Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: I meant no, not a team moving, an actual expansion team In that case it would have to be 2 new teams. Like back in the day with Jags and Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: In that case it would have to be 2 new teams. Like back in the day with Jags and Panthers You'd think so, but if they had to make it only St Louis, I am pretty sure they would figure out a way to make it work to avoid billions of dollars in payments Edited October 28, 2021 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, hmsmystic said: I don't you are correct at all- Here's the lowest tickets to the Cardinals game by me. The lowest Dude, that's the Cardinals, who are a 7-0 top tier team ... playing the Packers. I'm referring to the other 2/3 of the league. Ticket prices are low for mid to low tier teams. Time to reduce the league by 2 teams minimally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: You'd think so, but if they had to make it only St Louis, I am pretty sure they would figure out a way to make it work to avoid billions of dollars in payments Wouldn't make any sense though. Either AFC or NFC would have an extra team than other Conference. Would have to be 2 teams so 1 in AFC other NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: NFL attorney told the owners the ultimate number could be more than the net worth of some of them in the room... A warning shot for any other team owners attempting to move and something every other city will be looking to emulate and threaten that team with to prevent it from happening. NFL likely going to offer St Louis an expansion team to try and make the case go away... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-braces-billion-dollar-exposure-225444083.html OH there's more fun than that. Kroenke signed an indemnification agreement to cover the legal costs to other teams if they let him move. Now he wants out: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32486646/los-angeles-rams-owner-stan-kroenke-angers-nfl-owners-financial-pivot-related-lawsuit-st-louis-move-sources-say Quote Then, in an unusual move, Goodell asked Kroenke to leave the room, sources told ESPN. He did. That's when Pash told the room that the league was notified by Kroenke's attorneys that Kroenke is challenging the indemnification agreement that all three teams involved in the L.A. derby in 2016 -- the Rams, Chargers and Raiders -- signed on the morning of the vote. Quote Sources said the room seemed stunned by Pash's update on Kroenke's view of the indemnification agreement. Quote Next came Kraft, who sources said seemed to speak for many in the room that Kroenke's position was unfair. He mentioned all the legal hassle he had gone through. In 2016, he had served on a six-person L.A. committee. He argued that if providing financial records as a result of lawsuits would be a consequence of serving on league committees, it would dissuade other owners from wanting to be on committees and making consequential decisions for the league. Raiders owner Mark Davis reminded the room that, in 2016, the L.A. committee recommended a rival Raiders-Chargers stadium project in Carson, California, by a 5-1 vote over Kroenke's project in Inglewood. Mara spoke next and said that Kroenke's change in position was ridiculous and that if Kroenke had not agreed to indemnify the league, the owners wouldn't have voted for him to move. He said anyone who was in the room in Houston when the vote was taken would know that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Dude, that's the Cardinals, who are a 7-0 top tier team ... playing the Packers. I'm referring to the other 2/3 of the league. Ticket prices are low for mid to low tier teams. Time to reduce the league by 2 teams minimally. The real money for the NFL is from TV. More teams, more games, more commercials, more money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 St. Louis has them bent over. They’re gonna get a team and a stadium paid for. Would the city sell or continue ownership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I guess the Rams could always go back, but all three of there fans in LA would be real sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: St. Louis has them bent over. They’re gonna get a team and a stadium paid for. Would the city sell or continue ownership? If they do get one there I can't see it being a new expansion team. A team like the Jags or something or any team looking to relocate I think will be how it plays out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Wouldn't make any sense though. Either AFC or NFC would have an extra team than other Conference. Would have to be 2 teams so 1 in AFC other NFC. Again...how much sense it makes is irrelevant if it saves the NFL billions of dollars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 There do not HAVE to be two new teams added at the same time. When the Browns were re-created in 1999, there were 31 teams in the league. It wasn't until Houston got a new team that the number went to 32. Certainly it's easier for scheduling to have an even number, I'm just saying they had an odd number for a couple of years and things worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Did St. Louis support the Rams post the Greatest Show on Turf years? I just see an Atlanta Flames/Atlanta Thrashers type of situation, where they keep trying to put a team there, there's no support, and the team moves. Rinse, repeat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OH there's more fun than that. Kroenke signed an indemnification agreement to cover the legal costs to other teams if they let him move. Now he wants out: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32486646/los-angeles-rams-owner-stan-kroenke-angers-nfl-owners-financial-pivot-related-lawsuit-st-louis-move-sources-say Kroenke is about to double cross the wrong people. Bette hope he doesn't have any emails an anonymous source can "leak" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Again...how much sense it makes is irrelevant if it saves the NFL billions of dollars. I get what you mean. I'm saying I just don't see any way it could work with only 1 team. Unless they just say hell with it and make it unfair adding a team to one particular division and conference. I just don't see it. A team relocating makes more sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I get what you mean. I'm saying I just don't see any way it could work with only 1 team. Unless they just say hell with it and make it unfair adding a team to one particular division and conference. I just don't see it. A team relocating makes more sense. They already did it when the Browns entered the league as an expansion team an had an odd number of teams for a few years. Of course they can make it work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: They already did it when the Browns entered the league as an expansion team an had an odd number of teams for a few years. Of course they can make it work. Yeah but since then they made it even for a reason, (why Jags and Panthers came along together). It was made so each division and Conference has the same amount of competition which is fair to every team. Edited October 28, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just make Kroenke sell the team to Bon Jovi. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Dude, that's the Cardinals, who are a 7-0 top tier team ... playing the Packers. I'm referring to the other 2/3 of the league. Ticket prices are low for mid to low tier teams. Time to reduce the league by 2 teams minimally. Tickets aren't how the league makes money anymore. Your argument is a few decades old. It's all about the TV revenue and the league is making stupid money there. 3 hours ago, Utah John said: The real money for the NFL is from TV. More teams, more games, more commercials, more money. Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) St. Louis has such a tiny downtown area. You can drive through it in 1 minute. I understand it’s suburbia hell and quite dangerous but that doesn’t qualify for a new team. I would probably give Oregon a team. Put a stadium in Eugene. Edited October 28, 2021 by Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Probably time to pull the trigger on London. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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