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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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3 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

I disagree, I think Ukraine is a democrat money laundering operation.

 

I agree.  The leaders profit and tell their supporters we need to keep sending money there.

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:


You speak for all Ukrainians?

 

I don’t either, but there is clear evidence that plenty of men in that country don’t want to fight in this war, yet they are being forced to. 
 

All because America and our Western allies want to bleed Russia dry by using a country steeped in corruption to fight our war.

 

You’re upset because I posted video of a pornstar being used to take pictures with their wounded?  Do you get upset when anyone posts their trans spokesperson who had to be removed from their position for talking about “hunting down Russian propagandists” or the nonstop rolodex of Nazis?  
 

Because.. of course you would… and of course that’s a country our degenerate countries leaders would “support” i.e. use as sacrificial bodies for a Western war. 
 

Russia isn’t good either .. but at least I don’t pretend they are. 

Pure stupidity.   

 

If you think they're odd because you saw a porn star online imagine what they think of us?  Or ex president hooked up with one while his wife was pregnant then paid her to stfu.

 

I mean, what kind of corrupt country would elect that kind of scum?

 

I object to the idea that they're fighting a war for us.  That's absurd on every levels. Oh you found a video where someone didn't want to fight?  Oh that must mean "plenty" object to the war, gotcha.  You know how I know that's wrong?  Because they're beating back a superpower with very little manpower assistance.

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Just now, L Ron Burgundy said:

Pure stupidity.   

 

If you think they're odd because you saw a porn star online imagine what they think of us?  Or ex president hooked up with one while his wife was pregnant then paid her to stfu.

 

I mean, what kind of corrupt country would elect that kind of scum?

 

I object to the idea that they're fighting a war for us.  That's absurd on every levels. Oh you found a video where someone didn't want to fight?  Oh that must mean "plenty" object to the war, gotcha.  You know how I know that's wrong?  Because they're beating back a superpower with very little manpower assistance.

 

Were you alive/following politics in the early-90s?

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1 hour ago, Unforgiven said:

Another stupid person slapped down. grats.

First, you wouldn't recognize a slap down if it happened in your face or maybe even to your face.  Second,  you certainly won't recognize stupid if you don't see it looking in the mirror every morning.   You haven't posted an intelligent syllable in this forum much less a sentence or idea. 

I can guarantee you know nothing about Russia and less about Ukraine. 

 

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

They didn't give a ***** about Ukraine when Barry gave up Crimea (after his election...).  But since Trump wanted to investigate Joke for extorting them to fire a prosecutor looking into his idiot son's company, they love Ukraine now.  I really am starting to believe that if Trump said that breathing was great, they'd strangle themselves...

I'm pretty sure quite a few of us have indicated that's a black mark on his record.  Also many of us have said Ukraine is far from a perfect country. 

 

I'll go farther, it's a corrupt shite hole.   But they are trying to break that cycle.   Westernization is not easy.  

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13 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

And a Hasek quality deflection there by Doc!

 

Not deflection.  Call it "whataboutism" if you wish.  The left lost any moral superiority on this issue when they put forth and elected Slick.  And then trotted him out to campaign for Hilly.

 

7 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

First, you wouldn't recognize a slap down if it happened in your face or maybe even to your face.  Second,  you certainly won't recognize stupid if you don't see it looking in the mirror every morning.   You haven't posted an intelligent syllable in this forum much less a sentence or idea. 

I can guarantee you know nothing about Russia and less about Ukraine. 

 

I'm pretty sure quite a few of us have indicated that's a black mark on his record.  Also many of us have said Ukraine is far from a perfect country. 

 

I'll go farther, it's a corrupt shite hole.   But they are trying to break that cycle.   Westernization is not easy.  

 

They've stolen billions of our money.

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24 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Don't forget to get out and vote for Putin you GQP'ers.  You won't have a country without him.  LOL

 

Versus voting for Ayatollah Khamenei? 

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28 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Versus voting for Ayatollah Khamenei? 

With you EVERYTHING has to be "whatabout", as if someone don't like one thing, they must love the other.  It's like a shield for the dumb things you do and believe in.  It's called polarization.  Just because I know Putin and Trump are bad doesn't mean I think Iran or Biden are good.  Some people are capable of independent thought outside the bubble.   The only thing that would even make me vote for Biden would be his opponent attempting to steal an election.  As soon as you read the word Trump, your medulla oblongata immediately responds with "Joke".  Try exploring other parts of your brain other than the alligator part.  

