Georgia election laws and MLB

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Its been pointed out elsewhere that MLB has no issue with voting rights in places like China and Cuba as they are more interested in loot than votes in those places.  What do my liberal friends here have to say about that inconsistency?  Or is your outrage confined to the domestic front? 

Recent polls show 72% of American voters agree that identification should be required to vote much like to board a plane or in my state to buy cough medicine at the grocery store.   A majority of voters considering themselves to be Democrats, Republicans, and Independents all polled a majority for each group.  So shouldn't democracy prevail?

I've also seen comparisons of the Georgia law to other states where 19 other states are more restrictive including the Presidents home state of Delaware.  You'd expect he would want to get on that immediately to eliminate his place of residence from his "Jim Crow" list.  But not a peep as outrage is conditional.  Conditions being what we do is okay and what others do is not.   

As for baseball the only use I have for it is to turn on a game in order to put me to sleep when I need a nap.

Rule #2, please.  I’d like to see the polls (plural).  

 

Also, it’s interesting to me that there’s so much pearl clutching about capitalism at work.  It’s bad law, and enough people dislike it that it makes financial sense for business to stand against it.  Don’t like it?  Move to Russia where you don’t have to worry about this kind of thing.  Or, better yet, don’t fly Delta, drink Coke, or patronize any of the businesses that made the economic decision to disagree with this nonsense.  

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Gee.

 

I thought it was so EVERYONE could vote fairly, black and white. Rich and poor.

 

Now you tell me that the actual goal is to get rid of Republicans and push for Democrat party rule.

 

Thanks for pointing the real purpose of HR1 to everyone here.

 

 

 

 

Define “fairly.” 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

My apologies...are you able to elaborate?

 

Yes.  Voter ID's in GA are already offered at no cost.  

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Blame Senile Joe and his lying.

 

Too much HCQ for you again, I see.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Rule #2, please.  I’d like to see the polls (plural).  

 

Also, it’s interesting to me that there’s so much pearl clutching about capitalism at work.  It’s bad law, and enough people dislike it that it makes financial sense for business to stand against it.  Don’t like it?  Move to Russia where you don’t have to worry about this kind of thing.  Or, better yet, don’t fly Delta, drink Coke, or patronize any of the businesses that made the economic decision to disagree with this nonsense.  

Define “fairly.” 

https://apnorc.org/projects/public-supportive-of-many-voting-reforms/

 

 

[SectionC3]

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Yes.  Voter ID's in GA are already offered at no cost.  

 

Groovy.  Where do I get one if I go to GA?  Gotta sink time and effort into getting the card?  No expense there.  Also, what happens if I’m standing in line and I forget it?  Back to another three hour wait to vote without anyone being allowed to give me food/water/etc?  I didn’t realize that I should have to pack provisions to vote if I live in a minority-majority part of that state.  It’s sad that you believe that such suppression measures are acceptable, but in my America they aren’t.  Chef Jim Crow, I see. 

5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

https://apnorc.org/projects/public-supportive-of-many-voting-reforms/

 

 

 

That’s one poll.  Got the other one?  And, I’ll note, the poll you referenced reflects strong support for the expansion of voting access to such things as same-day registration and broad absentee availability.  Interestingly, the poll also reflects the perception that barriers to legal voting are a bigger problem than illegal voting. 

Edited April 6, 2021 by SectionC3

[Chef Jim]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

  Also, what happens if I’m standing in line and I forget it?  Back to another three hour wait to vote without anyone being allowed to give me food/water/etc?  

 

Welcome to the party. Late and asinine as always.  So now we're supposed to protect people from being stupid. The only way to solve this issue is tattoo it on people's foreheads.  Oh and while they're on their way home to get their ID that can stop at a convenience store and get some food and water.  

 

So waiting in line is the only way to vote?  I've mentioned this several times.  I've not waited in line to vote in several years.  I guess I'm just smarter than those poor people in GA.  

[JaCrispy]

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Yes.  Voter ID's in GA are already offered at no cost.  

Oh wow...then there really seems like no real issue...

[B-Man]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Define “fairly.” 

 

Just what it means.    Of course you completely missed the point of my response to Tibs, by calling for an obvious answer

 

fair·ly

/ˈferlē/

 

adverb

1.

with justice.

