SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 This was trending on Twitter, and it seems many people, on both sides of the aisle, agree. Of course, this will never happen, but in the era of Trump and Pandemic Politics, I think we’ve entered a stage where our differences are no longer tenable. I couldn’t imagine how people on the left could hate Trump so much. Some of it is still over the top… but now I kind of get it, because the hatred I have for Biden is something I constantly have to check myself on - because I truly don’t feel like it’s healthy to hold contempt like that. We no longer have “policy differences”…. Our differences are should kids be forced to wear masks all day, should unvaxxed people be allowed jobs, air travel and healthcare…. It’s free society vs restrictive society, and those two ideals are not compatible. Im all for this. I moved down south a few years ago, and now realize that I could never move back to NY. Half this country can be for higher taxes, more government programs, anytime abortion, progressive education, mask mandates, vax mandates, looser borders and gun control. The other half will, of course, have the opposite views. And we can be allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Probably about 75% of the wealth and talent would be in the Blue country. The Red country would be poor, ignorant and dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Probably about 75% of the wealth and talent would be in the Blue country. The Red country would be poor, ignorant and dirty As long as you keep billstime on youre side we are all good 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, TSOL said: As long as you keep billstime on youre side we are all good No problem there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 It’s become the Responsible Party vs. the Irresponsible Party. Vaxed vs. Unvaxed Policy vs. Grievance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Probably about 75% of the wealth and talent would be in the Blue country. The Red country would be poor, ignorant and dirty No,the inner cities would be the poor and lazy. Looking for free handouts without working. Yeah, that’s gonna work out real well. Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, SCBills said: This was trending on Twitter, and it seems many people, on both sides of the aisle, agree. Of course, this will never happen, but in the era of Trump and Pandemic Politics, I think we’ve entered a stage where our differences are no longer tenable. I couldn’t imagine how people on the left could hate Trump so much. Some of it is still over the top… but now I kind of get it, because the hatred I have for Biden is something I constantly have to check myself on - because I truly don’t feel like it’s healthy to hold contempt like that. We no longer have “policy differences”…. Our differences are should kids be forced to wear masks all day, should unvaxxed people be allowed jobs, air travel and healthcare…. It’s free society vs restrictive society, and those two ideals are not compatible. Im all for this. I moved down south a few years ago, and now realize that I could never move back to NY. Half this country can be for higher taxes, more government programs, anytime abortion, progressive education, mask mandates, vax mandates, looser borders and gun control. The other half will, of course, have the opposite views. And we can be allies. Most Red States could never survive on their own - they barely do now without federal funding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Most Red States could never survive on their own - they barely do now without federal funding. How much money would the red states save not having to pay for all of the deadbeats the blue states have? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Governor said: It’s become the Responsible Party vs. the Irresponsible Party. Vaxed vs. Unvaxed Policy vs. Grievance Demented vs Not Demented 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Probably about 75% of the wealth and talent would be in the Blue country. The Red country would be poor, ignorant and dirty Given the migration of corporations to Florida, Texas, Georgia and South Carolina for lower taxes, I’m not so sure about that. Small businesses would most assuredly flourish in a red country. Performing arts talent and the tech industry would definitely reside in blue country. Lots of blue cities in red/purple states seem to be doing ok as they’re held in check by red governors or legislature - but the blue cities in blue states are not exactly flourishing at the moment. Id expect much of blue country would begin looking like NYC, Portland, Seattle, San Fran, LA etc… maybe that’s your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: How much money would the red states save not having to pay for all of the deadbeats the blue states have? Go do some research and find out... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: How much money would the red states save not having to pay for all of the deadbeats the blue states have? They would lose since red states don’t contribute any money to the pie. They would basically just have to wing it with tourism. There’s no industry. Its more like, what would blue states “save” by not having to support red states? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Governor said: They would lose since red states don’t contribute any money to the pie. They would basically just have to wing it with tourism. There’s no industry. Its more like, what would blue states “save” by not having to support red states? Both would have their fair share of issues, but you’re just flat out ignoring the migration of people and business to red states over the past few years. Blue country would basically be California unchecked. What do you do with your southern border? What do you do about crime? What will be your tax code to pay for government programs, especially given the mass foreign migration your people would want? What would be the acceptable role of law enforcement? I know how red country would legislate on these issues, and it’s sustainable. I don’t know how blue country settles these issues, given the whims of what would be its residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 When we have morons like this I am thinking two countries might not be that bad. What A Mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Both would have their fair share of issues, but you’re just flat out ignoring the migration of people and business to red states over the past few years. Blue country would basically be California unchecked. What do you do with your southern border? What do you do about crime? What will be your tax code to pay for government programs, especially given the mass foreign migration your people would want? What would be the acceptable role of law enforcement? I know how red country would legislate on these issues, and it’s sustainable. I don’t know how blue country settles these issues, given the whims of what would be its residents. I know exactly what would happen with the border. Red states would let them pile