If Trump loses and refuses to leave

[TBBills]

Looks how quickly the republicans have run away from Trump now giving congratulations to Biden for winning the election.

3 hours ago, shoshin said:

 

You sound just like the Q-army. You get that right? 

 

On January 21, Biden will be president. Trump's supporters are the ones I worry about since many of them do not accept democracy any more. 

By the looks of them I don't see much to worry about. They are not very smart.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

[SectionC3]

5 hours ago, Q-baby! said:

Good morning. It’s Tuesday December 15, 2020 and Donald Trump is still a loser!!!! 😂😂😂

You forgot fat.  He is a fat loser.  Actually, he is a very fat loser.  Sad! 

On 12/13/2020 at 10:29 AM, shoshin said:

We have a lot people conspicuous in their silence too. Leaders in the R party who are taking the limp  stance offered by Lehnard that they did not take in 2016, and despite 57 (?) court losses, the sham press conferences, and the appeal to Twitter evidence.
 

It’s sad. 

 

If our democracy dies at the hands of the Trumpists, what a hero to follow into the depths. 

 

I completely agree with this.  Most will notice that I don't into policy arguments here (save for wear the mask or be considered a d-bag).  Trump is different, though.  This is about democracy and the core of the republic.  Silence in the face of this latest round of disgusting Trumpian nonsense is acquiescence.  

[Tiberius]

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/backlash-erupts-after-trump-posts-claim-threatening-georgia-republicans-kemp-and-raffensberger-with-jail/

 

President Donald Trump promoted the deranged idea that two Republican Georgia state officials could be put in jail over utterly baseless claims of election fraud, and Twitter noticed.

In a Tuesday morning tweet, pro-Trump attorney Lin Wood claimed that the president gave Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “every chance to get it right. They refuse. They will soon be going to jail.”

President Trump @realDonaldTrump is a genuinely good man. He does not really like to fire people. I bet he dislikes putting people in jail, especially “Republicans.”

He gave @BrianKempGA & @GaSecofState every chance to get it right. They refused. They will soon be going to jail. pic.twitter.com/7PMBLc8L2N

— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) December 15, 2020

 

To top it all off, Wood added a doctored image of the Georgia state officials donning masks with the Chinese flag printed on them, writing that Trump is “a genuinely good man” who “dislikes putting people in jail, especially ‘Republicans.'”

Trump, apparently not turned off by the egregious claim, retweeted the post — shocking pundits on both sides of the political aisle:

Impressive to continue to hit new lows in what’s being retweeted. An accomplishment.

— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 15, 2020

 

So the President is retweeting that nut Lin Wood who is calling for Brian Kemp to go to jail in Georgia. This really isn’t going to help the GOP in their effort to save the Senate and preserve the President’s legacy.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) December 15, 2020

 

And President Trump just retweeted this garbage about top Georgia Republican leaders being closet Communists headed to jail … #gapol https://t.co/pRhpsjpbnv

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) December 15, 2020

[Warcodered]

6 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Just sayin. This guy has a plan, do not be comfortable, he wants to be King, he has lied his way into the hearts of 70,000,000 citizens, he hates democracy and uses the press and social media better than anyone. 

Sorry if you don't want to hear it, but much of the world outside of US sees it that way.

I mean he just lost Mitch McConnel so I doubt this goes anywhere now.

[Iron Maiden]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/backlash-erupts-after-trump-posts-claim-threatening-georgia-republicans-kemp-and-raffensberger-with-jail/

 

President Donald Trump promoted the deranged idea that two Republican Georgia state officials could be put in jail over utterly baseless claims of election fraud, and Twitter noticed.

In a Tuesday morning tweet, pro-Trump attorney Lin Wood claimed that the president gave Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “every chance to get it right. They refuse. They will soon be going to jail.”

President Trump @realDonaldTrump is a genuinely good man. He does not really like to fire people. I bet he dislikes putting people in jail, especially “Republicans.”

