Covid 19 vs Trump

Q-baby! · November 15, 2020

Donnie death.

SoTier · November 15, 2020

9 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The book has yet to be titled, but I’m not hating what you’ve suggested. To whit:

Your intolerance of peaceful protests, your intolerance of American voices uplifted in unison for a cause, while stumbling about blindly yelling that state-sponsored infection of our most vulnerable population, marks you as very easily manipulated.

Your acceptance that the agonizing and lonely death certain to follow reflects a real crackerjack job of pandemic management marks you as gullible.

Further, when viewed in the context of support for protests this summer, Cuomo’s failure to address the hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets—no social distancing, poor mask discipline, shouting and screaming and In some cases rioting and looting—would by his own definition cause a massive spike in cases and deaths. He’s knuckles deep in the death and chaos, but he’s got you out pimping for him.

Chapter 7: Pay Attention, Dipsh8t.

”If ya always fall for what ya always fell for before, ya best get some bandaids because you’re about to skin your knee again.

LS, PhD

Knower of Stuff

Btw, it’s poor form not to address a question asked in good faith, and I believe you were sincere on the question regarding the trip to the Church.

I think it’s fairly standard fare for a president to go where he wants to go, when he wants to go, and when he goes, the area is cleared. I think, for example, if Joe Biden chose Albany to meet with Indira Ghandi- a definite possibility— I think his team would evaluate the route for threats, devise a route to travel and push forward with those plans. If I ran out in the middle of them street as the motorcade approached, I believe strongly that I would be dealt with swiftly and decisively, and the likelihood of injury to me would be high. I do not believe the motorcade would stand down or seek and alternate route.

Likewise, if a substantial number of activists rush to block the road, the response increases exponentially.

So, I didn’t spend much time worrying about the response then, and don’t now. I’m personally much more concerned about the “list” that AOC is compiling and what the fallout for being on that list might be. It’s got a vaguely Khmer Rouge feel to it.

Project much? Just because Trump (calls to arrest Hillary, Obama, Biden, etc) and his followers (chanting "lock her up" re MI governor Whitmer) want to arrest everybody who disagrees with them doesn't mean that people on the Left want to do the same thing.

6 hours ago, TBBills said:

I bet they will try and say over a million people were there lol

McEnany already tweeted that this afternoon.

BullBuchanan · November 15, 2020

9 hours ago, daz28 said:

This goes for ALL the Covidiots nationwide:

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I'm so sick of my friends and family blaming the governor for this while they went to memorial day BBQ's, 4th of July celebrations, Labor day BBQ's, Halloween Parties, and never stopped going to Bars and Restaurants. I don't even like Cuomo, but he's in an impossible position. It's the #VirusOver crowd that's caused my favorite pub, music venue, and gaming club to permanently shut down and they want to blame China, democrats, masks, socialism, free trade, whatever the flavor of the OANN day is.

I'm beyond ***** pissed. This whole pandemic could have been over in a month if adults in this country acted like responsible citizens. Instead they ***** all over the place and bitched about the mess. Meanwhile, I feel like the ####### for being the only one that's actually been trying to shelter in place (mostly) since February to do my part. Buy some groceries, get some booze/bud and watch Black Sails on Hulu. By the time everyone has finished the series, the pandemic is over and we all get to talk about the best show of the last 5 years together.

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Edited November 15, 2020 by BullBuchanan

SoTier · November 15, 2020

Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Be really smart and don't share your air.

November 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 438,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by March 1, 2021.

November 8, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 399,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by February 1, 2021.

October 22, 2020 - The National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University reports that between 130,000 and 210,000 deaths from coronavirus could have been avoided with a better response from the US government policies and crisis messaging. (Avoidable Covid-19 Deaths)

October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly.

November 14, 2020 - 245,614 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1310.

November 13, 2020 - 244,304 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1625.

November 12, 2020 - 242,679 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1171.

November 11, 2020 - 241,508 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1813.

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-12, 2020: 1536

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020: 800

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020: 726

November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day.

October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day.

November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus

October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus.

September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus.

July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

TBBills · November 15, 2020

I wonder how high a death % a virus would need to be to make everyone take notice... The lower the % is the less people care, even though they are showing this virus affects everything. As the time goes on they find more and more long term problems from this virus.