"he could not fairly be accused of wasting police time"

2.

to quite a high degree.

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

Just what it means.    Of course you completely missed the point of my response to Tibs, by calling for an obvious answer

 

fair·ly

/ˈferlē/

 

adverb

1.

with justice.

"he could not fairly be accused of wasting police time"

2.

to quite a high degree.

 

 

 

 

Cool.  So what’s voting “with justice?”

[B-Man]

5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Groovy.  Where do I get one if I go to GA?  Gotta sink time and effort into getting the card?

 

 

Oh no, you have to put in effort to be able to use your right to vote ???

 

The Horror.

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Welcome to the party. Late and asinine as always.  So now we're supposed to protect people from being stupid. The only way to solve this issue is tattoo it on people's foreheads.  Oh and while they're on their way home to get their ID that can stop at a convenience store and get some food and water.  

 

So waiting in line is the only way to vote?  I've mentioned this several times.  I've not waited in line to vote in several years.  I guess I'm just smarter than those poor people in GA.  

 

Or you live in a place where there is largess of polling locations.  Unlike places like, say, minority-majority Georgia and Louisville.  Either one.  

[JaCrispy]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Oh no, you have to put in effort to be able to use your right to vote ???

 

The Horror.

It truly is quite pathetic to see all the whining about “having to do things”. 🤣🤣🤣

 

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by JaCrispy

[B-Man]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

Cool.  So what’s voting “with justice?”

 

 

You just don't want to really try and understand outside your bias do you.

 

Fair enough.

 

 

Do you need the definition of enough ?

 

 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

Cool.  So what’s voting “with justice?”

Bring this guy with you??

 

 

[SectionC3]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

Oh no, you have to put in effort to be able to use your right to vote ???

 

The Horror.

 

We exercise rights in this country, FYI.  And, in any event, since you’re cool with waiting several hours to exercise your voting rights, perhaps you can call your local BOE, tell them to lay off the poll workers and close some polling locations to save a couple of bucks, pretend this is Media Play circa 1994 and you’re camping out for the latest Rush Limbaugh book, park yourself in a soft chair, and see how things go. 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Or you live in a place where there is largess of polling locations.  Unlike places like, say, minority-majority Georgia and Louisville.  Either one.  

 

I vote at a mailbox.  They don't have those in GA??  

 

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Bring this guy with you??

 

 

Well played by Chef Jim Crow.  Well done. 

[Chef Jim]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

Well played by Chef Jim Crow.  Well done. 

 

So you're doubling down with the POTUS on the Jim Crow *****?  Is this really the direction you want to go with this?  

[B-Man]

 

Biden endorses moving MLB All-Star Game out of Georgia ...

.https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/31/biden-atlanta-baseball-all-star-game-478812

6 days ago — The president told ESPN's Sage Steele that the newly passed voting law in Georgia was "Jim Crow on steroids." Truist Park.

 

Biden Says He Would Support Moving All-Star Game Over ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/us/politics/biden-espn-baseball-georgia.html

6 days ago — In an interview on ESPN, President Biden discussed the restrictions passed by the state's Republicans last week and encouraged baseball ...

 

President Biden would support moving MLB All-Star Game out ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2021/03/31/joe-biden-would-support-moving-atlanta-mlb-all-star-game/4831725001/

6 days ago — In an interview on ESPN, President Joe Biden said he would support moving the MLB All-Star Game out of Atlanta over Georgia's new voting ...

 

TODAY.........after polling results.

 

 Jen Psaki tried to distance President Biden from the MLB All-Star game decision

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/04/06/katie-pavlich-truth-bombs-jen-psaki-after-she-tried-to-distance-president-biden-from-the-mlb-all-star-game-decision/

[SectionC3]

27 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So you're doubling down with the POTUS on the Jim Crow *****?  Is this really the direction you want to go with this?  

 

The obvious answer is yes.  You’re OK with stifling minority vote in Georgia, I’m not.  Don’t like the nickname Chef Jim Crow?  Then don’t support laws that harken to the era of Jim Crow.  It’s a pretty simple deal. 