He gave @BrianKempGA & @GaSecofState every chance to get it right. They refused. They will soon be going to jail. pic.twitter.com/7PMBLc8L2N

— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) December 15, 2020

 

To top it all off, Wood added a doctored image of the Georgia state officials donning masks with the Chinese flag printed on them, writing that Trump is “a genuinely good man” who “dislikes putting people in jail, especially ‘Republicans.'”

Trump, apparently not turned off by the egregious claim, retweeted the post — shocking pundits on both sides of the political aisle:

Impressive to continue to hit new lows in what’s being retweeted. An accomplishment.

— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 15, 2020

 

So the President is retweeting that nut Lin Wood who is calling for Brian Kemp to go to jail in Georgia. This really isn’t going to help the GOP in their effort to save the Senate and preserve the President’s legacy.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) December 15, 2020

 

And President Trump just retweeted this garbage about top Georgia Republican leaders being closet Communists headed to jail … #gapol https://t.co/pRhpsjpbnv

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) December 15, 2020

 

He is truly a despicable individual.....if you do not comply to his exact wishes...( facts not necessary ) .....you are scum....Can you imagine how bad it would have looked in any other Presidency to have POTUS fired his Chief of Election Security ( who belonged to the GOP ) because he would not go along with fraud claims.....for doing his job....just that move would mark an entire Presidency.....with Trump, it's a regular Wednesday.....destructive/divisive/false Bravado/Science Denying/lack of simple dignity............Trump has been a terrible mistake....  

[BillStime]

Well, when he does leave....

 

 

[shoshin]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/backlash-erupts-after-trump-posts-claim-threatening-georgia-republicans-kemp-and-raffensberger-with-jail/

 

President Donald Trump promoted the deranged idea that two Republican Georgia state officials could be put in jail over utterly baseless claims of election fraud, and Twitter noticed.

In a Tuesday morning tweet, pro-Trump attorney Lin Wood claimed that the president gave Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “every chance to get it right. They refuse. They will soon be going to jail.”

President Trump @realDonaldTrump is a genuinely good man. He does not really like to fire people. I bet he dislikes putting people in jail, especially “Republicans.”

He gave @BrianKempGA & @GaSecofState every chance to get it right. They refused. They will soon be going to jail. pic.twitter.com/7PMBLc8L2N

— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) December 15, 2020

 

To top it all off, Wood added a doctored image of the Georgia state officials donning masks with the Chinese flag printed on them, writing that Trump is “a genuinely good man” who “dislikes putting people in jail, especially ‘Republicans.'”

Trump, apparently not turned off by the egregious claim, retweeted the post — shocking pundits on both sides of the political aisle:

Impressive to continue to hit new lows in what’s being retweeted. An accomplishment.

— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 15, 2020

 

So the President is retweeting that nut Lin Wood who is calling for Brian Kemp to go to jail in Georgia. This really isn’t going to help the GOP in their effort to save the Senate and preserve the President’s legacy.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) December 15, 2020

 

And President Trump just retweeted this garbage about top Georgia Republican leaders being closet Communists headed to jail … #gapol https://t.co/pRhpsjpbnv

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) December 15, 2020

 

You'll see no criticism here from those of The Departed who occasionally still frequent this board. 

[BillStime]

 

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he just lost Mitch McConnel so I doubt this goes anywhere now.

Certainly a huge jump for MM and puts a hurt  on trump. 

Pence is the next big one....before Jan 6.

The US can then get on with good open fair and compromised debate. 

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Certainly a huge jump for MM and puts a hurt  on trump. 

Pence is the next big one....before Jan 6.

The US can then get on with good open fair and compromised debate. 

 

My guess is that McConnell believes that continuing to support Trump's attempts to steal the election is hurting rather than helping in the Georgia runoff elections -- or maybe that the runoffs are already lost because so many non-Trumpist Republicans are so disgusted with Trump's lies that they aren't going to bother to vote.

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

My guess is that McConnell believes that continuing to support Trump's attempts to steal the election is hurting rather than helping in the Georgia runoff elections -- or maybe that the runoffs are already lost because so many non-Trumpist Republicans are so disgusted with Trump's lies that they aren't going to bother to vote.