I think the only way you would get everyone to cooperate is if the death rate is high... WTF is that about?

Edited November 15, 2020 by TBBills

leh-nerd skin-erd · November 15, 2020

7 hours ago, SoTier said:

Project much? Just because Trump (calls to arrest Hillary, Obama, Biden, etc) and his followers (chanting "lock her up" re MI governor Whitmer) want to arrest everybody who disagrees with them doesn't mean that people on the Left want to do the same thing.

Well, Hillary’s actions might well have reached the standard of being illegal, but that ship sailed long ago. As for Governor Whitmer, many people are rightly concerned with governmental overreach and the destruction of their lives and livelihood. To my knowledge, none of the people in the crowd had any legal capacity to bring charges against her.

AOC is positioned quite well to directly and personally impact the lives of people she disagrees with politically. Her personal financial situation is not impacted whatsoever by a shutdown whether it lasts 30 days or 30 months. Politicians and enemies lists have a long and dark history in American politics.

WEATHER DOT COM · November 15, 2020

On 11/13/2020 at 11:04 PM, aristocrat said:

It caused outbreaks but nobody says anything.

You haven't shut up about it - so much so that you create a strawman to deflect away from the fact the current president is ignoring the virus right now.

Q-baby! · November 15, 2020

Are there anymore virus briefings or did the virus leave with the warm weather?

where is our leader?

SoTier · November 15, 2020

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

AOC is positioned quite well to directly and personally impact the lives of people she disagrees with politically. Her personal financial situation is not impacted whatsoever by a shutdown whether it lasts 30 days or 30 months. Politicians and enemies lists have a long and dark history in American politics.

Who, exactly, are you referring to with the statement, "politicians and enemies lists have a long and dark history in American politics"? Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon both had "enemy lists". Anybody who dares to disagree with Trump is on his "enemies list", and he wants many of them "locked up". Those three were/are all Republicans infamous for "enemies lists".

Off hand, I can't think of any notable Democratic politicians well known to have "enemies lists". Certainly not Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. At best, she can vote yea or nay on a shutdown ... if Congress even gets involved in that. The national shutdown back in March was by executive order.

BullBuchanan · November 15, 2020

5 hours ago, SoTier said:

Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Be really smart and don't share your air.

November 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 438,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by March 1, 2021.

November 8, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 399,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by February 1, 2021.

October 22, 2020 - The National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University reports that between 130,000 and 210,000 deaths from coronavirus could have been avoided with a better response from the US government policies and crisis messaging. (Avoidable Covid-19 Deaths)
October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly.

November 14, 2020 - 245,614 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1310.

November 13, 2020 - 244,304 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1625.

November 12, 2020 - 242,679 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1171.

November 11, 2020 - 241,508 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1813.

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-12, 2020: 1536

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020: 800

Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020: 726

November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day.
October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day.

November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus

October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus.

September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus.

July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

I hear you, but 'member Benghazi?

leh-nerd skin-erd · November 15, 2020

27 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Who, exactly, are you referring to with the statement, "politicians and enemies lists have a long and dark history in American politics"? Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon both had "enemy lists". Anybody who dares to disagree with Trump is on his "enemies list", and he wants many of them "locked up". Those three were/are all Republicans infamous for "enemies lists".

Off hand, I can't think of any notable Democratic politicians well known to have "enemies lists". Certainly not Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. At best, she can vote yea or nay on a shutdown ... if Congress even gets involved in that. The national shutdown back in March was by executive order.

You asked a question, then as if realizing on some subconscious level it was a dumb question, you powered through common sense and answered it for me on my behalf? Was your intention to reveal the silliness of my position by hilighting the accuracy of it? Well done? Thank you? Go So Tier?

I engaged when you appeared ready, moving you from the children’s table to the where the adults sit, but it’s impossible to ignore that you’re still eating your mashed potatoes with your fingers.

Be that as it may, enjoy the day (and the mashed pos)!

Backintheday544 · November 15, 2020

4 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

You haven't shut up about it - so much so that you create a strawman to deflect away from the fact the current president is ignoring the virus right now.

to be fair, he’s ignoring being a President now. Not just ignoring the virus.

