GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: If they were all in, why trade Diggs?.......just saying Because they wanted to keep Anthony Harris and Harrison Smith together. They essentially had a choice... split that pair up and keep Thielen and Diggs or let Harris walk and keep their receivers. They will be hoping that Justin Jefferson can step right in but listening to Matthew Coller on WGR last week he said Jefferson has only really produced in the slot to this point in camp. I am a sceptic that Jefferson is ever really going to be a top level outside guy.... but he can be an excellent slot receiver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Buddo said: Not an exhorbitant price to pay, tbh. Depends though, on the sort of contract he gets. Maybe he simply just wanted out of Jax, and is prepared to be 'reasonable'. While I think we could have afforded the picks, I'm not sure adding another big contract into the mix, is the right move atm, not when we are going to be looking to pay our own soon - i.e. Milano and White. We have bolstered the pass rush this off season with Addison and Epenesa, so we should be good for this year. Just have to keep the eyes peeled for another young rusher in years to come, either draft or FA. Agreed. The question is: Do we trust McBeane’s drafting acumen in the future? I do. It’s the second through fourth round steals that will make or break this teams future and I’m feeling really good about that future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The draft picks aren't bad. I get the hesitancy from other teams based on the fact that it's a one year deal and will be extremely expensive if it turns into a long-term deal. I would have been happy to make this trade but I'm not mad we didn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, ALF said: Vikings cap now at -$6.4M with Ngakoue https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/cap/ i guess this just means they are cutting or restructuring Riley Reiff and / or Harrison Smith. I always considered Smith to be too valuable for the Vikes - so Riley is a more likely candidate. But maybe someone performed better in TC making the decision easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because they wanted to keep Anthony Harris and Harrison Smith together. They essentially had a choice... split that pair up and keep Thielen and Diggs or let Harris walk and keep their receivers. They will be hoping that Justin Jefferson can step right in but listening to Matthew Coller on WGR last week he said Jefferson has only really produced in the slot to this point in camp. I am a sceptic that Jefferson is ever really going to be a top level outside guy.... but he can be an excellent slot receiver. I get your point, it makes sense. But they just added a 17 million dollar salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because they wanted to keep Anthony Harris and Harrison Smith together. They essentially had a choice... split that pair up and keep Thielen and Diggs or let Harris walk and keep their receivers. They will be hoping that Justin Jefferson can step right in but listening to Matthew Coller on WGR last week he said Jefferson has only really produced in the slot to this point in camp. I am a sceptic that Jefferson is ever really going to be a top level outside guy.... but he can be an excellent slot receiver. just to complete the thought - a. they couldn’t keep all the players due to cap considerations b. they did receive decent trade compensation from the Bills c. Diggs was publicly unhappy and wanted a trade 3 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I get your point, it makes sense. But they just added a 17 million dollar salary. i think they decided based on TC performance that Reiff or Smith are not worth keeping - they did not know it at that time maybe? your questions are valid - i am also puzzled - the above is just my attempt at rationalizing Edited August 30, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I get your point, it makes sense. But they just added a 17 million dollar salary. Yep. They could have found a way to keep Diggs... but they want to run the ball a lot on offense they felt losing one of their two top end receivers was worth it to maintain and upgrade the defense. 4 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: your questions are valid - i am also puzzled - the above is just my attempt at rationalizing They are gonna run a lot. The Kubiak stretch zone scheme..... Cook is gonna get fed a LOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. They could have found a way to keep Diggs... but they want to run the ball a lot on offense they felt losing one of their two top end receivers was worth it to maintain and upgrade the defense. Yes, and the way the 49ers went to the Super Bowl may have played a part in their decision making process. It's a copycat league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Danielle Hunter apparently is injured. The team won't talk about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, scribo said: Shefty calls it. Minnesota's defense looking fierce. Beane's asleep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Expect a deal announcement soon. Gotta get under that cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 I thought we are past the deadline to renegotiate tagged players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 And now they have to pay him. Oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Expect a deal announcement soon. Gotta get under that cap. The article I read on ESPN said that the Vikes will be re-structuring the deal to create cap space this season. Not sure how that works under the franchise tender, but.... https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29771509/jaguars-agree-trade-de-yannick-ngakoue-vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: The article I read on ESPN said that the Vikes will be re-structuring the deal to create cap space this season. Not sure how that works under the franchise tender, but.... https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29771509/jaguars-agree-trade-de-yannick-ngakoue-vikings Anyone on the Vikes that could shake loose that we'd want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone on the Vikes that could shake loose that we'd want? Someone suggested that this could effect Reiff, but I doubt that he would be on the Bills radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane obviously doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing ? okay I’ll run with the theme, Of course he doesn’t, name me just one think he’s done that’s been of help to this team, the guy has whiffed at his every move, it’s just amazing that he was hired to begin with. Hell, WEO or Scottlaw would have done a better job.... (sarcasm off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: ? okay I’ll run with the theme, Of course he doesn’t, name me just one think he’s done that’s been of help to this team, the guy has whiffed at his every move, it’s just amazing that he was hired to begin with. Hell, WEO or Scottlaw would have done a better job.... (sarcasm off) It’s blunders like this one that makes me miss Tom Donahoe. At least he had the balls to make moves, like drafting McGahee in the first round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Albert Breer @AlbertBreer The Vikings and DE Yannick Ngakoue worked overnight on an adjustment to his franchise tender, landing at a little under $13 million. That's down from $17.778 million. And Minnesota made clear its intention to do a long-term deal in '21. So ... Ngakoue REALLY wanted out of Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: It’s blunders like this one that makes me miss Tom Donahoe. At least he had the balls to make moves, like drafting McGahee in the first round... Now that’s a good one, especially since Mcgahee so lived up to the expectations at the position, this started the run of RB acquisitions that were so needed, gotta like a GM with that level of a thought process... this could go in all day ? okay, it’s your turn again, ?? Go Bills!!! Edited August 30, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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