I think that what they've been doing has likely been seeing how far they can go with him so he doesn't just torpedo everything.

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

My guess is that McConnell believes that continuing to support Trump's attempts to steal the election is hurting rather than helping in the Georgia runoff elections -- or maybe that the runoffs are already lost because so many non-Trumpist Republicans are so disgusted with Trump's lies that they aren't going to bother to vote.

That would be a good thing....

[Doc Brown]

11 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

My guess is that McConnell believes that continuing to support Trump's attempts to steal the election is hurting rather than helping in the Georgia runoff elections -- or maybe that the runoffs are already lost because so many non-Trumpist Republicans are so disgusted with Trump's lies that they aren't going to bother to vote.

"The electoral college has spoken."  There's a bigger concern that the Texas lawsuit of trying to invalidate other states's votes may help pave the way to eliminating the electoral college.  Republicans can't win any time soon if that happens.  Just a thought.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

"The electoral college has spoken."  There's a bigger concern that the Texas lawsuit of trying to invalidate other states's votes may help pave the way to eliminating the electoral college.  Republicans can't win any time soon if that happens.  Just a thought.

 

I agree.  I have long been an advocate for getting rid of the Electoral College, but this bull crap about trying steal the election by disenfranchising voters in some states in order to manipulate the EC underscores one of the problems with indirect election of the POTUS.  It's time to move on to allowing Americans to vote directly for the President.   US Senators used to be elected by state legislatures, and when that proved to be easily corrupted, we changed the Constitution, and the country has been better for it.   It's time for the EC to go. 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

I agree.  I have long been an advocate for getting rid of the Electoral College, but this bull crap about trying steal the election by disenfranchising voters in some states in order to manipulate the EC underscores one of the problems with indirect election of the POTUS.  It's time to move on to allowing Americans to vote directly for the President.   US Senators used to be elected by state legislatures, and when that proved to be easily corrupted, we changed the Constitution, and the country has been better for it.   It's time for the EC to go. 

Would take a constitutional amendment, and that's a tall order. Let's work on turning Texas blue and enjoy the fruits!  

[Tiberius]

 

Quote

 

An air-conditioning repairman was driving his truck through Houston in late October when a black SUV suddenly slammed into his tail. When he got out, the SUV’s driver leaped out and pointed a gun at his head, police said.

 

When police arrived, the gunman offered an incredible tale: The driver, he said, was the face of a vast election-fraud scheme and had about 750,000 fake ballots stuffed inside his truck.

That story was totally bogus, police now say. The man’s truck was full of nothing but A/C parts, and the gunman — Mark Anthony Aguirre, a former Houston Police Department captain — had been paid more than $250,000 by a right-wing organization to pursue far-fetched voter-fraud conspiracy theories.

 

On Tuesday, Aguirre was arrested and charged with felony aggravated assault with a deadly weapon as part of a “bogus voter-fraud conspiracy,” the Harris County District Attorney’s Office said in a news release.

 

This really happened? 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/16/aguirre-texas-cop-election-fraud/

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I agree.  I have long been an advocate for getting rid of the Electoral College, but this bull crap about trying steal the election by disenfranchising voters in some states in order to manipulate the EC underscores one of the problems with indirect election of the POTUS.  It's time to move on to allowing Americans to vote directly for the President.   US Senators used to be elected by state legislatures, and when that proved to be easily corrupted, we changed the Constitution, and the country has been better for it.   It's time for the EC to go. 

Yup.  That Texas lawsuit signed by 2/3rds of the Republican Congress crossed a line and the Supreme Court rightly rejected it basically saying don't try this crap again.  I'm not with you on getting rid of the EC (yet) but if something like this happens again then Democrats need to fight back.  

Edited December 16, 2020 by Doc Brown

[Tiberius]

Opinion by 

Jennifer Rubin

Columnist

Dec. 17, 2020 at 10:00 a.m. EST

 

When “sensible” Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) responded to the electoral college vote on Monday by arguing that there was fraud in the election, but not enough to change the outcome, I knew where this was headed. If someone on the sane side of the bell curve in the Senate’s Republican caucus could float without a shred of evidence that there were “instances” of fraud, certainly more egregiously dishonest Republicans would advance that line. Sadly, I was not wrong.