Kemp · November 15, 2020

8 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

to be fair, he’s ignoring being a President now. Not just ignoring the virus.

To be fair, he's never been more than a selfish POS.

shoshin · November 15, 2020

No better way to combat COVID than another round of golf.

Backintheday544 · November 15, 2020

Washington state just announced massive lockdowns.

TBBills · November 15, 2020

51 minutes ago, shoshin said:

No better way to combat COVID than another round of golf.

He will let his mindless zombies handle the virus by using "Herd Immunity" at his Million MAGA March... As he was seen waving to them... As he was going to play golf.

daz28 · November 15, 2020

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You asked a question, then as if realizing on some subconscious level it was a dumb question, you powered through common sense and answered it for me on my behalf? Was your intention to reveal the silliness of my position by hilighting the accuracy of it? Well done? Thank you? Go So Tier?

I engaged when you appeared ready, moving you from the children’s table to the where the adults sit, but it’s impossible to ignore that you’re still eating your mashed potatoes with your fingers.

Be that as it may, enjoy the day (and the mashed pos)!

Please stop being so condescending. If people want to see DR type nonsense, they'd got to that forum to enjoy it. He has a good point that Trump absolutely rules with an iron fist, and smites all that disagree with him, basically controlling the actions of an entire party. You want to ignore that, and focus on one of 435 representatives who isn't even the leader of the leftist agenda.

aristocrat · November 15, 2020

6 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

You haven't shut up about it - so much so that you create a strawman to deflect away from the fact the current president is ignoring the virus right now.

he’s working on getting the vaccine out which has been our only hope since the beginning. He’s got the vaccine coming out fast and an excellent economy that he will get all credit for the next four years. We just can’t have Biden pass any more of his Crime bills that caused all the systemic racism and jail population increase or start any wars.

TBBills · November 15, 2020

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

he’s working on getting the vaccine out which has been our only hope since the beginning. He’s got the vaccine coming out fast and an excellent economy that he will get all credit for the next four years. We just can’t have Biden pass any more of his Crime bills that caused all the systemic racism and jail population increase or start any wars.

Stop trolling... You are what we call an extremist troll.

Edited November 15, 2020 by TBBills

Backintheday544 · November 15, 2020

We’re about to shut the country down again. This will be bad.

TBBills · November 16, 2020

1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said:

We’re about to shut the country down again. This will be bad.

I didn't get shut down before... Wonder that will happen this time.

BullBuchanan · November 16, 2020

2 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

We’re about to shut the country down again. This will be bad.

Again? When was the first time?

TBBills · November 16, 2020

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Again? When was the first time?

March... Kind of.

It sucks that these republican run states/government don't care about the virus until it's too late and overwhelms the hospitals.

But hey lets all go golfing and hold a huge maskless March.

BullBuchanan · November 16, 2020

2 minutes ago, TBBills said:

March... Kind of.

Not here. Not most places.

leh-nerd skin-erd · November 16, 2020

5 hours ago, daz28 said:Please stop being so condescending. If people want to see DR type nonsense, they'd got to that forum to enjoy it. He has a good point that Trump absolutely rules with an iron fist, and smites all that disagree with him, basically controlling the actions of an entire party. You want to ignore that, and focus on one of 435 representatives who isn't even the leader of the leftist agenda.

You’re asking me to ignore the fact that he took multiple shots at me, and implying I somehow owe him respect in some way/shape/form you deem appropriate.

That’s some first level Taylor Swift-angsty-fake-nice bs. I decline your request.

What I wrote was historically accurate. The fact that he acknowledged what I was saying while implying I was making something up simply resulted in me responding the way I like to respond—I mocked him.

As for your characterization of DJT, whatever.

Btw—The fixation on a poster long gone from this site is troubling. Let the anger go.

Q-baby! · November 16, 2020

12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You’re asking me to ignore the fact that he took multiple shots at me, and implying I somehow owe him respect in some way/shape/form you deem appropriate.

That’s some first level Taylor Swift-angsty-fake-nice bs. I decline your request.

What I wrote was historically accurate. The fact that he acknowledged what I was saying while implying I was making something up simply resulted in me responding the way I like to respond—I mocked him.