in and go back to slavery. They would have no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Governor said: I know exactly what would happen with the border. Red states would let them pile in and go back to slavery. They would have no choice. Are there any left leaning posters on this board that are serious people? Edited September 17, 2021 by SCBills 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, SCBills said: Are there any left leaning posters on this board that are serious people? yes, im left leaning. ive just been forced to vote red because of this nonsense 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Are there any left leaning posters on this board that are serious people? SC wouldn’t last 10 years if that actually happened. What are they supposed to do? They don’t contribute anything. BMW would pack up and leave. It would be a total mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Governor said: SC wouldn’t last 10 years if that actually happened. What are they supposed to do? They don’t contribute anything. BMW would pack up and leave. It would be a total mess. Why would BMW pack up and leave? South Carolina also has a Michelin HQ as well as Boeing. And, yes, the tourism industry as previously mentioned. South Carolina currently has two of the fastest growing areas in the country… Greenville and Charleston. Edited September 17, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Why would BMW pack up and leave? South Carolina also has a Michelin HQ as well as Boeing. And, yes, the tourism industry as previously mentioned. South Carolina currently has two of the fastest growing cities in the country… Greenville and Charleston. In your scenario, businesses would be forced to pick sides or they wouldn’t be able to do business with the north. Other than Bob Jones University, Greenville would be empty in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Beach said: yes, im left leaning. ive just been forced to vote red because of this nonsense You're in a plane crash in the wilderness. With no chance of being rescued for 10 to 12 months. You can get on one of two planes. The first plane is full of red state people. People with hard life skills, farmers, hunters, military vets, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, and construction people, and other people with basic skills and more conservative views. The second plane is full of blue state people. Bankers, entertainers and artists, sociologists, women, race, and gender studies majors, web app designers, people on welfare and social assistance. You want to maximize your chances of survival. Which plane do you get on? See, the problem with Silvermans's idea is the majority Blue state people she represents generally have no life or basic survival skills or the knowledge or ability to keep the fundamental elements of civilization working. Most of them would die in the first 3 months. The rest might start to figure it out. Keeping things working like the water supply, electricity, the communications systems, roads and bridges, garbage pick up. All that stuff they take for granted that are performed by the deplorables. When your power goes out in the middle of the night I suspect its not a crew of hard core Biden supporters rolling out to get it back on. Edited September 17, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Governor said: In your scenario, businesses would be forced to pick sides or they wouldn’t be able to do business with the north. Other than Bob Jones University, Greenville would be empty in 5 years. The scenario put forth assumes USA 1 and USA 2 as allies, so it would be an EU of sorts. No reason why one side would stop doing business with the other side. Even if we went with your scenario… why does it only go one way? Would Salesforce be Salesforce if they lose half their customers and are forced to solely reside in a high crime/high tax area… they moved into Texas and Georgia for a reason. Lots of corps also play the social justice game for self preservation. Non-tech companies wouldn’t care about this stuff in a red country that prioritizes performance over diversity quotas and shallow messaging. Nevermind the tax advantages and loosening of red tape they’d receive in a red country. Plenty of corps would choose red. They aren’t as progressive as you hope … Most are progressive insofar it relates to the bottom line. Edited September 17, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: The scenario put forth assumes USA 1 and USA 2 as allies, so it would be an EU of sorts. No reason why one side would stop doing business with the other side. Even if we went with your scenario… why does it only go one way? Would Salesforce be Salesforce if they lose half their customers and are forced to solely reside in a high crime/high tax area… they moved into Texas and Atlanta for a reason. Lots of corps also play the social justice game for self preservation. Non-tech companies wouldn’t care about this stuff in a red country that prioritizes performance over diversity quotas and shallow messaging. Basically, every item/product all the way down the line comes from a blue state. People in rural areas would absolutely starve. Their feed, tractor, supplies, tools, etc. all comes from blue states. How would they get these items? Through the port of Wilmington, NC? Lol. Edited September 17, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, SCBills said: This was trending on Twitter, and it seems many people, on both sides of the aisle, agree. Of course, this will never happen, but in the era of Trump and Pandemic Politics, I think we’ve entered a stage where our differences are no longer tenable. I couldn’t imagine how people on the left could hate Trump so much. Some of it is still over the top… but now I kind of get it, because the hatred I have for Biden is something I constantly have to check myself on - because I truly don’t feel like it’s healthy to hold contempt like that. We no longer have “policy differences”…. Our differences are should kids be forced to wear masks all day, should unvaxxed people be allowed jobs, air travel and healthcare…. It’s free society vs restrictive society, and those two ideals are not compatible. Im all for this. I moved down south a few years ago, and now realize that I could never move back to NY. Half this country can be for higher taxes, more government programs, anytime abortion, progressive education, mask mandates, vax mandates, looser borders and gun control. The other half will, of course, have the opposite views. And we can be allies. We made a compromise on slavery to form this amazing country but masks will be our undoing. “Proud to be an American…” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Governor said: Basically, every item/product all the way down the line comes from a blue state. People in rural areas would absolutely starve. Their feed, tractor, supplies, tools, etc. all comes from blue states. Which is why it would be a union, as the inverse goes for blue country when all the farmers (who give you food) and truckers (who transport you food) leave blue country for red country. 