Covid 19 vs Trump

[Back2Buff]

49 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It seems like a fairly simple concept what if COVID was way deadlier.

 

What if H1N1 was way deadlier?

[aristocrat]

14 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

Regardless of whether or not you think the media's coveraage of the virus is a "hoax," it's absurd the president of the United States is doing nothing at the moment while the virus spreads out of control throughout the entire country.

Tens of millions of people protested all summer with full support of the democrats.  It caused outbreaks but nobody says anything.  Nobody is innocent 

[SoTier]

36 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Tens of millions of people protested all summer with full support of the democrats.  It caused outbreaks but nobody says anything.  Nobody is innocent 

 

Those protests weren't orchestrated by the Biden campaign.  Joe Biden didn't make not wearing a mask a political statement.  Covid Donnie did.

[SoTier]

Be smart and get your flu shot.   Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing.

 

November 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 438,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by March 1, 2021.

November 8, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 399,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by February 1, 2021.

October 22, 2020 - The National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University reports that between 130,000 and 210,000 deaths from coronavirus could have been avoided with a better response from the US government policies and crisis messaging. (Avoidable Covid-19 Deaths)

October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly.

 

November 13, 2020 - 244,304 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1625.

November 12, 2020 - 242,679 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1171.

November 11, 2020 - 241,508 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1813.

 

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-12, 2020: 1536

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020:  800

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020:  726

 

November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day.

October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day.

 

November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus

October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus.

September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus.

July 1, 2020    -  127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

[aristocrat]

9 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Those protests weren't orchestrated by the Biden campaign.  Joe Biden didn't make not wearing a mask a political statement.  Covid Donnie did.

Biden has made the mask a statement. But cool deflection 

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Biden has made the mask a statement. But cool deflection 

Trump made it a political statement through a combination of his refusal to inconvenience himself and idiocy over how the media would obviously react to it. Then he doubled down because of course he did.

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Biden has made the mask a statement. But cool deflection 

If you cannot accept the fact that citizens are getting ill, many seriously with lifelong suffering, and some dieing and we can take steps to minimize the illness then there us no hope for you. Forget the politics.

If cancer could be reduced by 99% if people just had to wear a hat for 6 months I suppose you would refuse.

There is no excuse for people who refuse to help their neighbor, help their family, help their country, help their economy. People are dieing the economy is dieing not because of shutdowns, it is being destroyed because you refuse to help by wearing a mask, thus allowing this disease to spiral out of control.

Thanks pal. May the bird of paradise fly up your nose.

[Kemp]

16 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Whats the difference between airborne AIDS and COVID?  Really confused what makes the difference between HIV being airborne or COVID being airborne.

 

Not going to lie, it's tough to think like a liberal.  I can't go that low on the IQ scale.

 

It looks like it's tough for you to think at all.

 

It was a simple question. You either refuse to answer or you're incapable of answering.

 

Since it's tough for you to understand me, I will help you out. I just insulted you.

[aristocrat]

5 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

If you cannot accept the fact that citizens are getting ill, many seriously with lifelong suffering, and some dieing and we can take steps to minimize the illness then there us no hope for you. Forget the politics.

If cancer could be reduced by 99% if people just had to wear a hat for 6 months I suppose you would refuse.

There is no excuse for people who refuse to help their neighbor, help their family, help their country, help their economy. People are dieing the economy is dieing not because of shutdowns, it is being destroyed because you refuse to help by wearing a mask, thus allowing this disease to spiral out of control.

Thanks pal. May the bird of paradise fly up your nose.

buddy I’ve accepted what the virus is doing. My gf is a nurse and we’re in New Orleans where she’s treating these patients.  My point is neither side has done well with this virus.  People trying to blame trump or republicans for gatherings when all summer we saw millions protest and dems encouraging them.   Everyone just trying to throw ***** at each other

[Niagara Bill]

9 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

buddy I’ve accepted what the virus is doing. My gf is a nurse and we’re in New Orleans where she’s treating these patients.  My point is neither side has done well with this virus.  People trying to blame trump or republicans for gatherings when all summer we saw millions protest and dems encouraging them.   Everyone just trying to throw ***** at each other

Why do you mean neither side. Trump is in charge and has encouraged 70,000,000 supporters not to help their fellow citizens, hold rallies defying science, lie to the public every day, ridicule people wearing masks and undermining all efforts based on politics. He should be locked up. He thinks Hilary shoukd be locked up...what he has done is even more treasonous than her. THE REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME. Yes some protests, rallies sporting events, school boy parties all add to the problem. But the orangeman is in charge. Wearing masks and taking precautions would stop a lockdown from being necessary. He has put your gf at great risk. Thank her for her efforts and blame that friggen nut trump for putting her in danger again and again.