As for your characterization of DJT, whatever.

Btw—The fixation on a poster long gone from this site is troubling. Let the anger go.

That says it all about you cult members. Nothing matters!

Kemp · November 16, 2020

3 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

We’re about to shut the country down again. This will be bad.

Because things have been going so well.

Warcodered · November 16, 2020

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You’re asking me to ignore the fact that he took multiple shots at me, and implying I somehow owe him respect in some way/shape/form you deem appropriate.

That’s some first level Taylor Swift-angsty-fake-nice bs. I decline your request.

What I wrote was historically accurate. The fact that he acknowledged what I was saying while implying I was making something up simply resulted in me responding the way I like to respond—I mocked him.

As for your characterization of DJT, whatever.

Btw—The fixation on a poster long gone from this site is troubling. Let the anger go.

So just trying to get this straight the thing your upset about is AOC saying people should keep track of the people supporting Trumps BS claims trying to steal this election?

Because I mean no ***** how is that a terrible thing? I mean weren't you just using Biden's vote for the Iraq war against him? You know how we all know that....because we kept a ***** list of the people who did. So yeah if you are an elected official and are out there supporting Trumps efforts to steal this election you should absolutely have to wear that down the line.

leh-nerd skin-erd · November 16, 2020

27 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So just trying to get this straight the thing your upset about is AOC saying people should keep track of the people supporting Trumps BS claims trying to steal this election?

Because I mean no ***** how is that a terrible thing? I mean weren't you just using Biden's vote for the Iraq war against him? You know how we all know that....because we kept a ***** list of the people who did. So yeah if you are an elected official and are out there supporting Trumps efforts to steal this election you should absolutely have to wear that down the line.

I wasn’t using Biden’s vote against him, I was laughing at your contention that an appearance on a Howard Stern show was somehow equivalent to an experienced US Senator analyzing all available intelligence and voting to gear up the war machine. I supported the war effort, at least insofar as Saddam Hussein was thumbing his nose at the international community and that lead a reasonable person to believe he was producing weapons of mass destruction.

The question isn’t what he said or did then, it’s how it’s viewed through the prism of time. My philosophy on W Bush, who I voted for twice and politics in general has evolved over the years. Pre-Trump, I was headed down the road that there really are just some major players calling the shots, keeping people like you and me swinging at each other. Bill Clinton. Obama hires Hillary, Hillary is the heir apparent. HW Bush. W Bush. Jeb Bush. It made me a bit nauseous to be honest.

So, as I said earlier before another scurrilous attack, I watched folks on your side get all lathered up with BHO’s Hope N Change shtick. He ran in the W is a war criminal platform, then quietly all is forgotten. Dude, I’m asking you—was W Bush the war for oil guy or not? And if he was, why the f didn’t Obama steamroll him using the full might and power of the Oval Office? Today though, thick as theives, W suggesting Biden is a man of character. The problem is, I recall what Biden said about him—was it true what this man if character said?

Anyway, same questions exist with Biden, he was part of the game then, the war in retrospect was a massive mistake and I think he needs to answer on it. I do not think DJT on Stern reveals anything, has nothing to do with anything, and is a silly talking point. I needed no additional reasons to think he’s unfit for office.

I’ve moved further down the road that there aren’t Ds and Rs, just shades of the same ***** color. The fact that 70m people voted for an over-ripened Joe Biden for president—one laughed off the stage when he first ran decades ago during the Pet Rock era, convinces me even more.

As for Das Enemies List, I feel the way I do because these people destroy lives for sport.

Q-baby! · November 16, 2020

19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I wasn’t using Biden’s vote against him, I was laughing at your contention that an appearance on a Howard Stern show was somehow equivalent to an experienced US Senator analyzing all available intelligence and voting to gear up the war machine. I supported the war effort, at least insofar as Saddam Hussein was thumbing his nose at the international community and that lead a reasonable person to believe he was producing weapons of mass destruction.

The question isn’t what he said or did then, it’s how it’s viewed through the prism of time. My philosophy on W Bush, who I voted for twice and politics in general has evolved over the years. Pre-Trump, I was headed down the road that there really are just some major players calling the shots, keeping people like you and me swinging at each other. Bill Clinton. Obama hires Hillary, Hillary is the heir apparent. HW Bush. W Bush. Jeb Bush. It made me a bit nauseous to be honest.