 

On Wednesday, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, presided over a kangaroo court that set out to show the election was somehow tainted. The event was as fact-free and dishonest as Johnson’s claims about Ukraine during the campaign. It was also just as likely to serve Russian interests by undermining the American democracy.

Johnson called election lawyers for the Trump campaign, who failed to prove fraud in a single case. As CNN reported:

 Several of the witnesses who testified Wednesday — James Troupis, who represented the Trump campaign in Wisconsin; Jesse Binnall, who was [President] Trump’s attorney in Nevada; and GOP Pennsylvania state Rep. Francis Ryan — repeated many of the same claims about the election results that have been dismissed repeatedly in the courts as the Trump’s challenges have been rejected.

Not only did every single fraud claim lose in court, but in many instances, the Trump team denied it was even claiming fraud. Marc Elias of Democracy Docket, one of the lawyers who has prevailed in 59 cases against Trump’s claims, writes: “The legal claims being advanced were outlandish, unsupported in law or fact, and poorly lawyered. By the time the U.S. Supreme Court received Texas’ case, similar claims had been rejected by courts around the country, and the lawyers advancing them had become the subject of national ridicule.”

At one point, Johnson seemed to lose control and began hollering at Sen. Gary Peters (Mich.), the committee’s ranking Democrat, for having accused Johnson of spreading Russian disinformation. In the final refuge of Trump toadies raising wild accusations, Johnson insisted he was “just asking questions.”

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Opinion by 

Jennifer Rubin

Columnist

Dec. 17, 2020 at 10:00 a.m. EST

 

When “sensible” Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) responded to the electoral college vote on Monday by arguing that there was fraud in the election, but not enough to change the outcome, I knew where this was headed. If someone on the sane side of the bell curve in the Senate’s Republican caucus could float without a shred of evidence that there were “instances” of fraud, certainly more egregiously dishonest Republicans would advance that line. Sadly, I was not wrong.

 

On Wednesday, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, presided over a kangaroo court that set out to show the election was somehow tainted. The event was as fact-free and dishonest as Johnson’s claims about Ukraine during the campaign. It was also just as likely to serve Russian interests by undermining the American democracy.

Johnson called election lawyers for the Trump campaign, who failed to prove fraud in a single case. As CNN reported:

 Several of the witnesses who testified Wednesday — James Troupis, who represented the Trump campaign in Wisconsin; Jesse Binnall, who was [President] Trump’s attorney in Nevada; and GOP Pennsylvania state Rep. Francis Ryan — repeated many of the same claims about the election results that have been dismissed repeatedly in the courts as the Trump’s challenges have been rejected.

Not only did every single fraud claim lose in court, but in many instances, the Trump team denied it was even claiming fraud. Marc Elias of Democracy Docket, one of the lawyers who has prevailed in 59 cases against Trump’s claims, writes: “The legal claims being advanced were outlandish, unsupported in law or fact, and poorly lawyered. By the time the U.S. Supreme Court received Texas’ case, similar claims had been rejected by courts around the country, and the lawyers advancing them had become the subject of national ridicule.”

At one point, Johnson seemed to lose control and began hollering at Sen. Gary Peters (Mich.), the committee’s ranking Democrat, for having accused Johnson of spreading Russian disinformation. In the final refuge of Trump toadies raising wild accusations, Johnson insisted he was “just asking questions.”

 

With the US having been the victim of a massive cyber attack, most likely orchestrated by Russia, why the hell is the Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee wasting time and taxpayer money on non-existent  "massive voting fraud" that never happened? 

 

[Warcodered]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-has-threatened-not-to-leave-the-white-house-on-inauguration-day-report-says/ar-BB1c0vGb?ocid=msedgntp

[SoTier]

15 hours ago, Warcodered said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-has-threatened-not-to-leave-the-white-house-on-inauguration-day-report-says/ar-BB1c0vGb?ocid=msedgntp

 

The Traitor In Chief doesn't have the balls to do it.  He's nothing but a bully whose never been thwarted before but that changes about 12:04 PM on January 20, 2021.  

