The Frankish Reich Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: all that Super PAC money just wasted It'll be an interesting campaign post-mortem. DeSantis decided that Trump was done. What losing candidate since Adlai Stevenson (Nixon? But there was a gap there) gets a second chance? Plus it ended about as badly as any living presidency in history. So why not run as Trump 2.0, a younger and less damaged version? That should rocket you to the top of the Republican Primary field, then you can tack to the center for the general. All well and good until Donald threw his hat back into the ring and we found out that yeah, there is a Cult of Trump and it is personal, not policy based. So what to do? Well, there's that whole Rest of the Field polling somewhere between 2 and 10 percent. You could try to emerge as the leading anti-Trump candidate, then hope that Trump implodes (still could happen, but very unlikely). But he's been unwilling to do that. So you have a Trump sycophant running against the master himself. Who needs that? Turn out a solid 10 percent need or want that. Toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: Meatball reminds me of Jeb! Bush His campaign was propped up by heavy money from the lobbyists but the people thought he was a stiff, stale, douche all along. That's DeSantis. Jeb! no longer works in politics and that's where Meatball is headed, just another lawyer.. Ron is young, and obviously has political talent. His mistake (for someone as ambitious as he is) was to go for it this year rather than waiting (hoping) for Trump to lose again and finally be out of his way. That also forced him to concentrate on silliness like the anti-woke stuff instead of actual concrete policy accomplishments. Young man in a hurry = damaged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 DeSaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 The cult lies about everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 6:21 PM, BillStime said: DeSaster You seem to have a hard time with the meaning of words. These books are not banned, only an illiterate person would argue such, they are simply not available to young children. Why is it important to you that my 14 year old students have access to pornography? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: You seem to have a hard time with the meaning of words. These books are not banned, only an illiterate person would argue such, they are simply not available to young children. Why is it important to you that my 14 year old students have access to pornography? It's for low intelligence libs. They eat that ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 23 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: You seem to have a hard time with the meaning of words. These books are not banned, only an illiterate person would argue such, they are simply not available to young children. Why is it important to you that my 14 year old students have access to pornography? Do they have a phone? Congrats, they have access to pornography. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Roundybout said: Do they have a phone? Congrats, they have access to pornography. 8 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said: yeah duh floridians are dumb. And they are dolphin fans Sometimes it is hard to take you guys seriously. A parent has to choose to give their children a phone, and there are phone filters and phones where kids can only contact sites and numbers that are pre-approved. Did you think that literally all teens have phones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Sometimes it is hard to take you guys seriously. A parent has to choose to give their children a phone, and there are phone filters and phones where kids can only contact sites and numbers that are pre-approved. Did you think that literally all teens have phones? Sometimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Did you think that literally all teens have phones? No, only 91 percent at age 14. There's 9 percent who have to rely on spanking it to library books. https://childmind.org/article/when-should-you-get-your-kid-a-phone/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: No, only 91 percent at age 14. There's 9 percent who have to rely on spanking it to library books. https://childmind.org/article/when-should-you-get-your-kid-a-phone/ Why have pornographic books available to children in a school library? Can you and/or hawk answer that simple question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Why have pornographic books Depends on what you call "pornographic books," doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Depends on what you call "pornographic books," doesn't it? Would you say books that contain explicit sexual content should be allowed in elementary and middle schools? Would you want your 4th grader coming home from school with one of these books in their backpack? No one is banning these books, they can still be written, published and distributed, just not available in a school library/ You get that, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Would you say books that contain explicit sexual content should be allowed in elementary and middle schools? Would you want your 4th grader coming home from school with one of these books in their backpack? No one is banning these books, they can still be written, published and distributed, just not available in a school library/ You get that, right? I've said it before here. Several times. I believe it is a LOCAL issue to be decided by every LOCAL community. Not by Ron DeSantis. I have no problem with LOCAL school boards and library committees deciding what books are available in their libraries and what age/grade restrictions they place on circulation. Miami Beach is not Sarasota is not Tallahassee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Sometimes it is hard to take you guys seriously. A parent has to choose to give their children a phone, and there are phone filters and phones where kids can only contact sites and numbers that are pre-approved. Did you think that literally all teens have phones? It’s obvious just about every raving liby on here doesn’t have kids of their own. Take the silver lining that Darwin is doing good work here, now if we can only they’d stop telling other people what to do with their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've said it before here. Several times. I believe it is a LOCAL issue to be decided by every LOCAL community. Not by Ron DeSantis. I have no problem with LOCAL school boards and library committees deciding what books are available in their libraries and what age/grade restrictions they place on circulation. Miami Beach is not Sarasota is not Tallahassee. Aaah I see, so then you would agree that schools should also get their finances from the communities they are in and not rely on state funds. Got ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've said it before here. Several times. I believe it is a LOCAL issue to be decided by every LOCAL community. Not by Ron DeSantis. I have no problem with LOCAL school boards and library committees deciding what books are available in their libraries and what age/grade restrictions they place on circulation. Miami Beach is not Sarasota is not Tallahassee. why is this even a topic? School libraries are tremendous wastes of resources in 2023. where are the environmentalists touting how many trees we could save. Do a couple field trips to the public library and have a virtual library where parents can approve or reject check out requests. We’re done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've said it before here. Several times. I believe it is a LOCAL issue to be decided by every LOCAL community. Not by Ron DeSantis. I have no problem with LOCAL school boards and library committees deciding what books are available in their libraries and what age/grade restrictions they place on circulation. Miami Beach is not Sarasota is not Tallahassee. Who determines the curriculum, and the learning metrics, and the standardized testing? In my state, it's the state. Does your state have a superintendent of public instruction? What's their job? You can't simply pull out of the equation one factor. Education is normally mandated in state constitutions, not local law. Local school boards are governed by state statutes and are normally audited by state auditors to determine compliance. How do you feel about the feds dictating men in women sports and men in women bathrooms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Aaah I see, so then you would agree that schools should also get their finances from the communities they are in and not rely on state funds. Got ya. I have no idea what this has to do with funding. If you like this kind of top-down stuff ("we give you the money, we dictate what you can do!") you are presumably all for federal DOE control too. Leave local communities to decide what's best for them. 16 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Who determines the curriculum, and the learning metrics, and the standardized testing? In my state, it's the state. Does your state have a superintendent of public instruction? What's their job? You can't simply pull out of the equation one factor. Education is normally mandated in state constitutions, not local law. Local school boards are governed by state statutes and are normally audited by state auditors to determine compliance. How do you feel about the feds dictating men in women sports and men in women bathrooms? More irrelevance. The standard curriculum is the standard curriculum, it is not what kids read when they check out books from a school library. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: No, only 91 percent at age 14. There's 9 percent who have to rely on spanking it to library books. https://childmind.org/article/when-should-you-get-your-kid-a-phone/ My daughter has a phone but it is only available to use when she is in the main portion of our house, so she knows while we don't generally listen in we could, and whatever she is doing online is tracked. The fact that you guys believe that because some parents suck that all kids should be allowed to access porn without a parents knowledge all for politics proves how disturbed you are 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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