So, as I said earlier before another scurrilous attack, I watched folks on your side get all lathered up with BHO’s Hope N Change shtick. He ran in the W is a war criminal platform, then quietly all is forgotten. Dude, I’m asking you—was W Bush the war for oil guy or not? And if he was, why the f didn’t Obama steamroll him using the full might and power of the Oval Office? Today though, thick as theives, W suggesting Biden is a man of character. The problem is, I recall what Biden said about him—was it true what this man if character said?

Anyway, same questions exist with Biden, he was part of the game then, the war in retrospect was a massive mistake and I think he needs to answer on it. I do not think DJT on Stern reveals anything, has nothing to do with anything, and is a silly talking point. I needed no additional reasons to think he’s unfit for office.

I’ve moved further down the road that there aren’t Ds and Rs, just shades of the same ***** color. The fact that 70m people voted for an over-ripened Joe Biden for president—one laughed off the stage when he first ran decades ago during the Pet Rock era, convinces me even more.

As for Das Enemies List, I feel the way I do because these people destroy lives for sport.

Actually the 70 million people voted for an over ripened pumpkin. Closer to 80 million voted for Biden.

Warcodered · November 16, 2020

7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I wasn’t using Biden’s vote against him, I was laughing at your contention that an appearance on a Howard Stern show was somehow equivalent to an experienced US Senator analyzing all available intelligence and voting to gear up the war machine. I supported the war effort, at least insofar as Saddam Hussein was thumbing his nose at the international community and that lead a reasonable person to believe he was producing weapons of mass destruction.

The question isn’t what he said or did then, it’s how it’s viewed through the prism of time. My philosophy on W Bush, who I voted for twice and politics in general has evolved over the years. Pre-Trump, I was headed down the road that there really are just some major players calling the shots, keeping people like you and me swinging at each other. Bill Clinton. Obama hires Hillary, Hillary is the heir apparent. HW Bush. W Bush. Jeb Bush. It made me a bit nauseous to be honest.

So, as I said earlier before another scurrilous attack, I watched folks on your side get all lathered up with BHO’s Hope N Change shtick. He ran in the W is a war criminal platform, then quietly all is forgotten. Dude, I’m asking you—was W Bush the war for oil guy or not? And if he was, why the f didn’t Obama steamroll him using the full might and power of the Oval Office? Today though, thick as theives, W suggesting Biden is a man of character. The problem is, I recall what Biden said about him—was it true what this man if character said?

Anyway, same questions exist with Biden, he was part of the game then, the war in retrospect was a massive mistake and I think he needs to answer on it. I do not think DJT on Stern reveals anything, has nothing to do with anything, and is a silly talking point. I needed no additional reasons to think he’s unfit for office.

I’ve moved further down the road that there aren’t Ds and Rs, just shades of the same ***** color. The fact that 70m people voted for an over-ripened Joe Biden for president—one laughed off the stage when he first ran decades ago during the Pet Rock era, convinces me even more.

So this seems to be more of a tangent on something different you want to discuss and really glosses over what I was saying completely.

As to actually discussing it I'd say the idea that these families have some sort of inside track for the Presidency is absolutely true. But I mean it's not exactly any different than families who for generations do other jobs. They have a built upon knowledge, experience, and connections to draw on that give them an advantage. But in the end we're still the idiots that vote for them.

For George W not getting in trouble for the War I'd say that might be more him not doing some explicitly illegal. I mean the intel we were given was bad and they were absolutely pushing us into it hard, but in the end it went through the proper channels. I mean it might suck but without any actual evidence of them illegally getting us into the war, congress and even Obama were going to be rather reluctant to charge a President for using the powers they gave him.

8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

As for Das Enemies List, I feel the way I do because these people destroy lives for sport.

If you're referring to cancel culture and people being too sensitive then yeah that is a thing but it's not really this thing. This is to me more about actual politicians supporting Trumps evidence less corrupt fraud claims in his attempt to subvert this election, and that being something they absolutely have to explain and have hang over them.

SoTier · November 16, 2020