[Chef Jim]

23 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

The obvious answer is yes.  You’re OK with stifling minority vote in Georgia, I’m not.  Don’t like the nickname Chef Jim Crow?  Then don’t support laws that harken to the era of Jim Crow.  It’s a pretty simple deal. 

 

So this law ONLY hurts black people?  This law was designed to hurt only black people??  Can you please explain how this law, like Jim Crow,  only affects black people.  No one else has been able to do this so far whenever I've asked.  Let's see if our favorite counselor can articulate it.  I'll wait. 

 

To equate this to Jim Crow downplays the true Jim Crow laws.  Biden appears to be senile.  What's your excuse? 

[B-Man]

PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: 

 

Ga. State Rep. Calls Joe Biden’s Bluff on Georgia’s ‘Jim Crow on Steroids.’

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/04/06/ga-state-rep-calls-joe-bidens-bluff-on-georgias-jim-crow-on-steroids-n1437700

[B-Man]

 

 

Being honest................yes, that is probably the most logical explanation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fortunately Biden's credibility is unaffected. 😎

 

 

 

 

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[Orlando Tim]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Why is this all happening? This law is a reaction to GQP losing in Georgia. Right? 

Tibs you live in NY where voting is much more restricted than GA. Please stop with your projection.

[JaCrispy]

Me, when others make exposing the Left’s hypocrisy look like taking candy from a baby...

 

[US Egg]

My grandfather's family fought for the south out Perry, Georgia.

 

.....just saying.

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So this law ONLY hurts black people?  This law was designed to hurt only black people??  Can you please explain how this law, like Jim Crow,  only affects black people.  No one else has been able to do this so far whenever I've asked.  Let's see if our favorite counselor can articulate it.  I'll wait. 

 

To equate this to Jim Crow downplays the true Jim Crow laws.  Biden appears to be senile.  What's your excuse? 

 

Let's not change the subject here.  I didn't wake up today and say, "I want to give this weird rando on the Internet an incredibly catchy and hilarious nickname."  That's not what happened.  You made me do this.  You made me name you Chef Jim Crow. That's on you. 

 

And, to prove the point about your Crowy behavior, the test isn't "only" affects minorities. It's principally affects minorities, or primarily affects minorities, or is targeted at minorities.  Kind of like the provision defeating line warmers.  Or the part about vesting more power in state election officials.  Or the part about limiting remote voting (without basis, I might add)---something in which African-Americans are far more likely to participate. 

 

So you have fun doing your Crow thing tonight and reminiscing about the good old days of hoaxes and hydoxychloroquine, and I'll focus on making this country more democratic and honest.  

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Rule #2, please.  I’d like to see the polls (plural).  

 

 

I know you won't understand because it takes comprehension without being told by a media mouth piece, but the fact that the MLB website is not mentioning what they did means they know they screwed up. If what they did was actually popular they would trumpeting for all to see. Truly if it was even 50/50 they would be trying to explain their viewpoint, but it is hard to argue your revulsion to the law if you never actually read before reacting.

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Let's not change the subject here.  I didn't wake up today and say, "I want to give this weird rando on the Internet an incredibly catchy and hilarious nickname."  That's not what happened.  You made me do this.  You made me name you Chef Jim Crow. That's on you. 

 

And, to prove the point about your Crowy behavior, the test isn't "only" affects minorities. It's principally affects minorities, or primarily affects minorities, or is targeted at minorities.  Kind of like the provision defeating line warmers.  Or the part about vesting more power in state election officials.  Or the part about limiting remote voting (without basis, I might add)---something in which African-Americans are far more likely to participate. 

 

So you have fun doing your Crow thing tonight and reminiscing about the good old days of hoaxes and hydoxychloroquine, and I'll focus on making this country more democratic and honest.  

 

It targets minorities?  Out of all those words those are the two I've been railing against since the beginning. Sorry you've not been able to understand that.  I suggest you, and Joe, read up on Jim Crow and what that was really all about before you equate this Bill to that horrible mess.  And go ahead.  Call me racist.  I don't care.  You don't know me.  You don't have any clue about how I feel about different people.  How I've interacted with them. The first hand racism I witnessed growing up and how those things have stuck with me for 50 years.  If it makes you feel better to accuse someone of these things you've never met have at it.  