[Backintheday544]

30 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

buddy I’ve accepted what the virus is doing. My gf is a nurse and we’re in New Orleans where she’s treating these patients.  My point is neither side has done well with this virus.  People trying to blame trump or republicans for gatherings when all summer we saw millions protest and dems encouraging them.   Everyone just trying to throw ***** at each other

The US has one leader. He lied. People believed him. People died.

A leader leads. Trump failed as a leader. 

[aristocrat]

14 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Why do you mean neither side. Trump is in charge and has encouraged 70,000,000 supporters not to help their fellow citizens, hold rallies defying science, lie to the public every day, ridicule people wearing masks and undermining all efforts based on politics. He should be locked up. He thinks Hilary shoukd be locked up...what he has done is even more treasonous than her. THE REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME. Yes some protests, rallies sporting events, school boy parties all add to the problem. But the orangeman is in charge. Wearing masks and taking precautions would stop a lockdown from being necessary. He has put your gf at great risk. Thank her for her efforts and blame that friggen nut trump for putting her in danger again and again.

how many people protested? 15-20 million? All during the summer and all during the pandemic. As cases were rising.  Trump told em not to. Dems said go get out there.  Even fauci said the protests would cause cases.   

[Iron Maiden]

Trump flat out admitted he lied about the severity of COVID...it's on tape...we all heard it...yet, somehow, some still defend him.....So when he was saying it's just like the flu publicly, he was saying privately that is was much worse than the flu....so he was lying to the American public.....when he was saying " it will go away by Easter "...he was lying....He's basically saying that he didn't  trust Americans to make their own decisions when they have the facts....didn't want to create a panic....and now.....we learned not too long ago that it was a deliberate strategy concocted by his son in law.....We'll take the country back from the Doctors.....Playing with the life of people for political gain blew up in their face....and now, over 1000 Americans are dying every day from it....Trump's failure is there for all to see....

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Backintheday544]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

how many people protested? 15-20 million? All during the summer and all during the pandemic. As cases were rising.  Trump told em not to. Dems said go get out there.  Even fauci said the protests would cause cases.   

Trump told people to protest. He encouraged it. Don’t you remember his liberate tweets? 

[aristocrat]

6 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Trump told people to protest. He encouraged it. Don’t you remember his liberate tweets? 

 

ahh the worlds endless argument.  Nobody can admit their side ***** this up in any way 

[Backintheday544]

29 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

ahh the worlds endless argument.  Nobody can admit their side ***** this up in any way 

Why don’t you be the first? Just say Trump lied, people died, and his electoral chances were fried.

 

If Hilary was President, told people to protest and not wear masks Id be equally as upset with her.

[daz28]

42 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

ahh the worlds endless argument.  Nobody can admit their side ***** this up in any way 

One side protested injustice, the other side protested for the right to cause more harm, because for some reason they feel they deserve more freedom than others.  

[aristocrat]

26 minutes ago, daz28 said:

One side protested injustice, the other side protested for the right to cause more harm, because for some reason they feel they deserve more freedom than others.  

One side protested injustice and ended up getting countless people sick and killed.  The other side also did the same.   One side claimed the moral high ground as if they’re doing the lords work when in fact they ended up killing a lot of people. The other side was like we don’t care if we get it we’re still going out here.   

[Backintheday544]

36 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

One side protested injustice and ended up getting countless people sick and killed.  The other side also did the same.   One side claimed the moral high ground as if they’re doing the lords work when in fact they ended up killing a lot of people. The other side was like we don’t care if we get it we’re still going out here.   

Being asked to wear a mask to help everyone around you not die is an injustice? It’s a minor inconvenience.

 

January will come and we will have a leader that can actually lead during a national emergency. 

[aristocrat]

19 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Being asked to wear a mask to help everyone around you not die is an injustice? It’s a minor inconvenience.

