DFT Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Do I need to explain what empathy is for you? I have better than anecdotal experience. i have evidence - corroborated and fact checked. I'm listening. Speaks rage, racism and prejudices; calls it “empathy” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DFT said: Speaks rage, racism and prejudices; calls it “empathy” Cite a single example of me professing racism, ever. I ask again, do you need me to help you understand what empathy is? Edited September 16, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: and here's what happens when you let an uncivilized animal get back into the car. You end up shot. Should have put him down when they had the chance. This video is the perfect example to refute EVERYTHING that POS bullbuchanan claims cops to be. They did everything, practically begging that guy to comply. And, to their detriment. I’ve never seen that video until just now, and emotions are coursing through my blood right now - I’m sad at the sounds of a police officer screaming in terror. I’m angry that he gave up his life, and his family gave him up because of some worthless piece of ***** didn’t want to go back to jail. I’m scared because I’ve been in that exact situation many, many times before. Repeatedly threatening force, and hoping for compliance. In the end, all it does is make things worse. The bad guy formulates a plan. Stall and stall and stall. You can literally see it and hear it in his repetitive statements. That sergeant clearly didn’t want to use force. In the end, his hesitation to act cost him everything. Ask. Tell. Make. Easier said than done, because the vast majority of cops don’t want to use force. But, this video is a sad and terrible reminder of the ramifications when you don’t do it. RIP Sergeant Johnson. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) This thread really illustrates how contrived this whole narrative is. When I question how I know it's bogus I don't listen to the right, I look at the best evidence the left can produce. And despite nearly every major news organization and left-wing group in America scouring the country for examples that reinforce this narrative, this is the best they can scrape together. It's very telling. Edited September 16, 2020 by Rob's House 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This video is the perfect example to refute EVERYTHING that POS bullbuchanan claims cops to be. They did everything, practically begging that guy to comply. And, to their detriment. I’ve never seen that video until just now, and emotions are coursing through my blood right now - I’m sad at the sounds of a police officer screaming in terror. I’m angry that he gave up his life, and his family gave him up because of some worthless piece of ***** didn’t want to go back to jail. I’m scared because I’ve been in that exact situation many, many times before. Repeatedly threatening force, and hoping for compliance. In the end, all it does is make things worse. The bad guy formulates a plan. Stall and stall and stall. You can literally see it and hear it in his repetitive statements. That sergeant clearly didn’t want to use force. In the end, his hesitation to act cost him everything. Ask. Tell. Make. Easier said than done, because the vast majority of cops don’t want to use force. But, this video is a sad and terrible reminder of the ramifications when you don’t do it. RIP Sergeant Johnson. 5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: This is what I'm talking about. They exercise no skills in de-escalation but rather escalate the situation. Is the suspect a scumbag? Without a doubt, but they also know that having interacted with him in the past directly. Their process for getting him to comply with what they want is to repeat the same thing at him over and over again, which clearly doesn't work. Not very bright, but not escalating. The suspect is still not at all aggressive. They then escalate the situation by yelling at him, thinking that'll probably work. It doesn't. The suspect is still not at all aggressive. They then escalate more and threaten him with violence via a taser - when that doesn't work they add yelling The suspect is still not at all aggressive. They then escalate again by tasing him The suspect becomes defensive but doesn't attack They escalate again by macing him he still doesn't attack them and pleads for them to stop screaming for help They mace him again and wrestle him out of the car at which point he shoots them. --- If you think that's a great way to get a favorable result, that's the problem. To use it as justification for why police should attack first and ask questions later is beyond ignorance. If you consider yourself a person that always follows the law, and in the event you were accused of not doing so you'd be fully compliant, I can see how you'd take the side of the officers here and just naturally assume that they did everything correctly. Maybe according to the police handbook they did - or maybe they weren't even aggressive enough. Looking objectively at the situation though where they were in a stop with a person chronically in trouble with the law, I find it mind boggling that they would attempt to use escalating forms of violence and think that they aren't going to end up with a violent result for somebody. They pushed this guy inch by inch to be the worst person he could be. Nobody had to die there.I'm not going to say that they caused themselves to get shot. After all another person chose to do that to them. However, watching that training in action makes it pretty clear why we're in the situation we are right now with police brutality. They did everything that could to end that situation in bloodshed. I'm shocked it didn't escalate sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: They did everything that could to end that situation in bloodshed. I'm shocked it didn't escalate sooner. Answer my question. What would you have done? and what about my post was funny? Edited September 16, 2020 by Sig1Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, DFT said: Speaks rage, racism and prejudices; calls it “empathy” Yeah, we need a little Rule #2 evidence here. Otherwise we'll have to assume it's just another one of your hoaxy lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Answer my question. What would you have done? and what about my post was funny? He can't answer. They won't say it outright, but the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from the leftist position is that anytime a suspect refuses to be arrested the cops should let him go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Rob's House said: He can't answer. They won't say it outright, but the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from the leftist position is that anytime a suspect refuses to be arrested the cops should let him go. I know. It was a rhetorical question. He’s an example of the worst of us, mocking the death of one of the best of us. I’m willing