[Chef Jim]

19 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

My grandfather's family fought for the south out Perry, Georgia.

 

.....just saying.

 

My dad got beat up because he was dark and dated white girls.  

 

[Doc]

57 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

It targets minorities?  Out of all those words those are the two I've been railing against since the beginning. Sorry you've not been able to understand that.  I suggest you, and Joe, read up on Jim Crow and what that was really all about before you equate this Bill to that horrible mess.  And go ahead.  Call me racist.  I don't care.  You don't know me.  You don't have any clue about how I feel about different people.  How I've interacted with them. The first hand racism I witnessed growing up and how those things have stuck with me for 50 years.  If it makes you feel better to accuse someone of these things you've never met have at it.  

 

Apparently lots of black people a) have no ID whatsoever and b) are so busy (doing who knows what considering you need ID to work) that they can't be bothered to go get a free voter ID card, yet somehow manage to make it to the polls every Election day.  I'm surprised Dems haven't proposed going to their houses to collect their votes because, goodness forbid if they have to expend even an ounce of energy to do something so important that we can't have any restrictions on it.

 

No, they know what they're doing.  So they play the tired race card.

 

 

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

It targets minorities?  Out of all those words those are the two I've been railing against since the beginning. Sorry you've not been able to understand that.  I suggest you, and Joe, read up on Jim Crow and what that was really all about before you equate this Bill to that horrible mess.  And go ahead.  Call me racist.  I don't care.  You don't know me.  You don't have any clue about how I feel about different people.  How I've interacted with them. The first hand racism I witnessed growing up and how those things have stuck with me for 50 years.  If it makes you feel better to accuse someone of these things you've never met have at it.  

You’re the only one who brought out the word racist.  Just you.  It’s nice that you see yourself as empathetic.  I hope it’s true.  But if it is, it makes your stance with respect to this Georgia nonsense that much more curious.  

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Apparently lots of black people a) have no ID whatsoever and b) are so busy (doing who knows what considering you need ID to work) that they can't be bothered to go get a free voter ID card, yet somehow manage to make it to the polls every Election day.  I'm surprised Dems haven't proposed going to their houses to collect their votes because, goodness forbid if they have to expend even an ounce of energy to do something so important that we can't have any restrictions on it.

 

No, they know what they're doing.  So they play the tired race card.

 

 

What problem does this Georgia law address? 

[ndirish1978]

Reaction to this law appears to have offended woke left whites. It's condescending and stupid to come out and say minorities don't already have IDs. You're aware that it's actually condescending and racist to presume that this fictionally "targeted" group of minority people without IDs are so incompetent that they couldn't easily get on, right? You know what happens if they pass a law requiring IDs? People who want to vote go get an ID. Before anyone calls me racist, I'd like to note that I am a minority myself.

 

Is it racist that we require a drivers' license for people to drive? No. Similarly it is not racist to ask people who want to exercise their civic duty of voting to exercise the bare minimum effort of getting an ID so we can be sure that everyone's vote is counted accurately and fairly. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by ndirish1978

[B-Man]

President Biden Was Hit By His Own Pitch and His Major League Screwup May Now Affect Another Sporting Enterprise

 

It has become increasingly clear the White House has realized they have severely overplayed their hand in the response to the Georgia voting law recently signed by Governor Brian Kemp. For weeks the President has likened the new voting rules in place to be akin to the most pernicious racist laws we have seen in this country. This kind of divisive and intolerant language from The Great Uniter has inspired corporations to behave like collegian activists, and now the administration is seeing themselves forced into a gold-medal fiasco-in-the-making.

 

Following Biden’s insistence to describe the race-free language in the Georgia law as ‘’Jim Crow on Steroids’’ the administration faces a reality of impacting black businesses it has relied upon for support.

 

The White House thought they were in safe territory by tap-dancing loudly on the ‘’that’s racist!’’ stage, but now they see their words are evolving into actions with negative results. Major League Baseball has taken on Biden’s inspiration and boldly decided to pull its All-Star game out of Atlanta in response to the law, and things look poorly on everyone involved.

