Tommy Callahan Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I think you’re reading into things that just aren’t there. You’re just making a bunch of assumptions. The tweet thread mentioned blocking trolls. The only person he actually named is Elon. I fail to see how that is demonizing whole groups of people. At no point did I advocate for blocking people simply because you disagree with them. the thread mentioned blocking anyone with opposing opinions by demonizing them. ITs ok. Like most racist. Bigots often dont grasp what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: the thread mentioned blocking anyone with opposing opinions by demonizing them. ITs ok. Like most racist. Bigots often dont grasp what they are. Please show me the tweet in that thread that says to block anyone you disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 11:40 AM, ChiGoose said: Solid advice for how to properly use Twitter: the funny part is where you already did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Chris farley said: the funny part is where you already did. At no point in the thread does he say to block people just because you disagree with them. You just made that up. Which is why you refuse to support your claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, B-Man said: IT’S THE TRUMP VENDETTA ALL OVER AGAIN: These “prominent attorneys” need to be named and shamed. No matter. He can then just cross over the border in Texas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 So let’s say I have a Twitter account that republishes public information on private jet activity, including that of a private jet owned by a certain Mr Musk. A free speech proponent would never ban that account. Right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: So let’s say I have a Twitter account that republishes public information on private jet activity, including that of a private jet owned by a certain Mr Musk. A free speech proponent would never ban that account. Right? Would you be OK with your home address and where you go being put on Twitter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: So let’s say I have a Twitter account that republishes public information on private jet activity, including that of a private jet owned by a certain Mr Musk. A free speech proponent would never ban that account. Right? Depends on the intent of the person publishing this information I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Would you be OK with your home address and where you go being put on Twitter? Not my point. (And yes, if you know my name and state you can find my address for free in about 20 seconds.) My point is every site will have some kind of rule for what is allowed on it. As I said, this is public information. That flight tracker guy is just making it easier to access. So it’s not “free speech vs censorship.” Its “my brand of censorship vs yours.” Which is fair if you own the damn site. Which is exactly what those of us who defended pre-Elon Twitter were saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Not my point. (And yes, if you know my name and state you can find my address for free in about 20 seconds.) My point is every site will have some kind of rule for what is allowed on it. As I said, this is public information. That flight tracker guy is just making it easier to access. So it’s not “free speech vs censorship.” Its “my brand of censorship vs yours.” Which is fair if you own the damn site. Which is exactly what those of us who defended pre-Elon Twitter were saying. So which political party benefits from this form of censorship? Are you saying you were defending Twitter's apparent political censorship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 hours ago, BillStime said: They blocked the bot account. They are getting rid of all bots and spam on Twitter, I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand. The person who created the bot has a personal account and he was never banned. More fake news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So which political party benefits from this form of censorship? Are you saying you were defending Twitter's apparent political censorship? Yes. That is what I am saying. - Twitter was a publicly traded corporation, it had duly appointed officers and a Board, and those persons made a decision as to what kind of speech they would prohibit based on business and other factors that were entirely within their rights to apply. (Just as others were free to criticize those decisions and start their competing forums) - Twitter is now a privately held company that is presumably in compliance with whatever state (Delaware?) authority under which it is registered regarding corporate governance, and if it doesn’t believe that allowing someone to post about the whereabouts of its majority owner’s private plane, that is its decision to make. (And others are free to criticize those decisions or start their own competing services). Not really so hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: They blocked the bot account. They are getting rid of all bots and spam on Twitter, I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand. The person who created the bot has a personal account and he was never banned. More fake news It's public information - Musk should have upped his offer when he tried to buy him out... I'm sure those Russian bots have been banned, too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: It's public information - Musk should have upped his offer when he tried to buy him out... I'm sure those Russian bots have been banned, too, right? The owner of the account can manually post Elon's flight information from his own account at any time. The other account was a bot that was just running a script to automatically post and all bots like that are being blocked including the Chinese bots that push communism so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Not my point. (And yes, if you know my name and state you can find my address for free in about 20 seconds.) My point is every site will have some kind of rule for what is allowed on it. As I said, this is public information. That flight tracker guy is just making it easier to access. So it’s not “free speech vs censorship.” Its “my brand of censorship vs yours.” Which is fair if you own the damn site. Which is exactly what those of us who defended pre-Elon Twitter were saying. Tracking where celebrities go can be a safety hazard. Especially now for Elon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Doc said: Tracking where celebrities go can be a safety hazard. Especially now for Elon. Why is Elon special? Bet you didn't mind everyone tracking Terry Pegula's private jet on the other side, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Why is Elon special? Bet you didn't mind everyone tracking Terry Pegula's private jet on the other side, right? Apples and oranges…Can’t say that Terry has had death threats like Elon…👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Apples and oranges…Can’t say that Terry has had death threats like Elon…👍 Why is Elon special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Not my point. (And yes, if you know my name and state you can find my address for free in about 20 seconds.) My point is every site will have some kind of rule for what is allowed on it. As I said, this is public information. That flight tracker guy is just making it easier to access. So it’s not “free speech vs censorship.” Its “my brand of censorship vs yours.” Which is fair if you own the damn site. Which is exactly what those of us who defended pre-Elon Twitter were saying. And now ignoring that it has been shown that it was done in partnership with government agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: They blocked the bot account. They are getting rid of all bots and spam on Twitter, I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand. The person who created the bot has a personal account and he was never banned. More fake news 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: Why is Elon special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) New Twitter blocking an account that widely shares the flight tracker whereabouts of the new