 

January will come and we will have a leader that can actually lead during a national emergency. 

no the people were protesting racial injustice. The blm protests 

22 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Being asked to wear a mask to help everyone around you not die is an injustice? It’s a minor inconvenience.

 

January will come and we will have a leader that can actually lead during a national emergency. 

and the virus is spreading in all states red and blue with or without masks. Masks aren’t some serious defense against the virus they just help a small bit. But obviously every little bit helps

[daz28]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

One side protested injustice and ended up getting countless people sick and killed.  The other side also did the same.   One side claimed the moral high ground as if they’re doing the lords work when in fact they ended up killing a lot of people. The other side was like we don’t care if we get it we’re still going out here.   

What is the million maga march protesting?  An election result that Trumps own DHS said was the most secure ever??(which is going to get him fired)  Tons of them aren't wearing masks(wonder why).  The rallies were COMPLETELY unnecessary as well.  They didn't change one single vote, they were just there to whoop it up(not fight injustice).  Again, people trying to compare apples and rotten oranges.

 

Simple question: Does the guy who reported the secure election findings deserve to get fired for reporting facts, or do we file this under the he has every right to do things that are CLEARLY wrong and unamerican?  Can you even begin to imagine how untruthful the new Trump News Network is going to be???

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

What is the million maga march protesting?  An election result that Trumps own DHS said was the most secure ever??(which is going to get him fired)  Tons of them aren't wearing masks(wonder why).  The rallies were COMPLETELY unnecessary as well.  They didn't change one single vote, they were just there to whoop it up(not fight injustice).  Again, people trying to compare apples and rotten oranges.

 

Simple question: Does the guy who reported the secure election findings deserve to get fired for reporting facts, or do we file this under the he has every right to do things that are CLEARLY wrong and unamerican?  Can you even begin to imagine how untruthful the new Trump News Network is going to be???

The participants in the Million MAGA March are organizing and protesting as is their right under the Constitution.  It’s none of your concern why they are marching, unless of course you share their concerns. 
 

The simple reality is that if open air protests/riots the likes of which we saw this summer did not result in superspreader events, you have noting to fear.  Social distance, wear your mask, speak quietly indoors, keep your laughter light and don’t yell, and for God’s sake have your partner face south when you are facing north, assuming of course that’s not already your jam. 
 

You’ll be fine. 

[daz28]

11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The participants in the Million MAGA March are organizing and protesting as is their right under the Constitution.  It’s none of your concern why they are marching, unless of course you share their concerns. 
 

The simple reality is that if open air protests/riots the likes of which we saw this summer did not result in superspreader events, you have noting to fear.  Social distance, wear your mask, speak quietly indoors, keep your laughter light and don’t yell, and for God’s sake have your partner face south when you are facing north, assuming of course that’s not already your jam. 
 

You’ll be fine. 

So they probably shouldn't have tear gassed American citizens then for a photo op, right?  Am I allowed to be concerned when peaceful protesting Americans get tear gassed??  BTW, again, WHAT are they protesting??  Surely not something as American as free and fair election, right??

Edited November 14, 2020 by daz28

[aristocrat]

25 minutes ago, daz28 said:

What is the million maga march protesting?  An election result that Trumps own DHS said was the most secure ever??(which is going to get him fired)  Tons of them aren't wearing masks(wonder why).  The rallies were COMPLETELY unnecessary as well.  They didn't change one single vote, they were just there to whoop it up(not fight injustice).  Again, people trying to compare apples and rotten oranges.

 

Simple question: Does the guy who reported the secure election findings deserve to get fired for reporting facts, or do we file this under the he has every right to do things that are CLEARLY wrong and unamerican?  Can you even begin to imagine how untruthful the new Trump News Network is going to be???

why are you bringing up the election?  Are why can’t you admit the left handled it just as poorly?  It’s not that hard 

5 minutes ago, daz28 said:

So they probably shouldn't have tear gassed American citizens then for a photo op, right?  Am I allowed to be concerned when peaceful protesting Americans get tear gassed??  BTW, again, WHAT are they protesting??  Surely not something as American as free and fair election, right??

also, pre election you saw businesses boarding up in case of violence.  No violence to be seen at the maga rally. A very nice peaceful protest and no burning down cities.   Nice to see that right? 

