I cannot say, as it was your post, outlining your thoughts on issues you brought to the table. 
 

I think it’s because you hold some sort of bias on a subconscious level, but that’s just a guess.  
 

 

My quotes can stand on their own without dishonest people changing the meaning to twist the meaning 

 

 

2 minutes ago, T master said:

 

I agree some are great people but mixed in with them are the criminals, drug pushers and those that are just looking for a free ride we don't need them ! Let them come legally not just to be brought in to get votes for either party & that's pretty much what it's about .  

There are those people in any group or demographic, the immigrants just seem to have less of it than say the fly over section of the nation which appears to be drowning in drugs, crime and deadbeatism. No wonder Hershel appeals to that crowd so much, people elect people they can identify with 

[T master]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

My quotes can stand on their own without dishonest people changing the meaning to twist the meaning 

 

 

There are those people in any group or demographic, the immigrants just seem to have less of it than say the fly over section of the nation which appears to be drowning in drugs, crime and deadbeatism. No wonder Hershel appeals to that crowd so much, people elect people they can identify with 

 

But once again you didn't answer the main part of the question & you never will give a common sense related answer to the problem bait and switch ! 

 

Why can't they come here LEGALLY & assimilate learn the language study Americanism become a American citizen through sacrifice & put American value first not their country of origin .

 

Not a Mexican American, not a African American, not a Polish American but a American of African dissent, a AMERICAN of Mexican dissent, or a AMERICAN of polish dissent other words America FIRST not last !!  

Edited October 23, 2022 by T master

[Tiberius]

Look at this map! 

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html

 

Look where all the ODing is 

 

11 minutes ago, T master said:

 

But once again you didn't answer the main part of the question & you never will give a common sense related answer to the problem bait and switch ! 

 

Why can't they come here LEGALLY & assimilate learn the language study Americanism become a American citizen through sacrifice & put American value first not their country of origin .

 

Not a Mexican American, not a African American, not a Polish American but a American of African dissent, a AMERICAN of Mexican dissent, or a AMERICAN of polish dissent other words America FIRST not last !!  

Agreed, let's let more legal immigrants in. But the GOP would freak out and they hate the country, so what do they care if there are not enough workers? What do they care about the USA? Nothing, just keep the checks coming....along with the prescription drugs! 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Look at this map! 

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html

 

Look where all the ODing is 

 

Agreed, let's let more legal immigrants in. But the GOP would freak out and they hate the country, so what do they care if there are not enough workers? What do they care about the USA? Nothing, just keep the checks coming....along with the prescription drugs! 

Because, as Nancy says, we need more brown people (my words) to pick your food Tibs? 

[T master]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Look at this map! 

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html

 

Look where all the ODing is 

 

Agreed, let's let more legal immigrants in. But the GOP would freak out and they hate the country, so what do they care if there are not enough workers? What do they care about the USA? Nothing, just keep the checks coming....along with the prescription drugs! 

 

But LEGALLY that;s the one thing you won't commit to by saying it !! And yes someone has to instead of getting re election money fro the super groups which you know some are big Pharma shut them down no more opioids no more of these drugs that cure one "Symptom" but creates 4 others .

 

Stop creating & allowing through the corruption that is the FDA & the EPA drugs & things such as round up and food preservatives that are known to cause cancer & other disease to be put out in order to keep the loop going of keeping us all sick to make more money .

 

Don't treat or stop the cause just treat the symptom while creating more things that actually cause the problem then say "WHAT PROBLEM WE DON"T HAVE A PROBLEM" ?? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

50 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

My quotes can stand on their own without dishonest people changing the meaning to twist the meaning 

I’m not sure what you are fussing about. I agree completely that you said what you meant, and meant what you said. 
 

What I’m hurting about today is why you’re lashing out at me for quoting you verbatim.  If you meant something other than what you said, simply clarify or move on.   That you have dug into the ‘I didn’t mean to say that out loud’ mindset speaks volumes imo. 
 

If dishonesty has established a home here on a beautiful Sunday morning, it resides in Camp Tiberius.  

[Commsvet11]

On 10/22/2022 at 12:25 PM, Tiberius said:

Those people that couldn't do college really hate this 

If someone isn’t able to research how much the average yearly income for a field of study, calculate how much their entire program will cost and how much they will need to pay their monthly loans in the first place before they start, are those folks really college material? 

 

Anybody can “do” college but their are trade fields that pay much better that the person was smart enough to recognize.