Unforgiven Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: DJT says...Pass. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/04/trump-senate-impeachment-trial-testify-house-democrats Living rent free in so many imbeciles heads. Srs bsns. They failed hard the first time, so, being the dummies they are they try again doubling down on stupid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Unforgiven said: Living rent free in so many imbeciles heads. Srs bsns. They failed hard the first time, so, being the dummies they are they try again doubling down on stupid. You still mad your guy lost... Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Unforgiven said: Living rent free in so many imbeciles heads. Srs bsns. They failed hard the first time, so, being the dummies they are they try again doubling down on stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 14 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: DJT says...Pass. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/04/trump-senate-impeachment-trial-testify-house-democrats A more extreme approach might be to refuse to mount a defense based on the argument the legislative branch under the Senate has no authority to "try" or "impeach" a private citizen. Therefore, any legal actions must be entertained in Federal court under the authority of the judiciary branch. As the articles of impeachment were delivered from the House to the Senate after the Biden term started and the Trump term ended this position has some validity as the law is one part legality and two parts process. Article I, section 3 of the Constitution states the Senate has sole power over impeachment proceedings of the President. But he's not the President. So the issue may be destined for a Supreme Court ruling. And let's not yank each others chains here. The sole purpose of the impeachment is not to address some "insurrection" charge. It's politically motivated to make sure Trump cannot hold any office, or specifically run for the presidency in 2024. That possibility scares the crap out of the Democrats and many Republicans who want to see him gone. I really can't foresee that happening but I guess they figure if the opportunity comes along to prevent it why take a chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: A more extreme approach might be to refuse to mount a defense based on the argument the legislative branch under the Senate has no authority to "try" or "impeach" a private citizen. Therefore, any legal actions must be entertained in Federal court under the authority of the judiciary branch. As the articles of impeachment were delivered from the House to the Senate after the Biden term started and the Trump term ended this position has some validity as the law is one part legality and two parts process. Article I, section 3 of the Constitution states the Senate has sole power over impeachment proceedings of the President. But he's not the President. So the issue may be destined for a Supreme Court ruling. And let's not yank each others chains here. The sole purpose of the impeachment is not to address some "insurrection" charge. It's politically motivated to make sure Trump cannot hold any office, or specifically run for the presidency in 2024. That possibility scares the crap out of the Democrats and many Republicans who want to see him gone. I really can't foresee that happening but I guess they figure if the opportunity comes along to prevent it why take a chance? This may be the most well thought out post I’ve read on here in months. Very well summarized and 100% correct! End thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 11 hours ago, BillStime said: You need to find some new porn. 😝 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: A more extreme approach might be to refuse to mount a defense based on the argument the legislative branch under the Senate has no authority to "try" or "impeach" a private citizen. Therefore, any legal actions must be entertained in Federal court under the authority of the judiciary branch. As the articles of impeachment were delivered from the House to the Senate after the Biden term started and the Trump term ended this position has some validity as the law is one part legality and two parts process. Article I, section 3 of the Constitution states the Senate has sole power over impeachment proceedings of the President. But he's not the President. So the issue may be destined for a Supreme Court ruling. And let's not yank each others chains here. The sole purpose of the impeachment is not to address some "insurrection" charge. It's politically motivated to make sure Trump cannot hold any office, or specifically run for the presidency in 2024. That possibility scares the crap out of the Democrats and many Republicans who want to see him gone. I really can't foresee that happening but I guess they figure if the opportunity comes along to prevent it why take a chance? Very interesting perspective, and I agree with your assessment on why this is playing out on the dem side of things. To take it just a bit further, I think dem leadership recognizes the emotional immaturity of its base and and is playing to that crowd. We have seen it here over the past few days--the old "If he refuses to testify it makes him look even more guilty". You can have a rational argument with some people about the way our justice system works, why the ability to decline to speak on your own behalf is so vitally important to the concept of personal freedom, but with others you simply cannot. There are precious few new ideas in political life, and we see the same cycles repeat over and over again because they work, and people fall for it. The subtle differences between "Trump and Russia" and "McCarthyism" are really just a matter of degree and methodology of pursuing the allegedly treasonous party. The exact same argument being pushed today--"Well, if he doesn't testify, it sure makes him appear guilty" was made during Mueller's attempted purge, and really isn't all that far removed from the course of action followed in the Salem Witch Trials. It doesn't matter that the dopes lead by their noses on Russia morphed quietly from treason to obstruction, the premise being that if you refuse to submit, you're hiding something, and if you try to defend yourself on something that you did not do, you're obstructing the inquisitors. Personally, I like the angle he's taking, best summarized by International Criminal Leslie Chow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: This may be the most well thought out post I’ve read on here in months. Very well summarized and 100% correct! End thread. “This thread don’t end until I say it ends!” -Everyone 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Yep. I just have no clue why people would even fathom our elections are rigged now. No idea. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Yep. I just have no clue why people would even fathom our elections are rigged now. No idea. You just read the Tweets - got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: “This thread don’t end until I say it ends!” -Everyone 2021 "Nothing is over until we say its over!" John Blutarsky Animal House (1978) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: You just read the Tweets - got it. "Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction." Who is "they?" What fraud were they concerned with? Memes? Tweets? YouTube videos? No "they" were the ones rigging and perpetrating fraud. How much is a rigged Google search worth in billions as a donation to Biden's campaign? Or rigged Twitter trends? Speaking of which.....didn't see the jobs report number trending today. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: "Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction." Who is "they?" What fraud were they concerned with? Memes? Tweets? YouTube videos? No "they" were the ones rigging and perpetrating fraud. How much is a rigged Google search worth in billions as a donation to Biden's campaign? Or rigged Twitter trends? Speaking of which.....didn't see the jobs report number trending today. Odd. Point out to where any one here said that COVID would disappear and the economy would bounce back the day Biden took office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: Point out to where any one here said that COVID would disappear and the economy would bounce back the day Biden took office? Ralph Northam just declared Covid is over and schools must open by March 15. All the metrics we said we had to follow are now out the window bc the metrics were 10x lower in September. If this was purely bc the vaccine is making it possible that is not what he said. Northam tells school districts to offer in-person learning by March 15 "To prevent irreparable learning loss and psychological damage, I expect every school division in the Commonwealth to make in-person learning options available by March 15, 2021, in accordance with the latest guidance," Northam said in a letter to the state's school superintendents. He then went on to say The CDC Fauci and President Biden have all called for schools to open and its safe to do so (with safety measures obviously forever). Sham. Whole thing was a sham. I'd ask you what's it feel like to be a dupe but you're not.....you just supported the 2020 Coup by Team Uniparty. Edited February 5, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Ralph Northam just declared Covid is over and schools must open by March 15. All the metrics we said we had to follow are now out the window bc the metrics were 10x lower in September. If this was purely bc the vaccine is making it possible that is not what he said. Northam tells school districts to offer in-person learning by March 15 "To prevent irreparable learning loss and psychological damage, I expect every school division in the Commonwealth to make in-person learning options available by March 15, 2021, in accordance with the latest guidance," Northam said in a letter to the state's school superintendents. He then went on to say The CDC Fauci and President Biden have all called for schools to open and its safe to do so (with safety measures obviously forever). Sham. Whole thing was a sham. I'd ask you what's it feel like to be a dupe but you're not.....you just supported the 2020 Coup by Team Uniparty. DUPED? LMAO Are you serious? You got DUPED the past four years. Is BILLSFANS.COM not fun anymore? Isn't there a COVID and Election Fraud thread you can play in over there? Edited February 5, 2021 by BillStime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: DUPED? LMAO Are you serious? You got DUPED the past four years. Is BILLSFANS.COM not fun for anymore? Isn't there a COVID and Election Fraud thread you can play in over there? I confess... I bit, and went to the web page you quoted, just to find it is in the blocked list from my company server, what the heck went on in that site?? I digress...😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: DUPED? LMAO Are you serious? You got DUPED the past four years. I don't know what you are talking about. Life was great. Not sure what policy from Trump negatively impacted an actual American Citizen. But I can think of plenty of Fascist Dems that are negatively impacting people (bc they duped them----they wear TWO masks now!) in the most unprecedented ways imaginable My guy tweeted and got you in your feelings. The China/Democrat Coalition has set back a generation of kids and ruined countless lives. But at least you don't have to watch Trump argue with Jim Acosta anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I heard an idea the other day about opening schools I thought interesting. Close schools now until September. Everyone repeats a grade. By September we should be in a lot better shape due to vaccines. How much have kids actually learned since September 2020 and will learn in a few more months of Zoom school?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: A more extreme approach might be to refuse to mount a defense based on the argument the legislative branch under the Senate has no authority to "try" or "impeach" a private citizen. Therefore, any legal actions must be entertained in Federal court under the authority of the judiciary branch. As the articles of impeachment were delivered from the House to the Senate after the Biden term started and the Trump term ended this position has some validity as the law is one part legality and two parts process. Article I, section 3 of the Constitution states the Senate has sole power over impeachment proceedings of the President. But he's not the President. So the issue may be destined for a Supreme Court ruling. And let's not yank each others chains here. The sole purpose of the impeachment is not to address some "insurrection" charge. It's politically motivated to make sure Trump cannot hold any office, or specifically run for the presidency in 2024. That possibility scares the crap out of the Democrats and many Republicans who want to see him gone. I really can't foresee that happening but I guess they figure if the opportunity comes along to prevent it why take a chance? Sure it would be great to not allow Trump to ever run again but it ain't happening and they know it ain't happening. The real purpose is to make Trump the greatest Democrat Party fund raising tool since Newt Gingrich. Edited February 5, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: I heard an idea the other day about opening schools I thought interesting. Close schools now until September. Everyone repeats a grade. By September we should be in a lot better shape due to vaccines. How much have kids actually learned since September 2020 and will learn in a few more months of Zoom school?? They could try and take advantage of this situation to try and rework school to work better, I mean summer vacation doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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