[TBBills]

17 hours ago, Warcodered said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-has-threatened-not-to-leave-the-white-house-on-inauguration-day-report-says/ar-BB1c0vGb?ocid=msedgntp

TBH I think he is really afraid of what is going to happen to him if he becomes a private citizen.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

[Q-baby!]

14 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

😂😂😂😂😂

Oh my! That is awesome! 😂😂😂😂😂

[Tiberius]

18 hours ago, Warcodered said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-has-threatened-not-to-leave-the-white-house-on-inauguration-day-report-says/ar-BB1c0vGb?ocid=msedgntp

Threatened?? 😂 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

20 hours ago, Warcodered said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-has-threatened-not-to-leave-the-white-house-on-inauguration-day-report-says/ar-BB1c0vGb?ocid=msedgntp

See , this story to me is 'enemy of the people' type propaganda.  Or at least, it's enemy of reasonable thought and easily accessible information. 

 

Here's a story from November:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-biden.html

 

So, on the one hand, CNN runs a story that reads like a bad National Enquirer story, complete with frustrated "aides" dropping f-bombs and but seemingly powerless to leave their position followed up with anonymous sources purported to opine about whether or not DJT will attend Biden's swearing in. 

 

On the other hand you have a direct quote from the president from a  press conference stating that he will leave, yet that doesn't make it into the CNN story.  

 

 

[Kemp]

 

Trump has checked out.

 

He's not doing his job.

 

He's causing America to be unprotected from cyber invasion.

 

In other words, nothing has changed since his inauguration.

 

In my opinion, the most corrupt and ineffective politician in American history in terms of negative impact on us.

[Unforgiven]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

 

Trump has checked out.

 

He's not doing his job.

 

He's causing America to be unprotected from cyber invasion.

 

In other words, nothing has changed since his inauguration.

 

In my opinion, the most corrupt and ineffective politician in American history in terms of negative impact on us.

Negative impact on the free rent he occupies in that one room apartment in your head....
Mitt Romney, lol. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

3 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Negative impact on the free rent he occupies in that one room apartment in your head....
Mitt Romney, lol. 

UNFORGIVEN!!!!

[TBBills]

22 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Negative impact on the free rent he occupies in that one room apartment in your head....
Mitt Romney, lol. 

I am surprised after being embarrassed on here so much you still come... I guess stupid people really don't know what Embarrassed means anyway.

[Backintheday544]

Trump asked Flynn about using the military to overturn the election:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/20/donald-trump-asked-michael-flynn-using-military-overturn-election/

 

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

My own choosen intelligence community says Russia is behind the breach in at least 5 major agencies computer systems, but I will tell the world my friend Putin did not do this it must be the Chinese CP. (AGAIN)

 

I am openly discussing Marshall law in 4 states (in the Oval office) where no unrest is taking place based on no evidence of fraud 

A convicted liar who I pardon is leading the talk of Marshall law

 

I am openly encouraging violence against elected officials who are not on my side

I am ignoring 18,000,000 illnesses and 300,000 deaths for my own political good

 

When does the word TREASON  come into play?

 

Just asking?

[SoTier]

On 12/18/2020 at 1:52 PM, Kemp said:

 

Trump has checked out.

 

He's not doing his job.

 

He's causing America to be unprotected from cyber invasion.

 

In other words, nothing has changed since his inauguration.

 

In my opinion, the most corrupt and ineffective politician in American history in terms of negative impact on us.

 

You left out that he has been and continues to be completely in thrall to Vladimir Putin.  His reaction to the reports that the Russians are behind the massive cyber attack suggests that he's sold out, at least emotionally, to Russia.  In the POTUS, that constitutes treason IMO.

 

3 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

My own choosen intelligence community says Russia is behind the breach in at least 5 major agencies computer systems, but I will tell the world my friend Putin did not do this it must be the Chinese CP. (AGAIN)

 

I am openly discussing Marshall law in 4 states (in the Oval office) where no unrest is taking place based on no evidence of fraud 

A convicted liar who I pardon is leading the talk of Marshall law

 

I am openly encouraging violence against elected officials who are not on my side

I am ignoring 18,000,000 illnesses and 300,000 deaths for my own political good

 

When does the word TREASON  come into play?