owner of Twitter? Bad. Old Twitter censoring a true and verifiable story on a Twitter account owned by one of the oldest newspapers in the nation about the son of a US presidential candidate and his shady international business dealings that were allegedly benefitting his candidate father? Well, that's a nothing burger. Old Twitter now shown to have deplatformed a sitting US President, despite internal Twitter communications now showing that the former President didn't violate the rules and they booted him anyway? Again, nothing burger. It's going to be awesome to read all the "nothing burgers" the commies tell us are in the covid Twitter files. Edited December 14, 2022 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: New Twitter blocking an account that widely shares the flight tracker whereabouts of the new owner of Twitter? Bad. Old Twitter censoring a true and verifiable story on a Twitter account owned by one of the oldest newspapers in the nation about the son of a US presidential candidate and his shady international business dealings that were allegedly benefitting his candidate father? Well, that's a nothing burger. Old Twitter now shown to have deplatformed a sitting US President, despite internal Twitter communications now showing that the former President didn't violate the rules and they booted him anyway? Again, nothing burger. It's going to be awesome to read all the "nothing burgers" the commies tell us are in the covid Twitter files. POTUS should never have incited an insurrection. 771 days since the 2020 Presidential election and the cult is still looking for a scapegoat. Cry harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Why is Elon special? Because, like Trump, he makes your head explode. All hail Elon!! 33 minutes ago, BillStime said: POTUS should never have incited an insurrection. 771 days since the 2020 Presidential election and the cult is still looking for a scapegoat. Cry harder 771 days (you ***** counted??) since the 2020 election, and Orange man is still ***** with your brain. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Because, like Trump, he makes your head explode. All hail Elon!! Oh so the same impact DR and your “friends” at their safe place have on you. Edited December 14, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Well I'll withhold judgment until I see why. Not a good look I'll admit. Banning bots is one thing but permanently banning someone is not good unless they have seriously done something unthinkable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Well, that certainly is something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: 771 days (you ***** counted??) since the 2020 election, and Orange man is still ***** with your brain. 😂 Ever hear of Google? smfh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Ever hear of Google? smfh Inside your ***** head. Seriously, what do you do for a living? Funny how you’re afraid to divulge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Inside your ***** head. Seriously, what do you do for a living? Funny how you’re afraid to divulge. Just like you and the rest of the cult desperately seeking a scapegoat for Trumps loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Just like you and the rest of the cult desperately seeking a scapegoat for Trumps loss. No scapegoat needed here Billy Boy. 🤯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Apparently the shut down of the plane tracking accounts is due to a new content moderation policy: Private information and media policy Most of it is pretty standard anti-doxxing stuff but the big change seems to be banning real time location tracking, even if it is readily available public information. I think most would agree that real time tracking of individuals on the street or in their cars would be bad. But I’m not convinced that plane tracking (or boat tracking in the case of Yacht Watch) is particularly dangerous to an individual. The plane lands at an airport behind the security checkpoints and then the individual will get in a car and leave. Unless there are a lot of stinger missiles in the hands of private citizens out there, I’m not sure what the danger is. Not to mention the fact that there are publicly available resources to do this anyway. People can just use an app for it (I like to use one to track flights into O’Hare for fun). Edited December 14, 2022 by ChiGoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: And now ignoring that it has been shown that it was done in partnership with government agencies. And the Trump White House was totally integrated with Fox News and the right wing media machine…..So what are we talking about again? Edited December 14, 2022 by TH3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: No scapegoat needed here Billy Boy. 🤯 Let's be real. No one is as obsessed with Trump as you are with BillStime. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Apparently the shut down of the plane tracking accounts is due to a new content moderation policy: Private information and media policy Most of it is pretty standard anti-doxxing stuff but the big change seems to be banning real time location tracking, even if it is readily available public information. I think most would agree that real time tracking of individuals on the street or in their cars would be bad. But I’m not convinced that plane tracking (or boat tracking in the case of Yacht Watch) is particularly dangerous to an individual. The plane lands at an airport behind the security checkpoints and then the individual will get in a car and leave. Unless there are a lot of stinger missiles in the hands of private citizens out there, I’m not sure what the danger is. Not to mention the fact that there are publicly available resources to do this anyway. People can just use an app for it (I like to use one to track flights into O’Hare for fun). Who cares? If it’s not dangerous, does it matter one way or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Let's be real. No one is as obsessed with Trump as you are with BillStime. 😂 I'm just trying to help him. I'd try to help you but you're too far gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Who cares? If it’s not dangerous, does it matter one way or the other? I mean, we’re talking about a social media site, so not sure too much actually matters. But yeah, if there’s really no danger, why ban it? Also, it looks like the ElonJet account is back up, so no idea what’s going on. It clearly violates the new policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: I mean, we’re talking about a social media site, so not sure too much actually matters. But yeah, if there’s really no danger, why ban it? Also, it looks like the ElonJet account is back up, so no idea what’s going on. It clearly violates the new policy. And you guys wonder why I don't use Twitter. It was ***** up then and it's ***** up now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: I mean, we’re talking about a social media site, so not sure too much actually matters. But yeah, if there’s really no danger, why ban it? Also, it looks like the ElonJet account is back up, so no idea what’s going on. It clearly violates the new policy. It's not up. He banned all real time tracking bot accounts. Someone tracked his plane last night thinking it was him and followed his private car from the airport and it was actually his 2 year old in the car not him. The crazy person blocked the car and jumped on the hood apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: It's not up. He banned all real time tracking bot accounts. Someone tracked his plane last night thinking it was him and followed his private car from the airport and it was actually his 2 year old in the car not him. The crazy person blocked the car and jumped on the hood apparently. That’s really messed up and they should go after that guy. I don’t see what lawsuit he could file against Sweeney that would have a chance at success though. As I said, you can just follow the plane on one of the many tracker apps out there. Banning tracker accounts from Twitter won’t stop people from following celebrity planes if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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