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

why are you bringing up the election?  Are why can’t you admit the left handled it just as poorly?  It’s not that hard 

Cuomo got the largest city in America out of Covid danger(when we knew very little), and the Dakotas are a complete disaster right now.  Remember the initial "all blue states" crap Trump floated early on.  I do.  apples and rotten oranges yet again, but you won't admit that.    \

 

I'm bringing up the election, because there's no need for the people who consider themselves to be the 'real muricans' to be out protesting the safest election ever.  If you asked a founding father what's the most sacred of all things, they'd tell you free and fair elections.

Edited November 14, 2020 by daz28

[aristocrat]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Cuomo got the largest city in America out of Covid danger(when we knew very little), and the Dakotas are a complete disaster right now.  Remember the initial "all blue states" crap Trump floated early on.  I do.  apples and rotten oranges yet again, but you won't admit that.    

umm nobody handled it worse than cuomo. New York still has like 14 k more deaths than the next state. He should be in prison 

[Penfield45]

Remember when delusional conservatives back In august said we are coming to an end and refused to believe the 2nd wave of Covid will happen? 

constantly posting about the “death rate” like that even means anything 

 

And now we have record high in cases and hospitalizations. 

[daz28]

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

umm nobody handled it worse than cuomo. New York still has like 14 k more deaths than the next state. He should be in prison 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

 

He has the most populous city too.  Read that graph, and tell me with a straight face that red states handled it well.

Edited November 14, 2020 by daz28

[Penfield45]

14 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Tens of millions of people protested all summer with full support of the democrats.  It caused outbreaks but nobody says anything.  Nobody is innocent 

Wrong again

 

those protests didn’t cause nationwide outbreaks at all. 

[aristocrat]

Just now, daz28 said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

33k deaths 

Just now, Penfield45 said:

Wrong again

 

those protests didn’t cause nationwide outbreaks at all. 

that’s ignoring basic knowledge of this virus. 

[daz28]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

33k deaths 

that’s ignoring basic knowledge of this virus. 

Bro, if you're going to ignore facts I throw right at you, then there's no need to discuss.  North Dakota has nearly 3x the case rate.  AND THAT'S IN FREAKIN NORTH DAKOTA!!!  Are you saying if Cuomo was governor of ND they'd have more death???????  That doesn't even make sense.  

[aristocrat]

1 minute ago, daz28 said:

Bro, if you're going to ignore facts I throw right at you, then there's no need to discuss.  North Dakota has nearly 3x the case rate.  AND THAT'S IN FREAKIN NORTH DAKOTA!!!  Are you saying if Cuomo was governor of ND they'd have more death???????  That doesn't even make sense.  

33 thousand people dead compared to 700. 

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

no the people were protesting racial injustice. The blm protests 

 

 

I guess you missed all those maskless good ol' boys in Lansing, MI toting guns around the state capital building while chanting "Liberate Michigan".

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

22 minutes ago, daz28 said:

So they probably shouldn't have tear gassed American citizens then for a photo op, right?  Am I allowed to be concerned when peaceful protesting Americans get tear gassed??  BTW, again, WHAT are they protesting??  Surely not something as American as free and fair election, right??

I’m writing a book about the fragility of the liberal mind.  Let me know how this makes you feel, and you’ll be featured prominently in Chapter 6.  

 

“You’re allowed to carry any emotional baggage you want, but that don’t mean you get to take up my space in the overhead compartment.””

 

LS, PhD 

Internet Self-Help Guru 

 

Btw, don’t be offended you’re going to appear in Chapter 6, I already titled it “Teargas or Crocodile Tears?”. 

[daz28]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I’m writing a book about the fragility of the liberal mind.  Let me know how this makes you feel, and you’ll be featured prominently in Chapter 6.  

 

“You’re allowed to carry any emotional baggage you want, but that don’t mean you get to take up my space in the overhead compartment.””

 

LS, PhD 

Internet Self-Help Guru 

 

Btw, don’t be offended you’re going to appear in Chapter 6, I already titled it “Teargas or Crocodile Tears?”. 

