SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Imagine Bills fans getting angry because someone says Aaron Rodgers is better than Josh Allen? The good thing is Josh is actually in that conversation. People can make legitimate arguments why Josh is better. But I’m sorry, he’s not better than Aaron Rodgers, yet. Christ, people get upset when I say Lamar isn’t an elite QB. (he isn’t) Aaron has the experience and the 💍 (odd that that’s all people judge a QB by) He’s accurate and his INT’s are low. maybe because Aaron does not throw onto double coverage a lot? Plays it safe? On the other side of the spectrum you had the shiny new toy Lamar who dazzled the NFL with his running and won MVP. Then there is Josh Allen 🦄 Yeah, he was a bit rough around the edges His best WR’s were Zay Jones, J Brown and McKenzie. It took 2 seasons to eliminate “Sugar High Josh” and his 3rd to get more than 3 actually good receivers. Josh ain’t afraid of no ghosts 👻. He will throw into coverage with confidence. Josh can run like a runaway freight train. You don’t want to get in his way and also hope he doesn’t try to jump over you. If there is a loose ball Josh will emulate a rugby player and dive into the scrum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 GB is akin to NE in a way They dominated a division with weaker teams. Bears QB & Coaches Vikings QB & Coaches Detroit Coaches cuz we just saw the QB won a SB. Goff on the other hand went from a legit contender to the hell that Detroit is. It’s a passing league but you will always need to have a sustainable running game to win multiple 🏆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’m a troll for putting Allen behind Rodgers and Mahomes? You're not a troll but you do hold a minority opinion. And I'm talking among all NFL fans, critics and analyst, not just Bills fans. Allen is the odds on favorite to win MVP. Allen and the Bills are the favorite to win the Super Bowl. Allen is coming off back to back season as the top fantasy football scorer. Allen is coming off a near perfect post season. Allen is has the highest career postseason passer rating. Allen holds every single physical and mental attribute one would wish for an NFL QB to have. No other QB in the NFL holds all these attributes. Guys like Mahomes, Herbert and Rodgers are probably the closets but each is probably missing one or two attributes. If Allen's individual postseason success last year is a sign of things to come then he is also only continuing to get better. Allen's regular season last year was a noticeable dip from his production in 2020. But his 2021 postseason was so off the charts it basically made the entirety of the 2020 and 2021 seasons (regular and postseason) essentially the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I think this Stat still stands true — No QB that lead the NFL in passing yards has won a SB that season (3rd place has won, but Stats) God, I’m good 😊 http://www.footballperspective.com/the-trend-continues-no-passing-yardage-leader-has-also-won-the-super-bowl/ The Trend Continues: No Passing Yardage Leader Has Also Won The Super Bowl 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that you might find those 2 to be more reliable (maybe). In terms of “scary” though Allen is capable of doing things that neither of them are. They aren’t capable of doing anything that he isn’t. They just have less games like Atlanta or Jacksonville. Allen, when he’s clicking, is the scariest. Even in that Atlanta game Allen totally dominated on the ground. When you complete less than 50% of your passes for under 5 yards per attempt and throw 3 INTs but still come out of the game with a 60QBR it shows how dominant he was in other areas. 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I think this Stat still stands true — No QB that lead the NFL in passing yards has won a SB that season (3rd place has won, but Stats) God, I’m good 😊 http://www.footballperspective.com/the-trend-continues-no-passing-yardage-leader-has-also-won-the-super-bowl/ The Trend Continues: No Passing Yardage Leader Has Also Won The Super Bowl The league MVP is also on like 20+ year drought of winning Super Bowl as well. I'm hoping Allen breaks that drought because I really want him to win MVP. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There is no chance Josh Allen is scarier than Aaron Rodgers. I have no problem putting him 2nd though. Rodgers is on a different planet. At least Super Allen wins playoff games. Rodgers folds Like a house of cards. I’m ok with Mahomes over Allen as he has been in 2 SB’s and our guy hasn’t been in 1. Once Allen overcomes that incredible hurdle, I’ll rerank Allen as #1. My guess as it’s so da*n hard to win a SB he wins 3 before he retires and is in the playoffs every year. As long as we have Beane, McD, and Allen, they’ll field a championship team each year and then sometimes it’s just luck. It wasn’t Allen making a mistake in 13 seconds. That’s what p**see me off when analysts somehow infer its Allen’s fault they didn’t go to the SB. It was the team and the ST coach along with our CB. Thankfully that coach and player are gone and I still can’t believe we actually upgraded again this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 At best you can say Rodgers is a touch better passer and craftier. That said, Allen will destroy you with his arm, run away from you in the open field and embarrass you with his physicality, I’d be much more fearful of Allen overall. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Josh can run like a runaway freight train. You don’t want to get in his way and also hope he doesn’t try to jump over you. To this point I think it was Allen who knocked out Tyrann Mathieu when they collided last year in the postseason right? Has there ever been another instance of a QB taking a defensive player out of the game? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: To this point I think it was Allen who knocked out Tyrann Mathieu when they collided last year in the postseason right? Has there ever been another instance of a QB taking a defensive player out of the game? Yes. Jim Kelly broke players leg after he picked him off WARNING ⚠️ GRAPHIC VIDEO Atlanta Falcons CB Anthony Phillips Career Ending Knee Injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 8 hours ago, cle23 said: I love how if you dare mention anyone over Allen, you just get downvoted into oblivion. If someone said Mahomes is the better QB, you will not see lot of resistance on this board. TBD is pretty fair imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 No doubt JA has game. Now the team around him needs to rise to the occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Scariest, best, all subjective. Honestly just being discussed as a top 3-5 QB is an accomplishment. He’s entered that group. The subject of this thread is "scariest". As others have stated, Allen meets that criteria more than Rodgers . I think Allen is marginally scarier than Mahomes though the latter is marginally more consistent as a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: If someone said Mahomes is the better QB, you will not see lot of resistance on this board. TBD is pretty fair imo. True, but it will be interesting to see him without Hill. If he's still putting up the same stats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 2010 was a very long time ago. Since then, Nick Foles has won a SB. Brady won 4. 2 years ago Packers had the top WR, a top 10 running game, #1 scoring Offense and top 10 D. Then Rodgers choked away the NFCC game vs Tampa. You know who's not afraid of Rodgers? the 49ers, the Bucs..... I remember that team. You said they were extreme over achievers the previous season and weren’t that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: You're not a troll but you do hold a minority opinion. And I'm talking among all NFL fans, critics and analyst, not just Bills fans. Allen is the odds on favorite to win MVP. Allen and the Bills are the favorite to win the Super Bowl. Allen is coming off back to back season as the top fantasy football scorer. Allen is coming off a near perfect post season. Allen is has the highest career postseason passer rating. Allen holds every single physical and mental attribute one would wish for an NFL QB to have. No other QB in the NFL holds all these attributes. Guys like Mahomes, Herbert and Rodgers are probably the closets but each is probably missing one or two attributes. If Allen's individual postseason success last year is a sign of things to come then he is also only continuing to get better. Allen's regular season last year was a noticeable dip from his production in 2020. But his 2021 postseason was so off the charts it basically made the entirety of the 2020 and 2021 seasons (regular and postseason) essentially the same. Allen is a freak of nature. If I was a fan of another team I would be more afraid of Rodgers and Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Doc said: True, but it will be interesting to see him without Hill. If he's still putting up the same stats... That's like saying Allen should put up the same stats without Diggs. If Mahomes does the same without Hill, he's probably QB1 in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Rodgers has created 3 different WR1 in his career, I’m sure he’ll create another one next year. Draft Allen Lazard in fantasy. Every team has a #1 WR. The QB doesn't create them though unless you think Rodger's bun might be harboring them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love it but Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes are still the scariest in my opinion. Allen right there close to them. You're getting nothing but "homer hatred" here ha ha. Josh is as scary but all 3 can vouch for that #1 spot. He didn't say "I'd trade Josh for Rodgers or Mahomes", calm down LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, cle23 said: That's like saying Allen should put up the same stats without Diggs. If Mahomes does the same without Hill, he's probably QB1 in the league. Diggs is the only stud Josh has. Mahomes still has Kelce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: You're getting nothing but "homer hatred" here ha ha. Josh is as scary but all 3 can vouch for that #1 spot. He didn't say "I'd trade Josh for Rodgers or Mahomes", calm down LOL Lol it’s all good. People are excited about JA with good reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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