Doc Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Eric Wood just mentioned on WGR-550 that this rumor is interesting to him, b/c both Watson and Tua have the same agent! Thinks there is more to this than your typical rumor. I.E., Watson could well be going to Miami. Really bad news for us if it happens. It won't. But it's great to pump-up the hopes of Watson and the Dols fans, and crush Tua's spirit, in the meantime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Doc said: It won't. But it's great to pump-up the hopes of Watson and the Dols fans, and crush Tua's spirit, in the meantime. It sounds like Watson has become disillusioned with the Houston franchise and is almost in a "hold out" situation, asking to be traded. Or something like that. His agent is probably trying to coordinate things with his Tua, his other client, and make all parties happy at the same time. I do think there is more to this than I originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It sounds like Watson has become disillusioned with the Houston franchise and is almost in a "hold out" situation, asking to be traded. Or something like that. His agent is probably trying to coordinate things with his Tua, his other client, and make all parties happy at the same time. I do think there is more to this than I originally thought. I think until Houston have hire a coach and that coach and Caserio have had a chance to sit Watson down and talk to him it is all just fluff. He is obviously disillusioned and I can't blame him but until they have had that conversation the rest is speculation. If after the conversation his head is still on the way out if Houston then the rest of it becomes a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It sounds like Watson has become disillusioned with the Houston franchise and is almost in a "hold out" situation, asking to be traded. Or something like that. His agent is probably trying to coordinate things with his Tua, his other client, and make all parties happy at the same time. I do think there is more to this than I originally thought. That Watson and Tuna have the same agent means nothing to Caserio, who is holding the cards. Watson is under contract and will have to show at some point or face massive fines. Meanwhile Caserio will do everything he can to pacify Watson but the chances he trades him in the AFC, much less the AFC East, are nil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The guy need some media love. His stats will be at the forefront of every off season discussion This will be the love he needs and maybe a few more bucks for his trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 49ers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 If I were Miami I would be offering the farm for Watson. I would offer up pick 3, 20, and 35 along with a mid round pick in 2021 and a 1st and 3rd in 2022 and a 2nd in 2023. The Dolphins have the cap space to absorb Watson and the draft capital to push for him. The Texans won't get a better haul of picks, 3 premium selections in 2021, two top picks in 2022 and a pick in 2023. If the Texans lose Watson that haul of picks will help greatly in a rebuild. The Fins are a QB away from being a serious contender. Watson would immediately make them a contender long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: If I were Miami I would be offering the farm for Watson. I would offer up pick 3, 20, and 35 along with a mid round pick in 2021 and a 1st and 3rd in 2022 and a 2nd in 2023. The Dolphins have the cap space to absorb Watson and the draft capital to push for him. The Texans won't get a better haul of picks, 3 premium selections in 2021, two top picks in 2022 and a pick in 2023. If the Texans lose Watson that haul of picks will help greatly in a rebuild. The Fins are a QB away from being a serious contender. Watson would immediately make them a contender long term. The other point on the Dolphins end of this that I saw Cowherd make yesterday is "they are getting to the stage where you don't want 9 or 10 picks every year". They are a young team already and the problem when you have 5 or 6 picks in the first three rounds every year for a 3 or 4 year run is if they all work out some of them are gonna walk because you won't be able to pay them. There come a point when it isn't about having quantity of guys that can play but is about having quality guys who can play at an elite or borderline elite level. That said I still think the chances of the Texans trading him are negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The other point on the Dolphins end of this that I saw Cowherd make yesterday is "they are getting to the stage where you don't want 9 or 10 picks every year". They are a young team already and the problem when you have 5 or 6 picks in the first three rounds every year for a 3 or 4 year run is if they all work out some of them are gonna walk because you won't be able to pay them. There come a point when it isn't about having quantity of guys that can play but is about having quality guys who can play at an elite or borderline elite level. That said I still think the chances of the Texans trading him are negligible. The Fins won't have an issue with bottlenecks on contract extensions in my opinion, even if you have 9 to 10 picks every year including 4-5 in the first 2-3 rounds there is still a high bust rate in the NFL so the possibility of having so many players hit that it becomes an issue is improbable and a good problem to have anyway. My thinking with the Fins is that they are in a position where they need to go all in for a QB and they have the assets and cap space to get a top QB. If Watson wants out the Fins are in the best position to offer the best package of picks and fully absorb the contract. I agree that a Watson trade is unlikely as. you don't give up on a top 5 young QB with plenty of years on his contract. But if this situation gets ugly the Fins could easily swoop in and offer 6-7 top flight picks and other mid round selections for Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoPoy88 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow I’m shocked. Now they scramble to interview the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Like I said... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The other point on the Dolphins end of this that I saw Cowherd make yesterday is "they are getting to the stage where you don't want 9 or 10 picks every year". They are a young team already and the problem when you have 5 or 6 picks in the first three rounds every year for a 3 or 4 year run is if they all work out some of them are gonna walk because you won't be able to pay them. There come a point when it isn't about having quantity of guys that can play but is about having quality guys who can play at an elite or borderline elite level. That said I still think the chances of the Texans trading him are negligible. Move around the draft, push picks back, use them to trade for vets. No way I'd trade watson. Fix the relationship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm all for a Watson trade out of the AFC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, dneveu said: Move around the draft, push picks back, use them to trade for vets. No way I'd trade watson. Fix the relationship. Exactly what I mean in terms of how you use all those picks now they are good. You don't execute all the picks, you use them as capital and if there is a chance of Watson (there isn't) you throw loads at the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheFunPolice Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 They almost have to hire Bienemy at this point, if they want to appease Watson. He complains that they didn't even interview the guy he really wants as HC, so they interview the guy and then don't hire him. That's almost worse. Bienemy has literally everything you would want in a head coach to pair with a dynamic young QB except head coaching experience. I wonder if there is some truth to the story that came out about Bienemy not interviewing that well. Some people who are really good at what they do just don't excel in the interview format, while other coaches ace the interview but are terrible at the job. How many awful coaches from the early 2000'sdid we hear "blew the team away" in the interview process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 For what it is worth John McClain who is the most respect local beat reporter in Houston and their HoF voter says there is more chance that he is the next coach than of Watson being traded this offseason. At this stage at least ownership down the Texans are steadfast that if Watson is playing football in 2021 it will be for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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