to bet he harbors a certain amount of jealousy that Sgt Johnson had thousands honoring his memory at his funeral, with countless other standing roadside in honor of him... knowing full well, when his day comes, the pews will be empty and he will be forgotten and without a legacy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Empathy is what's made me so angry. So how angry are you at criminals or is this selective empathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: I know. It was a rhetorical question. He’s an example of the worst of us, mocking the death of one of the best of us. I’m willing to bet he harbors a certain amount of jealousy that Sgt Johnson had thousands honoring his memory at his funeral, with countless other standing roadside in honor of him... knowing full well, when his day comes, the pews will be empty and he will be forgotten and without a legacy. You don’t argue with Communists. Theres no merit to it. What *you* can do, is look away when those of us who can do something toss them out of helicopters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You don’t argue with Communists. Theres no merit to it. What *you* can do, is look away when those of us who can do something toss them out of helicopters. If you get thirsty and need a bottle of water, or two... just let me know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: They should have more selective recruiting and better training so that they don't murder innocent people. Or, y'know, comply with the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Or, y'know, comply with the police. No. Stop trying to reason with Communists. They want you dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No. Stop trying to reason with Communists. They want you dead. Solution? Helicopter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: No. Stop trying to reason with Communists. They want you dead. I'm with Pinochet. Load em up, send them somewhere safe where who knows what happens to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Rob's House said: He can't answer. They won't say it outright, but the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from the leftist position is that anytime a suspect refuses to be arrested the cops should let him go. "Resisting" is never considered a circumstance and the conclusion is typically the police action was motivated by racial bias without consideration or accounting for other factors. But this only happens when the suspect is black. If they shoot a white suspect nobody is out there saying they shot him because he was white. Take the Blake case. He's previously arrested on charges of sexual assault. A judge also orders a restraining order instructing him to not contact or harass the victim. But he does. He drives over to her residence with 3 kids in the back seat. Some reports suggest he was impaired. There is some kind of encounter between Blake and his victim. She calls 911. The cops show up. He's also got an outstanding felony warrant. They intend to arrest him. He is uncooperative and fights with the cops. He refuses to comply with their requests and instructions. They try to taser him but that fails. He walks around to the drivers side door of the vehicle to either get in and drive away or retrieve something. He's already indicated he has a weapon. He reaches in the vehicle and then the shots are fired. So the argument is the suspect never bears any responsibility in any way, shape, or form for the outcome of the encounter and the motivating factor for the shooting is always race regardless of the specific circumstance. Not a single voice in the media, sports, or the left, or for that matter anywhere has spoken the words I'm waiting to hear, "personal responsibility". Like you said, the insinuation is they should have just let him get in the vehicle and drive away. Add to this the silence from the "women should be believed" crowd that apparently have no concern for the women he attacked which is another liberal thinking inconsistency and I have to conclude they're all either irrational, liars, or stupid. When Kamala Harris visited him and called him a hero I wanted to puke my guts out after hearing her pander to a rapist. You might recall she took no such stance at the Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination hearings when landing questions about the allegations from Dr. Ford. Another hypocrite and major douche. Edited September 16, 2020 by All_Pro_Bills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Terrorist police organizations using "rubber bullets" have caused at least 115 head injuries to date at protests since George Floyd was murderedhttps://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/29cbf2e87b914dbaabdec2f3d350839e 10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: You might feel differently if it was your son that was gunned down by a predator. My sons know better than to protest for a drug addicted career criminal. 10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: So, you've got bullies, murderers, domestic abusers, animal killers and addicts whose job it is to decide who broke the law and whether or not they deserve to die and then you've got the "good guys" that turn a blind eye to this behavior, condone it, or actively support it, when two terrorist cops in Buffalo resigned their post over the suspension of their "brothers". Where they that way when they took the job or did dealing with the worlds trash on a daily basis make them that way? Maybe your empathy should go both ways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Gary M said: My sons know better than to protest for a drug addicted career criminal. Where they that way when they took the job or did dealing with the worlds trash on a daily basis make them that way? Maybe your empathy should go both ways Yes dealing with low-life degenerates, criminals, and thugs will de-sensitize a person. And now that everyone is suffering from some mental illness or delusion glorifying criminals and seeing them as good people it seems like an impossible job. I got news for them all, if they have a chance to rob or kill you it won't matter how much sympathy or good feelings you got about them. You're dead, period. Floyd was a career criminal home invader that held a gun to a pregnant women's stomach and threatened to kill her and her unborn child if she didn't cooperate. Now the guys revered as some kind of saint that got a hero's send off. Just sick minds at work. And Blake was a rapist and women abuser and now Harris called him a "hero". She doesn't seem to have an ounce of moral character in her. Disgusting. What the cops did to them wasn't right in my view but lets not pretend these guys were Boy Scouts. They're life-time career street criminals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The COMPTON attack on innocent sheriff’s deputies ended all of this! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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