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3 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

Compton is a very dangerous place and a hotbed of gang activity.  BLM showing up so quickly shows how well organized this movement has become.  One thing they have failed to achieve to this point is to manufacture any martyrs for the cause.  One unmet objective is to goad police or other "white" authorities into reacting to their stupid and uncivilized displays of hatred such as this demonstration at the hospital.  Another key message here is the left can "hate" but nobody else is allowed.  

 

At the end of the day the defund the police movement has little if anything to do with police brutality and misconduct.  Its all a big snow-job.  The left has been able to infiltrate or control almost every other public sector organization with the glaring exception of local and state law enforcement organizations.  So absent their ability to seed these departments with Social Justice liberal thinkers the only remaining option is to eliminate or shrink the ability of these police organizations to resist the leftist message.  If it results in more crime and killings that's just the cost in their the means justify the end approach to re-engineering U.S. society.  If you view everything trough the lens of this objective it all becomes clearer.  For example, in 2 generations they have transformed public sector education through control of school boards and teachers unions from places of learning to social indoctrination centers.  They control local and state governments, a large percentage of the judicial, higher education, local and state and federal prosecutors, the military (especially the Navy) and on and on.  Find one other institution the left doesn't exert control over other than the police.  And maybe control of the White House.  These are more or less their last two targets before liberal mission accomplished.   

 

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POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

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8 minutes ago, ALF said:

POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

Creativity will help. That's nice to see 

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9 minutes ago, ALF said:

POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

Good luck if the mentally I'll person has a gun. 

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2 hours ago, ALF said:

POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

Have they tested it on Karlos Williams?

Posted
3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Creativity will help. That's nice to see 

It's a 39 year old suggestion, Laughing Boy. One wonders if it was ever tried and if so, what the results were?

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4 hours ago, ALF said:

POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

I'm seeing the opportunity for a new reality TV series.  Call it "Nets and Nuts".  Add in sports betting on which cop will net the mentally disturbed suspect and you might have a hit replacement for all the shows that cancelled filming because of COVID. 

Or maybe the city can consider avoiding the problem altogether by evaluating their policy that puts these mentally disturbed people out in the streets and avoids giving them the care and treatment they need. 

Edited by All_Pro_Bills
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I have a few questions for the "defund police" activists.

 

1. What police force(s) do you want defunded?

 

2. What is their current operating budget?

 

3. What is the optimal budget for a police force for the area(s)?

 

4. What data did you use to arrive at your answers?

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, ALF said:

POLICE IN CITY WILL USE NETS TO SUBDUE THE DERANGED
By Barbara Basler
Jan. 27, 1981


New York City police officers, who have been forced to handle a growing number of cases involving mentally disturbed people, will begin using fire extinguishers and huge nets this week when they answer such calls.

 

Officials said the fire extinguishers contained a harmless bicarbonate-of-soda mixture that is sprayed at the person to disorient him while a 10-by-14-foot net is cast over him.

 

Three ropes are attached to the net so that it can be pulled taut, throwing the person to the ground with his arms pinned to his sides. Patrick J. Murphy, chief of operations of the New York Police Department said that it handled 21,000 ''E.D.P.'' - emotionally disturbed person'' - calls in 1980. He said the department had been searching for ways to subdue violent or threatening deranged persons without harming them or endangering the police.

 

He said he believed the nets would will prove effective, but acknowledged that ''they may be controversial.'' ''It doesn't look too nice when you see a fellow enveloped in a cloud of smoke and netted - almost like an animal,'' he said, ''but all this is is an attempt not to hurt these people.'

 

But the doctor, who asked to remain unidentified, conceded that ''the police have a tough job, trying to control the uncontrollable,'' and he said ''this might be a good answer.''

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/27/nyregion/police-in-city-will-use-nets-to-subdue-the-deranged.html

 

...bet DiBlasio is their FIRST CATCH....stay tuned...............

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm seeing the opportunity for a new reality TV series.  Call it "Nets and Nuts".  Add in sports betting on which cop will net the mentally disturbed suspect and you might have a hit replacement for all the shows that cancelled filming because of COVID. 

Or maybe the city can consider avoiding the problem altogether by evaluating their policy that puts these mentally disturbed people out in the streets and avoids giving them the care and treatment they need. 

Just watch Yellowstone. They still use the lasso.

Posted
3 hours ago, Rob's House said:

I have a few questions for the "defund police" activists.

 

1. What police force(s) do you want defunded?

 

2. What is their current operating budget?

 

3. What is the optimal budget for a police force for the area(s)?

 

4. What data did you use to arrive at your answers?

They have no clue.  My suggestion is put the idea to a vote of the citizens living in the communities instead of bowing to the wishes of political activists from out-of-town.  Polls indicate putting the question on the ballot for voters to decide would result in the idea being soundly defeated by about 80% against to 20% for.

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2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

They have no clue.  My suggestion is put the idea to a vote of the citizens living in the communities instead of bowing to the wishes of political activists from out-of-town.  Polls indicate putting the question on the ballot for voters to decide would result in the idea being soundly defeated by about 80% against to 20% for.

 

And it would only be that high voting "for" because they'd use illegal voting...

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