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1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

Lol, you people are hilarious. 

 

God forbid you acknowledge the quality Qb play from the team in the thread specifically designed to talk about it. 

 

You must hate Allen if you think another Qb is better...lmao. 

Let's see him do it in the wind and rain.

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1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

Lol, you people are hilarious. 

 

God forbid you acknowledge the quality Qb play from the team in the thread specifically designed to talk about it. 

 

You must hate Allen if you think another Qb is better...lmao. 

you the one who low key trollin and feels the need to state Herbert is better than Allen every chance u can on a Bills forum lol, which makes little sense

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Just now, TwistofFate said:

Lol, you people are hilarious. 

 

God forbid you acknowledge the quality Qb play from the team in the thread specifically designed to talk about it. 

 

You must hate Allen if you think another Qb is better...lmao. 


I don’t see anyone trashing Herbert; quite the contrary.  You’re the one BOASTING that he’s on another level compared to your QB.  I guess you expect Bills fans to oblige your expertise (especially when we all know you’re not a huge fan of Allen).

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2 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:


I don’t see anyone trashing Herbert; quite the contrary.  You’re the one BOASTING that he’s on another level compared to your QB.  I guess you expect Bills fans to oblige your expertise (especially when we all know you’re not a huge fan of Allen).

NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2020)

PFWA All-Rookie Team (2020)

William V. Campbell Trophy (2019)

2020 Senior Bowl MVP

2020 Rose Bowl Offensive MVP

3x Academic All-American (2017–2019)[1]

NFL records

Most total TDs by a rookie quarterback: 36

Most passing TDs by a rookie quarterback: 31

Most completions by a rookie quarterback: 396

Most 300-yard games by a rookie quarterback: 8

 

 

Yea, he is. 

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Herbert is very Josh Allen-like, no doubt.  Similar arms, but Herbert is more accurate.  Josh carries more swag and is special as a runner in a way that Herbert lacks (though, he's no slouch either).  I like our guy a little more based on intangibles and personality, but it's not as if a legitimate argument can't be made for taking Herbert.

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Just now, TwistofFate said:

NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2020)

PFWA All-Rookie Team (2020)

William V. Campbell Trophy (2019)

2020 Senior Bowl MVP

2020 Rose Bowl Offensive MVP

3x Academic All-American (2017–2019)[1]

NFL records

Most total TDs by a rookie quarterback: 36

Most passing TDs by a rookie quarterback: 31

Most completions by a rookie quarterback: 396

Most 300-yard games by a rookie quarterback: 8

 

 

Yea, he is. 

And it's not boasting at all.  I stated what I stated.  If you can't comprehend it that's on you. 

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4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2020)

PFWA All-Rookie Team (2020)

William V. Campbell Trophy (2019)

2020 Senior Bowl MVP

2020 Rose Bowl Offensive MVP

3x Academic All-American (2017–2019)[1]

NFL records

Most total TDs by a rookie quarterback: 36

Most passing TDs by a rookie quarterback: 31

Most completions by a rookie quarterback: 396

Most 300-yard games by a rookie quarterback: 8

 

 

Yea, he is. 

ignoring the really stupid stuff, Josh was sure in a position to compete in his rookie year with his surrounding cast....also who cares neither are in their rookie year anymore.

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Just now, Warcodered said:

ignoring the really stupid stuff, Josh was sure in a position to compete in his rookie year with his surrounding cast....also who cares neither are in there rookie year anymore.

By all means, feel free to compare them this year. 

 

I'll also state again as I already have....im completely happy with Allen thus far, I just think Herbert is better. 

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4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2020)

PFWA All-Rookie Team (2020)

William V. Campbell Trophy (2019)

2020 Senior Bowl MVP

2020 Rose Bowl Offensive MVP

3x Academic All-American (2017–2019)[1]

NFL records

Most total TDs by a rookie quarterback: 36

Most passing TDs by a rookie quarterback: 31

Most completions by a rookie quarterback: 396

Most 300-yard games by a rookie quarterback: 8

 

 

Yea, he is. 

Yes. Herbert was better as a rookie than Josh was as a rookie.  But that's not the comparison that matters.  It's about who is better right now. 

 

Even with all those stats you posted, Josh still had a better head to head year than Herbert last year.  Higher completion %, more TDs, more yards, more 300+ yard games (9), higher QBR, more regular season wins and two playoff victories.

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4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

By all means, feel free to compare them this year. 

 

I'll also state again as I already have....im completely happy with Allen thus far, I just think Herbert is better. 

Okay Allen has led a Bills team that has scored north of 130 points, and Herbert has gotten his Chargers into the 90s, so Allen. Well that wasn't too hard.

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4 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

By all means, feel free to compare them this year. 

 

I'll also state again as I already have....im completely happy with Allen thus far, I just think Herbert is better. 

Josh Allen made it to more playoffs than Herbert.

 

Josh Allen is 1-0 vs Herbert head to head. 

 

Josh Allen has won more playoff games than Herbert. 

 

Josh Allen has won more regular season games than Herbert.

 

Your Chargers need to make the playoffs.

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34 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

After tonight a second year guy who's not even being talked about as an MVP, will be better than or equal to Allen in nearly every single passing Stat. 

 

Ive given plenty of praise to Allen, you can search my post history. 

 

The bottom line is Herbert in year two looks phenomenal. 


I told some friends this a few weeks ago… but Herbert could end up being the best QB of this “generation” of QB’s— better than even Mahomes. 

 

Great blend of poise, accuracy, smarts, release, etc.

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