6 minutes ago, Sundancer said: We made a compromise on slavery to form this amazing country but masks will be our undoing. “Proud to be an American…” Masks, agreed… thats quite petty to ever even joke about dividing the country in two. Vax mandates, and the way Dem voters/politicians speak about it… never seen anything like it in my life. Edited September 17, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Which is why it would be a union, as the inverse goes for blue states when all the farmers (who give you food) and truckers (who transport you food) leave blue country for red country. I sure would like to give it a try! It still wouldn’t work because red states are the welfare/poorest states and they wouldn’t get federal dollars from blue states. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're in a plane crash in the wilderness. With no chance of being rescued for 10 to 12 months. You can get on one of two planes. The first plane is full of red state people. People with hard life skills, farmers, hunters, military vets, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, and construction people, and other people with basic skills and more conservative views. The second plane is full of blue state people. Bankers, entertainers and artists, sociologists, women, race, and gender studies majors, web app designers, people on welfare and social assistance. You want to maximize your chances of survival. Which plane do you get on? See, the problem with Silvermans's idea is the majority Blue state people she represents generally have no life or basic survival skills or the knowledge or ability to keep the fundamental elements of civilization working. Most of them would die in the first 3 months. The rest might start to figure it out. Keeping things working like the water supply, electricity, the communications systems, roads and bridges, garbage pick up. All that stuff they take for granted that are performed by the deplorables. When your power goes out in the middle of the night I suspect its not a crew of hard core Biden supporters rolling out to get it back on. Lol. Who do you think built everything in the south? It sure as hell wasn’t southerners! The trades were always far superior in the north and always will be. To answer your question, I would look for the group carrying around a bunch of little suitcases and wearing neat watches. Ok, these are your Jewish bankers, clock/watch makers, gem dealers, etc. I would get on that plane with them. That’s my people. Edited September 17, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: Which is why it would be a union, as the inverse goes for blue country when all the farmers (who give you food) and truckers (who transport you food) leave blue country for red country. Masks, agreed… thats quite petty to ever even joke about dividing the country in two. Vax mandates, and the way Dem voters/politicians speak about it… never seen anything like it in my life. 50 years ago we held a lottery to kill young boys for no reason. Seems like a bigger deal than mask mandates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 The Divided States of America has a real nice ring to it too, Lets go DSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Sundancer said: 50 years ago we held a lottery to kill young boys for no reason. Seems like a bigger deal than mask mandates. Why do you keep harping on mask mandates? I’ve already said that’s petty. Telling me, an unvaccinated person who works out 5x a week, takes care of myself and had covid already, that I must get vaccinated or be subjected to various levels of punitive action ranging from: Forced resignation from a job, to air travel bans, to (in many prominent lib circles) denial of healthcare and now, plausibility of eviction, is where I begin to think we’re just better off not being forced to cohabitate. Edited September 17, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Governor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I would like to propose a trade. I will give you Wisconsin for Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 So it will be the Confederate states of 'Merica vs the Communist Republic of North Mexico. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Politics aside, how does a plane take off in the wilderness? I guess I'm less political and more aviation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Politics aside, how does a plane take off in the wilderness? I guess I'm less political and more aviation. That's probably why it crashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, SCBills said: This was trending on Twitter, and it seems many people, on both sides of the aisle, agree. Of course, this will never happen, but in the era of Trump and Pandemic Politics, I think we’ve entered a stage where our differences are no longer tenable. I couldn’t imagine how people on the left could hate Trump so much. Some of it is still over the top… but now I kind of get it, because the hatred I have for Biden is something I constantly have to check myself on - because I truly don’t feel like it’s healthy to hold contempt like that. We no longer have “policy differences”…. Our differences are should kids be forced to wear masks all day, should unvaxxed people be allowed jobs, air travel and healthcare…. It’s free society vs restrictive society, and those two ideals are not compatible. Im all for this. I moved down south a few years ago, and now realize that I could never move back to NY. Half this country can be for higher taxes, more government programs, anytime abortion, progressive education, mask mandates, vax mandates, looser borders and gun control. The other half will, of course, have the opposite views. And we can be allies. 100%- I’ll go on the side that supports capitalism, business especially small businesses and wants to grow the economy, discourages lazy deadbeats and refuses to subsidize people who don’t want to work their fair share. as for social issues. love who you want to love, be who you want to be, live how you want to live. And no to paying princely elite salaries to elites to control me i really love this idea. The sad irony is the socialist elite think they don’t need the producers and workers to make their utopia happen. Germany is a fantastic case study on this topic. Edited September 18, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Governor said: I would like to propose a trade. I will give you Wisconsin for Maine. 😂 do you promise to keep Jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albwan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 7 hours ago, SCBills said: Are there any left leaning posters on this board that are serious people? ...is how I imagine them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 😂 do you promise to keep Jersey? Do I have to keep south Jersey? Scranton, Pa. will be the nation’s capitol. That’s where Uncle Joe will live. You have to take Staten Island. That’s non-negotiable. Edited September 18, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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