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Not deflection.  Call it "whataboutism" if you wish.  The left lost any moral superiority on this issue when they put forth and elected Slick.  And then trotted him out to campaign for Hilly.

 

 

They've stolen billions of our money.

Ah to live in a world where your beliefs need not be based in fact.  

38 minutes ago, daz28 said:

With you EVERYTHING has to be "whatabout", as if someone don't like one thing, they must love the other.  It's like a shield for the dumb things you do and believe in.  It's called polarization.  Just because I know Putin and Trump are bad doesn't mean I think Iran or Biden are good.  Some people are capable of independent thought outside the bubble.   The only thing that would even make me vote for Biden would be his opponent attempting to steal an election.  As soon as you read the word Trump, your medulla oblongata immediately responds with "Joke".  Try exploring other parts of your brain other than the alligator part.  

Too late, too old, too brainwashed.  

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4 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

I disagree, I think Ukraine is a democrat money laundering operation.

Washington is a giant washing machine with a giant green dollar sign on the front of it.  At least this money(mostly older equipment) is being used to fight an enemy.  You almost have to expect to lose a few billion/trillion when discussing the military/Pentagon.  Lucky for us, Trump wants to pump endless money into the military industrial complex, while finding ways to cut waste in "entitlements" we paid into our whole lives.  He feeds his sheep what they're hungry for. 

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57 minutes ago, daz28 said:

With you EVERYTHING has to be "whatabout", as if someone don't like one thing, they must love the other.  It's like a shield for the dumb things you do and believe in.  It's called polarization.  Just because I know Putin and Trump are bad doesn't mean I think Iran or Biden are good.  Some people are capable of independent thought outside the bubble.   The only thing that would even make me vote for Biden would be his opponent attempting to steal an election.  As soon as you read the word Trump, your medulla oblongata immediately responds with "Joke".  Try exploring other parts of your brain other than the alligator part.  

 

I know why you guys bristle at "whataboutism:" because it exposes your hypocrisy.  If you're going to call Trump Putin/lover, we'll call Joke an Iran/terrorist lover. 

 

But your indignation is noted.  And filed appropriately.

 

19 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ah to live in a world where your beliefs need not be based in fact. 

 

Sorry to break it to you but that's a fact.

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20 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I know why you guys bristle at "whataboutism:" because it exposes your hypocrisy.  If you're going to call Trump Putin/lover, we'll call Joke an Iran/terrorist lover. 

 

But your indignation is noted.  And filed appropriately.

 

 

"You guys"?  You're literally proving my point.  While some here may support Biden, Trump, Putin, and Iran, I support none of them.  Elections are the real Joke, and the only reason I'd vote for anyone is that they aren't trying to make my vote even more worthless than it already is.  I can only hope that people smarten up, and demand fair elections.  

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12 minutes ago, daz28 said:

"You guys"?  You're literally proving my point.  While some here may support Biden, Trump, Putin, and Iran, I support none of them.  Elections are the real Joke, and the only reason I'd vote for anyone is that they aren't trying to make my vote even more worthless than it already is.  I can only hope that people smarten up, and demand fair elections.  

 

Right.  You called Repubs "GQP'ers" didn't you?  What's your pet name for the Dems?

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15 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Right.  You called Repubs "GQP'ers" didn't you?  What's your pet name for the Dems?

Not all republicans are GQP'ers, but the fact they call actual republicans rino's is proof they exist.  For the umpteenth time, because I don't like the far right doesn't mean I have to believe the far left is as equally as bad.  They're bad too, but it's not even close. 

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4 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Not all republicans are GQP'ers, but the fact they call actual republicans rino's is proof they exist.  For the umpteenth time, because I don't like the far right doesn't mean I have to believe the far left is as equally as bad.  They're bad too, but it's not even close. 

 

The far left are loonies, have taken over the Dem party and are far worse.  We're seeing the effects of it daily and it's why the majority of people say the country is on the wrong path.

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6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The far left are loonies, have taken over the Dem party and are far worse.  We're seeing the effects of it daily and it's why the majority of people say the country is on the wrong path.

I think most Americans want the same things, but they also know that neither candidate or party is going to deliver for them.  The democrats are starting to smarten up, but you seem to hold that against them.  Not Trump, Biden or Congress is even close to having favorability over unfavourability.  The division we see in our country and right here on these boards works in their favor, though.  

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