Warcodered Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: LMAO, so you're giving up Elam, Shakir (5th round, but you get the point), and Moss for an injury prone back that will still be running behind the statistically worst run blocking line in the league? Yes everyday of the week with the team we have  We have a legit shot at the Superbowl, you take that shot  The bills don't run the ball much and use their short passing game as their run game  Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Especially considering CMC is always broken.  If we trade for him, keeping Motor is mandatory. Until he breaks.  Then we’d have Duke and Cook.  🤮 You’re nutso Duke is Motor, IMO. May even have a better burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Yes everyday of the week with the team we have  We have a legit shot at the Superbowl, you take that shot  The bills don't run the ball much and use their short passing game as their run game  Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Still not worth a 1st round pick in any metric. If Carolina does move him, I can guarantee you it ain't for a 1st round pick. I don't think there's any team in the league right now that's so desperate for a RB, they would be willing to part with a 1st rounder.  You are severely undervaluing what a first-round pick actually is. Edited October 13, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. I believe Dorsey and Co wanted a more dynamic RB in his offense and thought Cook was that guy. Cook’s not ready yet. CMC is that guy 5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? With the ability to take it to the house 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I believe Dorsey and Co wanted a more dynamic RB in his offense and thought Cook was that guy. Cook’s not ready yet. CMC is that guy With the ability to take it to the house who has a history of injuries and does not warrant 1st round pick compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:  Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Was an elite passing back. We don't know what he is anymore because he's barely on the field.  Singletary is pretty darn good as a receiving back when we utilize him that way, look at the Miami game.   14 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: CMC would make this offense the most multi-dimensional, most explosive team since the Greatest Show on Turf.  You're basing this assumption off of the one great season McCaffrey has had. We're only multi-dimensional when he's on the field which isn't very much as of late. Don't get me wrong, I wouldnt mind trying him out in our offense if we could trade moss and a 4th rd pick at most but I can't imagine a world where Carolina would go for that.  Also McC is gonna want a payday based on his one great season and there's no way the bills are resigning him.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Still not worth a 1st round pick in any metric. If Carolina does move him, I can guarantee you it ain't for a 1st round pick. I don't think there's any team in the league right now that's so desperate for a RB, they would be willing to part with a 1st rounder.  You are severely undervaluing what a first-round pick actually is. Losing a first hurts but it's a future and if it means an even better shot at a super bowl I would take it and not think twice  The bills have probably the best team in football, if I can add someone with the talent of CMC without giving up any contributors to the current team(moss is very replaceable) and only futures. I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Losing a first hurts but it's a future and if it means an even better shot at a super bowl I would take it and not think twice  The bills have probably the best team in football, if I can add someone with the talent of CMC without giving up any contributors to the current team(moss is very replaceable) and only futures. I'm in Giving up a 1st round pick for an injury prone back isn't happening and I'm sure Beane agrees considering he's all about "value". Not to mention, we can't afford him. We are already a projected $7.5M over the cap next year and that's before even signing any of our own big FA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lost said: Was an elite passing back. We don't know what he is anymore because he's barely on the field.  Singletary is pretty darn good as a receiving back when we utilize him that way, look at the Miami game.   Which is why I wouldn't trade singletary in any deal for cmc  I'm willing to push everything all in for a shot at the super bowl  We will see if beane is too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Duke is Motor, IMO. May even have a better burst sure, in your opinion. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Giving up a 1st round pick for an injury prone back isn't happening and I'm sure Beane agrees considering he's all about "value". Not to mention, we can't afford him. We are already a projected $7.5M over the cap next year and that's before even signing any of our own big FA's. So cap issues are coming, this might be the bills best shot at a championship, just gives me more reason to take a chance now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: So cap issues are coming, this might be the bills best shot at a championship, just gives me more reason to take a chance now Wait, you're willing to put us in cap hell for the CHANCE to win now? CMC would guarantee nothing and there would still be the possibility we don't win the SB and then are still in cap hell all for nothing AND minus a first round pick.  Yeah, umm...No. Edited October 13, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Wait, you're willing to put us in cap hell for the CHANCE to win now? CMC would guarantee nothing and there would still be the possibility we don't win the SB and then are still in cap hell all for nothing.  Yeah, umm...No. According to your post you said the bills are already projected 7.5 million over the cap  So aren't cap troubles coming either way?  One way increases the super bowl odds this season the other doesn't do a thing  Plus the cap isn't real, look at what the saints and Steelers did for years while rothlesberger and brees played Edited October 13, 2022 by Cheektowaga Chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: According to your post you said the bills are already projected 7.5 million over the cap  So aren't cap troubles coming either way?  One way increases the super bowl odds this season the other doesn't do a thing  LMAO, we're projected to be $7.5M over before even signing any of our own FA's and your solution is to add a dude owed almost $12M in base salary next year? You apparently don't want to re-sign any of our FA's. That or you're just real bad at math. So who are you cutting to get us under the cap and pay CMC? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: LMAO, we're projected to be $7.5M over before even signing any of our own FA's and your solution is to add a dude owed almost $12M in base salary next year? You apparently don't want to re-sign any of our FA's. That or you're just real bad at math. So who are you cutting to get us under the cap and pay CMC? Do you actually know cmc's contract details?  1 mil this year, the rest going forward non guaranteed. Easy restructure or cut and move on with zero harm to anyone else going forward 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, NewEra said: Especially considering CMC is always broken.  If we trade for him, keeping Motor is mandatory. Until he breaks.  Then we’d have Duke and Cook.  🤮 You’re nutso Agree…for once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. I don't know what Carolina would have to gain from taking Motor, but in the hypothetical situation where we get cmc we can't have both him and Singletary next season.  Moss can operate as a starting back with Cook sprinkled in if cmc goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pabstblueribbon said: I don't know what Carolina would have to gain from taking Motor, but in the hypothetical situation where we get cmc we can't have both him and Singletary next season.  Moss can operate as a starting back with Cook sprinkled in if cmc goes down. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Scary thought, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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