st pete gogolak Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 One of the big concerns about Bills' D in 2020 and 2021 was its inconsistency at stopping the run (2020 home game against the Chiefs, 2021 Jonathan Taylor debacle being a couple of examples). We were not 2021 Chargers bad but very middle of the pack. This year - first in YPG and second in YPA. Tremendous. Don't know if it's Jones being 100% better than Star or DE's that play the run well (Lawson, Rousseau, et al.) or a combination of things but it is great to see. Used to be worried about teams that run the ball well but this year - Jets, Pats, Browns - bring them on! 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: One of the big concerns about Bills' D in 2020 and 2021 was its inconsistency at stopping the run (2020 home game against the Chiefs, 2021 Jonathan Taylor debacle being a couple of examples). We were not 2021 Chargers bad but very middle of the pack. This year - first in YPG and second in YPA. Tremendous. Don't know if it's Jones being 100% better than Star or DE's that play the run well (Lawson, Rousseau, et al.) or a combination of things but it is great to see. Used to be worried about teams that run the ball well but this year - Jets, Pats, Browns - bring them on! I think the line in general is very deep in terms of ability all over the place. Rousseau, Basham and Lawson are all very effective against the run and setting edges, Da'Quan is a monster inside and the other DT's have been playing very well also. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Those teams will be the Litmus test for our run defense, but I agree, so far it looks improved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Well. First of all, the DL we have this year is significantly better at stopping the run. Phillips, Lawson, Jones, Settle. Are all better than the best run defenders we had last year. but, it seems we are also in shootouts more. Let’s face it, Pittsburg wasn’t gonna try and run being down by multiple scores. Miami wanted a track meet at WR, along with the Rams and the Chiefs. And I’d say that Baltimore isn’t exactly a run game juggernaut anymore. but the fact is we have definitely gotten better and I’m not worried anymore. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Daquon Jones deserves a lot of credit for being immovable against the run and still getting penetration against the pass. Settle has been a bit of a disappointment, but he also has some lingering injuries. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 DaQuan Jones has been the most underrated player on this team this season. What an addition. Add to that Rousseau is a very complete DE already. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This has happened during the toughest part of our schedule in spite of Oliver, through injury, being a non-contributor. DaQuan is making everything work better, including Edmunds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Our run defense has improved dramatically. There is the issue of us blowing out numerous teams, which forces them to throw, but the D really is so much better against the run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Those teams will be the Litmus test for our run defense, but I agree, so far it looks improved Because the Titans and Ravens werent good tests? 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 We make teams abandon the run early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Replacing that bum Star with players who actually want to play 🙂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Yards per game are skewed because we’ve had so many big leads, but yards per attempt still matter. If anything, you’d think we’d give up a bit more because we have a big lead to protect playing for the pass. I’m very pleasantly surprised so far. Much improved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bandito said: are these guys upgrades over what we had last year? ABSOLUTELY!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: We make teams abandon the run early. They have faced the third fewest rush attempts against, but Buffalo is allowing 3.5 YPC which is second best in the league, behind only SF who is allowing 3.3 YPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Because the Titans and Ravens werent good tests? The titans we were smoking and they needed to pass to try and make a game of it. And the Ravens rushing stats are misleading. They are based on Lamar’s ability to run and make things happen when plays break down. Their actual designed running plays are not anything like they used to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Yards per game are skewed because we’ve had so many big leads, but yards per attempt still matter. If anything, you’d think we’d give up a bit more because we have a big lead to protect playing for the pass. I’m very pleasantly surprised so far. Much improved. Exactly! Second in YPA is impressive no matter what else is going on in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, mrags said: The titans we were smoking and they needed to pass to try and make a game of it. And the Ravens rushing stats are misleading. They are based on Lamar’s ability to run and make things happen when plays break down. Their actual designed running plays are not anything like they used to be so? rushing stats are still rushing stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Von Miller’s ability against the run is overshadowed by his pass rushing abilities. He’s almost as good against the run as he his at getting to the qb. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: One of the big concerns about Bills' D in 2020 and 2021 was its inconsistency at stopping the run (2020 home game against the Chiefs, 2021 Jonathan Taylor debacle being a couple of examples). We were not 2021 Chargers bad but very middle of the pack. This year - first in YPG and second in YPA. Tremendous. Don't know if it's Jones being 100% better than Star or DE's that play the run well (Lawson, Rousseau, et al.) or a combination of things but it is great to see. Used to be worried about teams that run the ball well but this year - Jets, Pats, Browns - bring them on! A defensive line that actually commands double teams which is allowing our linebackers to fly around. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Well I don't agree that it's been a product of blow out losses. The production is very real. KC usually runs all over us, we shut down the run and it was a huge underrated key to victory. Jones as mentioned has been great, Phillips has been so disruptive...the entire push from the interior guys and the havoc created by DEs has been key. Edited October 18, 2022 by RichRiderBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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