So you're ok with the teargas then, but making a stand for protesting the safest election ever.  What's your book gonna be called?  Nonsense and more nonsense

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

59 minutes ago, daz28 said:

So you're ok with the teargas then, but making a stand for protesting the safest election ever.  What's your book gonna be called?  Nonsense and more nonsense

The book has yet to be titled, but I’m not hating what you’ve suggested.  To whit:
 

Your intolerance of peaceful protests, your intolerance of American voices uplifted in unison for a cause, while stumbling about blindly yelling that state-sponsored infection of our most vulnerable population, marks you as very easily manipulated.  
 

Your acceptance that the agonizing and lonely death certain to follow reflects a real crackerjack job of pandemic management marks you as gullible.
 

Further, when viewed in the context of support for protests this summer, Cuomo’s failure to address the hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets—no social distancing, poor mask discipline, shouting and screaming and In some cases rioting and looting—would by his own definition cause a massive spike in cases and deaths.  He’s knuckles deep in the death and chaos, but he’s got you out pimping for him. 
 

Chapter 7: Pay Attention, Dipsh8t.

 

”If ya always fall for what ya always fell for before, ya best get some bandaids because you’re about to skin your knee again. 

LS, PhD

Knower of Stuff 
 

Btw, it’s poor form not to address a question asked in good faith, and I believe you were sincere on the question regarding the trip to the Church. 
 

I think it’s fairly standard fare for a president to go where he wants to go, when he wants to go, and when he goes, the area is cleared.  I think, for example, if Joe Biden chose Albany to meet with Indira Ghandi- a definite possibility— I think his team would evaluate the route for threats, devise a route to travel and push forward with those plans. If I ran out in the middle of them street as the motorcade approached, I believe strongly that I would be dealt with swiftly and decisively, and the likelihood of injury to me would be high.  I do not believe the motorcade would stand down or seek and alternate route.  
 

Likewise, if a substantial number of activists rush to block the road, the response increases exponentially. 
 

So, I didn’t spend much time worrying about the response then, and don’t now.  I’m personally much more concerned about the “list” that AOC is compiling and what the fallout for being on that list might be.  It’s got a vaguely Khmer Rouge feel to it.  

Edited November 14, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[BullBuchanan]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thousands-rally-dc-support-outgoing-172704016.html

Tens of thousands flock to DC for the "0.02 Milliion MAGA Plod". Darwin could do us all a real solid and end Trumpism and COVID in one swift move here.

 

"The crowd was largely protesting "voter fraud," to "show support for our President" and to "preserve the integrity of the vote," according to various event pages. Trump has refused to concede and leveled baseless allegations of voter fraud to falsely claim the election was stolen from him.

 

Most participants were not wearing face masks, which prevent the spread of COVID-19. The massive crowd, filled with red Make America Great Again hats and large flags with Trump’s name, was an unusual site in the nation’s capital, a liberal city. Biden won D.C with 93% of the vote, according to the Associated Press."

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thousands-rally-dc-support-outgoing-172704016.html

Tens of thousands flock to DC for the "0.02 Milliion MAGA Plod". Darwin could do us all a real solid and end Trumpism and COVID in one swift move here.

 

"The crowd was largely protesting "voter fraud," to "show support for our President" and to "preserve the integrity of the vote," according to various event pages. Trump has refused to concede and leveled baseless allegations of voter fraud to falsely claim the election was stolen from him.

 

Most participants were not wearing face masks, which prevent the spread of COVID-19. The massive crowd, filled with red Make America Great Again hats and large flags with Trump’s name, was an unusual site in the nation’s capital, a liberal city. Biden won D.C with 93% of the vote, according to the Associated Press."

I bet they will try and say over a million people were there lol 

[daz28]

This goes for ALL the Covidiots nationwide:

 

[daz28]

The Republicans have gotten so scummy that they withheld Covid results from Democrats to avoid looking bad, which could result in the illness and death of their colleagues, colleagues families, and their constituents.  Complete scumbags, and I don't care if your left, right, or center, you know this was about as low as you can go:

 

"I do not understand why Senate Republicans chose to share positive cases only with members of their own party, putting staff and other senators at risk. We must put aside our differences and look out for our neighbors. At the end of the day, we're all Minnesotans."

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/outrageous-republicans-blasted-for-alerting-only-gop-side-about-covid-cases-in-minnesota-senate/ar-BB1b142X?ocid=msedgdhp