billsfan_34 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Lets face it, our backs are not NFL caliber. Neither Singletary or Moss can hit the hole, get to the edge or break tackles. Moss, does on occasion, run over a few safeties here and there. I thought it was a big mistake this past offseason not getting a big bruising back with some burst, and tonight proved how bad we are at the position. We gave up 200 plus on the ground, and couldn’t run at all. This is on Beane. Playoffs??? Playoffs??? (Jim Mora). Edited December 7, 2021 by billsfan_34 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Moss is horrible and the fact he continues to get on the field and waste plays is mind blowing. Yet Isaiah McKenzie is inactive because this staff can’t figure out how to use him. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 The fact that Najee Harris who may just be offensive rookie of the year was just 5 picks from the bills pick still haunts me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Fire Daboll. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Not saying the Rbs cannot be upgraded by Contact happens behind the line al lot. And for some reason we don’t like to run outside much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Thing is that they've tried. They've addressed the issue in the draft and it's just not really working out. Be it scouting or our ability to develop or both, something's not working so I agree it's on Beane. Could have easily had Javonte Williams as far as the draft goes, he looks great. Moss is such a disappointment. I hate to admit it and wanted him to succeed but outside of some toughness he just looks so slow and painfully average out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, mattynh said: Not saying the Rbs cannot be upgraded by Contact happens behind the line al lot. And for some reason we don’t like to run outside much. We dont run outside because the RB’s lack speed to get to the edge. When holes open, our backs cannot hit them. Every RB gets tackled for a loss here and there, but the good ones make up for it. 8 minutes ago, Nelius said: Thing is that they've tried. They've addressed the issue in the draft and it's just not really working out. Be it scouting or our ability to develop or both, something's not working so I agree it's on Beane. Could have easily had Javonte Williams as far as the draft goes, he looks great. Moss is such a disappointment. I hate to admit it and wanted him to succeed but outside of some toughness he just looks so slow and painfully average out there. Both are subpar. Beane had a lovefest for Singletary and Moss would not even be value as a 6th round- he looks slow and fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: We dont run outside because the RB’s lack speed to get to the edge. When holes open, our backs cannot hit them. Every RB gets tackled for a loss here and there, but the good ones make up for it. Breida, jet action hand offs to wrs. I don’t agree. what happened to jet action? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 This isn't a running team, never was and never will be, until there's a regime change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, mattynh said: Breida, jet action hand offs to wrs. I don’t agree. what happened to jet action? Well, we tried that, and he fumbled. Not the best hand off, but Breida needs to adjust his hands. He is garbage too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Two thirds on Singletary and Moss… Waste 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, motorj said: This isn't a running team, never was and never will be, until there's a regime change It doesn't have to be a running team, though. It has to be a team with some effective running plays around our A+ QB and above average WR depth. We don't have that, there's no need to sugarcoat or fake like we do at this point. We just don't have a dynamic player at RB. Old Matt Breida isn't really it, we all knew that, even before the fumble tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, mattynh said: Not saying the Rbs cannot be upgraded by Contact happens behind the line al lot. And for some reason we don’t like to run outside much. Our backs are too slow to get to the edge with the exception of Breida Edited December 7, 2021 by VaMilBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 If your backs are slow, they better be powerful. If they are small, they better be McCoy like elusive and quick. Ours are neither. Oline needs replacements too. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 They've got two backs that are fine if there's a hole. But there are no holes. One of them is good enough to make his own holes in short yardage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsabillsfanz Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, mattynh said: Not saying the Rbs cannot be upgraded by Contact happens behind the line al lot. And for some reason we don’t like to run outside much. We don’t run outside much because our RBs lack of speed. Ironically, if Moss would’ve just made a simple cut outside to the right, he would’ve had a walk in TD. I like Beane, but he whiffed on both 3rd round RBs & compounded the problem by not addressing those mistakes this past draft/off season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I have no idea why we didn't put a waiver in for Philip Lindsay. Anything would be better than watching moss run 1 yard and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Simon said: They've got two backs that are fine if there's a hole. But there are no holes. One of them is good enough to make his own holes in short yardage. No. They f...ing suck worse then the oline. If they got cut no one would care. If Feliciano or Ford were cut they would be back ups minimum somewhere else. Did you see what the Titans rolled out there against NE last week and what those bums did. Essentially Tennessee's 4th and 5th RBs I think Foreman had been unemployed ran for over 100 as did Hilliard. Our RBs are the WORST position on the team. Horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Essentially Tennessee's 4th and 5th RBs I think Foreman had been unemployed ran for over 100 as did Hilliard. Gee, I wonder why that was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Thru the 90s, the drought, I have never known this team to be so awful at RB. Ever. If it isn't them then it's coaching and scheme. Then you're looking at the RB coach, Bobby Johnson, and Daboll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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