L Ron Burgundy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 The war is spilling onto Russian soil. Hopefully the mirage of Russian power will soon crumble. Could not happen fast enough. 8 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: In this case dithering is saving lives. Of Ukrainians. The new head of the Ukrainian army, Oleksandr Syrskyi, is known as “the butcher” by his own troops. “He will kill us all” said a Ukrainian soldier who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Ukrainian troops reportedly refer to the new commander of Ukraine’s ground forces as someone willing to put his troops in harm’s way to achieve his goals. Syrskyi, who was born in central Russia, is known for his “hard-driving Soviet-style” tactics. Born in central Russia! You might want to investigate this guy for ties to Putin. Really? Soldiers in danger? During a war? Man I thought it'd be like balet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Really? Soldiers in danger? During a war? Man I thought it'd be like balet. Missing the point, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Wow. It’s almost as if the best way to end the war without the complete destruction of Ukraine is to give them the ability to push Russia back and force them to the table. Bad break for the Neville Chamberlin caucus who have played into Russia’s hands and ensured the war will rage on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 46 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Wow. It’s almost as if the best way to end the war without the complete destruction of Ukraine is to give them the ability to push Russia back and force them to the table. Bad break for the Neville Chamberlin caucus who have played into Russia’s hands and ensured the war will rage on. The question is, absent direct NATO involvement in combat operations, what does anyone think we can supply that will push the Russians back? As the biggest issue is they're losing the war of attrition and running out of well-trained and capable combat soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The question is, absent direct NATO involvement in combat operations, what does anyone think we can supply that will push the Russians back? As the biggest issue is they're losing the war of attrition and running out of well-trained and capable combat soldiers. Yes. Which is why they need ample supplies of artillery ammunition and SAM ammunition. When Ukraine has these two things, Russian advances halt and Ukrainian casualties drop. Not exactly a huge ask, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 32 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Yes. Which is why they need ample supplies of artillery ammunition and SAM ammunition. When Ukraine has these two things, Russian advances halt and Ukrainian casualties drop. Not exactly a huge ask, no? I'm not sure. I expect any escalation will be met by escalation. While Putin can't be trusted he'll do everything necessary to end the conflict in his favor while not doing anything to embarrass Washington. A difficult balancing act. I also expect most Ukrainians are weary of the war and believe winning, as defined by recovering all lost territories, is no longer possible. I think if Zelensky didn't cancel the coming elections he would be in danger of losing the presidency. Recently dismissed military commander Valeriy Zaluzhniy is said to be a popular figure to both the military leadership and combat troops and civilians. Now, even more popular than Zelensky. Naming Zaluzhniy ambassador to the UK was Zelensky's way of getting a potential political rival out of the way without doing anything wildly stupid such as arresting or killing him. Which might lead to a military mutiny and the end of his reign. And then the new interim military government going to the bargaining table to end the conflict much to the dismay of US/NATO leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Pentagon Giving Ukraine $300 Million Without New Congressional Approval Back in December, the Pentagon announced that they had burned through all of the money designated to supply military aid to Ukraine, so future shipments would have to wait until Congress appropriated more funds. That hasn't happened because the House GOP is insisting that Joe Biden fix our borders before we blow even more cash on those of another country. Now, it would appear that Biden's patience is exhausted because the Pentagon is shipping another $300 million worth of weapons to Ukraine anyway. How are they doing that? They claim to have mysteriously "found some cost savings" in their contracts. But in reality, they've already spent $10 billion more than they were supposed to on Ukraine. So much for oversight, I suppose. (Associated Press) https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/03/13/pentagon-giving-ukraine-300-million-without-new-congressional-approval-n3784597 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/13/ukraine-war-live-updates-latest-news-on-russia-and-the-war-in-ukraine.html Oil prices rose around 2% Wednesday after production disruptions at several major oil refineries in Russia, following Ukrainian drone attacks. Two primary oil refining units were shut down in Rosneft’s biggest oil refinery in Ryazan on Wednesday after a fire caused by a drone attack, two sources familiar with the situation told Reuters. Rosneft has not commented on the incident. Meanwhile, operations at the Novoshakhtinsky oil products plant in the Rostov region were stopped after drones shot down by Russian air defenses fell on the facility, regional Governor Vasily Golubev said. Production was halted at another major refinery — Lukoil’s NORSI facility in the Nizhny Novgorod region —on Tuesday after a drone attack caused a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 20 hours ago, B-Man said: Pentagon Giving Ukraine $300 Million Without New Congressional Approval Back in December, the Pentagon announced that they had burned through all of the money designated to supply military aid to Ukraine, so future shipments would have to wait until Congress appropriated more funds. That hasn't happened because the House GOP is insisting that Joe Biden fix our borders before we blow even more cash on those of another country. Now, it would appear that Biden's patience is exhausted because the Pentagon is shipping another $300 million worth of weapons to Ukraine anyway. How are they doing that? They claim to have mysteriously "found some cost savings" in their contracts. But in reality, they've already spent $10 billion more than they were supposed to on Ukraine. So much for oversight, I suppose. (Associated Press) https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/03/13/pentagon-giving-ukraine-300-million-without-new-congressional-approval-n3784597 But Joke needs congress to do anything about the border. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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L Ron Burgundy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Free Russian battalions are attempting to take Belgorod. Smart move by Ukraine arming them. Russia has virtually nothing protecting their own lands. Not surprising. What madness will this cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Very serious country that we’re fighting a proxy war with.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 17 hours ago, SCBills said: Very serious country that we’re fighting a proxy war with.. So not only are you advertising NPC tweets from NPC twitter accounts, you're also advertising for Ukrainian pornstars? #nuance #criticalthinking But if you want to watch some serious video about the war, here's two squads of Russians getting mowed down by Bradleys and drones. There's no tweets or cleavage though, and it's very, very NSFW. You've been warned. Edited March 17 by Coffeesforclosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: So not only are you advertising NPC tweets from NPC twitter accounts, you're also advertising for Ukrainian pornstars? #nuance #criticalthinking But if you want to watch some serious video about the war, here's two squads of Russians getting mowed down by Bradleys and drones. There's no tweets or cleavage though, and it's very, very NSFW. You've been warned. Do you feel like a big man sending the fathers and sons of another country off to war on behalf of America and the West to fight a proxy war against Russia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Do you feel like a big man sending the fathers and sons of another country off to war on behalf of America and the West to fight a proxy war against Russia? Yes because the people of Ukraine have no free will. You post a clip of some goofball like what? It represents the whole country? Then this comment. Just plain dumb. But hey, if people like you didn't believe propaganda there probably wouldn't be any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yes because the people of Ukraine have no free will. You post a clip of some goofball like what? It represents the whole country? Then this comment. Just plain dumb. But hey, if people like you didn't believe propaganda there probably wouldn't be any. You speak for all Ukrainians? I don’t either, but there is clear evidence that plenty of men in that country don’t want to fight in this war, yet they are being forced to. All because America and our Western allies want to bleed Russia dry by using a country steeped in corruption to fight our war. You’re upset because I posted video of a pornstar being used to take pictures with their wounded? Do you get upset when anyone posts their trans spokesperson who had to be removed from their position for talking about “hunting down Russian propagandists” or the nonstop rolodex of Nazis? Because.. of course you would… and of course that’s a country our degenerate countries leaders would “support” i.e. use as sacrificial bodies for a Western war. Russia isn’t good either .. but at least I don’t pretend they are. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: You speak for all Ukrainians? I don’t either, but there is clear evidence that plenty of men in that country don’t want to fight in this war, yet they are being forced to. All because America and our Western allies want to bleed Russia dry by using a country steeped in corruption to fight our war. You’re upset because I posted video of a pornstar being used to take pictures with their wounded? Do you get upset when anyone posts their trans spokesperson who had to be removed from their position for talking about “hunting down Russian propagandists” or the nonstop rolodex of Nazis? Because.. of course you would… and of course that’s a country our degenerate countries leaders would “support” i.e. use as sacrificial bodies for a Western war. Russia isn’t good either .. but at least I don’t pretend they are. Another stupid person slapped down. grats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: You speak for all Ukrainians? I don’t either, but there is clear evidence that plenty of men in that country don’t want to fight in this war, yet they are being forced to. All because America and our Western allies want to bleed Russia dry by using a country steeped in corruption to fight our war. You’re upset because I posted video of a pornstar being used to take pictures with their wounded? Do you get upset when anyone posts their trans spokesperson who had to be removed from their position for talking about “hunting down Russian propagandists” or the nonstop rolodex of Nazis? Because.. of course you would… and of course that’s a country our degenerate countries leaders would “support” i.e. use as sacrificial bodies for a Western war. Russia isn’t good either .. but at least I don’t pretend they are. They didn't give a ***** about Ukraine when Barry gave up Crimea (after his election...). But since Trump wanted to investigate Joke for extorting them to fire a prosecutor looking into his idiot son's company, they love Ukraine now. I really am starting to believe that if Trump said that breathing was great, they'd strangle themselves... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, Doc said: They didn't give a ***** about Ukraine when Barry gave up Crimea (after his election...). But since Trump wanted to investigate Joke for extorting them to fire a prosecutor looking into his idiot son's company, they love Ukraine now. I really am starting to believe that if Trump said that breathing was great, they'd strangle themselves... I disagree, I think Ukraine is a democrat money laundering operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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