 

Just asking?

 

I've been calling him a traitor since the summer.  

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

My own choosen intelligence community says Russia is behind the breach in at least 5 major agencies computer systems, but I will tell the world my friend Putin did not do this it must be the Chinese CP. (AGAIN)

 

I am openly discussing Marshall law in 4 states (in the Oval office) where no unrest is taking place based on no evidence of fraud 

A convicted liar who I pardon is leading the talk of Marshall law

 

I am openly encouraging violence against elected officials who are not on my side

I am ignoring 18,000,000 illnesses and 300,000 deaths for my own political good

 

When does the word TREASON  come into play?

 

Just asking?

And we are suppose to believe this guy wouldn’t accept help from Russian and other autocratic monsters. 

 

We sure dodged a bullet with this election. Four more years of this pos and the republic might have been kaput 

1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said:

Trump asked Flynn about using the military to overturn the election:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/20/donald-trump-asked-michael-flynn-using-military-overturn-election/

 

 

 

I really hope NY state goes after this guy when he leaves office. Yo7 can’t try and destroy our republic and just get away with it 

[Kemp]

On 12/18/2020 at 3:31 PM, Unforgiven said:

Negative impact on the free rent he occupies in that one room apartment in your head....
Mitt Romney, lol. 

 

As you can see, Trumpites can never discuss facts because they all go against them.. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html

Martial law?

 

The cult continues, with the simple-minded continuing to obey their master.

[TBBills]

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

 

Trump turns on everyone

"Thelatest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Secretary of State Pompeo and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

 

Why it matters: Trump thinks everyone around him is weak, stupid or disloyal — and increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results. We cannot stress enough how unnerved Trump officials are by the conversations unfolding inside the White House."

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by TBBills

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, TBBills said:

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

 

Trump turns on everyone

"Thelatest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Secretary of State Pompeo and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

 

Why it matters: Trump thinks everyone around him is weak, stupid or disloyal — and increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results. We cannot stress enough how unnerved Trump officials are by the conversations unfolding inside the White House."

 

 

Pence started being the face of the administration last week.  That's smoke IMO.  Trump seems to be suffering some kind of mental breakdown, and somebody -- maybe Meadows or Kutchner -- needs to move to have him declared incapacitated and set the wheels in motion to invoke the 25th Amendment:

 

"4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

 

The alternative is that Trump continues listening to Flynn and Powell and tries to do something stupidly illegal for which he can be arrested for inciting rebellion or actually engaging in rebellion against the authority of the United States and its laws.

 

[TBBills]

55 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Pence started being the face of the administration last week.  That's smoke IMO.  Trump seems to be suffering some kind of mental breakdown, and somebody -- maybe Meadows or Kutchner -- needs to move to have him declared incapacitated and set the wheels in motion to invoke the 25th Amendment:

 

"4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

 

The alternative is that Trump continues listening to Flynn and Powell and tries to do something stupidly illegal for which he can be arrested for inciting rebellion or actually engaging in rebellion against the authority of the United States and its laws.

 

That would be fun to watch.

[SectionC3]

On 12/20/2020 at 9:18 AM, Tiberius said:

And we are suppose to believe this guy wouldn’t accept help from Russian and other autocratic monsters. 

 

We sure dodged a bullet with this election. Four more years of this pos and the republic might have been kaput 

I really hope NY state goes after this guy when he leaves office. Yo7 can’t try and destroy our republic and just get away with it 

 

I used to think that Trump should be left alone after leaving office so as to let the sleeping dog lie and avoid years of divisiveness that surely would flow from his prosecution.  Not anymore.  The voter fraud hoax is just too much for me.  And, to top it off, he won't lift a finger against the Russian hack for reasons known only to him and Putin.  So now I'm on the side of we need to prosecute him aggressively and see where things end up.  No more kid gloves for this fool.