 

The move has stripped an event out of a city to the tune of at least $100 million, where the President and Democrats claimed they supported the citizens. MLB has settled on a replacement city — Denver, Colorado. This is a state that ALSO has an ID requirement for voting, and two fewer early voting days than the state claimed to have made things tougher on black voters. Then it was realized that Atlanta is a city with 50% POC citizens and 30% blacked-owned businesses, in favor of Denver, with an 80% white gentry.

 

This could not come off looking any worse for those involved, without involving a city that was located inside a gated community and staging the game inside of Miracle Whip Stadium. Now Biden finds his hands being forced on another athletic matter with even more grave consequences. One of the common responses to MLB opposing the supposed voting rights abuses in Georgia is how the league could have such a strong opinion on the matter, considering they staged games not so long ago in the voting-unfriendly confines of Cuba. 

 

In like fashion, if the administration is so outraged at sports played in a state with stringent voting regulations then there needs to be a question posed — What about China? There we see a country that has far worse voting issues leveled against its citizenry, and with the President making such bold pronouncements about those rights it means he now has to regard the approach towards those with tougher restrictions.

As a result, the administration has stated they are exploring a new decision.

 

While on the one hand it stands up to reason, we do need to ask if that reason would be so evident had President Biden not leaned so heavily on the Georgia law, and had he not nudged MLB to take its action. Now the administration has to take this position, as they have demonized one of the American states so heartily that a communist state with heavier voting restrictions needs to be addressed. 

 

This is a similar position many corporations fall into. Those CEOs who slander Georgia as a human rights abuser have to be checked for striking far more lucrative deals in hostile nations. The CEO of Coke was upset at the law, but he produces his product in China, unbothered. Hollywood voiced outrage at Georgia’s abortion laws but was content to reach new agreements in Saudi Arabia, where the ladies are far less free. 

 

Now President Biden is painted into a sports corner with a brush he has been swinging wildly. It will be worth watching to see how he unites his standards on this matter.

 

https://redstate.com/bradslager/2021/04/06/president-biden-was-hit-by-his-own-pitch-and-his-major-league-screwup-may-now-affect-another-sporting-enterprise-n356552

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

My dad got beat up because he was dark and dated white girls.  

Chef Al Jolson?

[JaCrispy]

I’m a minority ethnicity in this country and I approve the Georgia election laws...why? Because I’m a law abiding citizen who doesn’t want their legal vote disenfranchised because others don’t care about protecting against potential fraud...

 

Black and brown people have NO problem providing ID or following the rules when it comes to voting...we’ve been doing it for generations...it’s  racist white Leftists that think we are either too dumb, or, at least, play the race card to further their own white guilt agenda...

 

We will never have unity in this country while white Leftists continue to divide us, by telling us how we’re supposed to think and act...Stop thinking we have to be held to a lower standard! Like Obama says, “Yes we can!” 👍

Edited April 7, 2021 by JaCrispy

[B-Man]

                          

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                

[Orlando Tim]

24 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Reaction to this law appears to have offended woke left whites. It's condescending and stupid to come out and say minorities don't already have IDs. You're aware that it's actually condescending and racist to presume that this fictionally "targeted" group of minority people without IDs are so incompetent that they couldn't easily get on, right? You know what happens if they pass a law requiring IDs? People who want to vote go get an ID. Before anyone calls me racist, I'd like to note that I am a minority myself.

 

Is it racist that we require a drivers' license for people to drive? No. Similarly it is not racist to ask people who want to exercise their civic duty of voting to exercise the bare minimum effort of getting an ID so we can be sure that everyone's vote is counted accurately and fairly. 

I agree with everything you are saying but want to point out that it is only to morons the fact that you are a minority matters at all to this conversation, but I am sure it is a fact that "wins" many arguments with these woke morons.

[Buffalo716]

I've always needed an ID to buy beer, and even pick up tickets at the ticket office..

 

100% unequivocally you should need to show ID to vote

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Being honest................yes, that is probably the most logical explanation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fortunately Biden's credibility is unaffected. 😎

 

 

 

 

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Simple- 

 

Placate black vote from baseball community? Check. 

 

Placate white vote from golf community? Check.  
 

all lies, all the time. No standards, no principles, just how can we fool them today..