Cinga Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 We need more law enforcement to stand down over these Unconstitutional Orders. https://thescoop.us/watch-california-police-officers-at-anti-lockdown-protest-appear-to-stand-down-after-marine-vet-with-megaphone-challenges-their-integrity/ 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 PRIVATE GET-TOGETHERS NOW VERBOTEN IN CHICAGO: No, It’s Not Heinrich Himmler; It’s Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Issuing a Warning to Constituents. “I’ve directed Superintendent Brown to order all police districts to give special attention to these parties and this is how it’s going to be. We will shut you down. We will cite you and if we need to, we will arrest you and we take you to jail. Period. There should be nothing ambiguous about that. Don’t make us treat you like a criminal. But if you act like a criminal and you violate the law, and you refuse to do what’s necessary to save lives in the city in the middle of a pandemic, we will take you to jail. Period.” 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: PRIVATE GET-TOGETHERS NOW VERBOTEN IN CHICAGO: No, It’s Not Heinrich Himmler; It’s Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Issuing a Warning to Constituents. “I’ve directed Superintendent Brown to order all police districts to give special attention to these parties and this is how it’s going to be. We will shut you down. We will cite you and if we need to, we will arrest you and we take you to jail. Period. There should be nothing ambiguous about that. Don’t make us treat you like a criminal. But if you act like a criminal and you violate the law, and you refuse to do what’s necessary to save lives in the city in the middle of a pandemic, we will take you to jail. Period.” The Mayor of the city that just released 1,300 actual criminals from jail to slow spread of Covid 19. How ironic of a statement. To heck with freedom of assembly in Chicago; it seems. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 11:56 AM, RochesterRob said: I don't see malls, casinos, and churches opening any time soon here in NY. Insanity 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Houston-Area Judge Urges Citizens To Inform On Businesses Open ‘That Shouldn’t Be’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/houston-area-judge-urges-citizens-to-inform-on-businesses-open-that-shouldnt-be?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 LET’S GET BACK TO WORK: Nobel Prize-winning scientist shares COVID-19 data showing strict lockdowns were an overreaction. “…the damage done by lockdown will exceed any saving of lives by a huge factor.” So, how do the folks who keep saying those who want to open back are crazy react ? . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cinga Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 11:56 AM, RochesterRob said: I don't see malls, casinos, and churches opening any time soon here in NY. Malls and Casinos okay.... But there is nothing anyone can do to keep churches closed. They are closed now of their own decision, and can open at any time they want, by their own decision. This is stated twice in the First Amendment as a religion, and as the right to assemble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Cinga said: Malls and Casinos okay.... But there is nothing anyone can do to keep churches closed. They are closed now of their own decision, and can open at any time they want, by their own decision. This is stated twice in the First Amendment as a religion, and as the right to assemble. You are correct. But I am afraid there are many Governors who won't care. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: You are correct. But I am afraid there are many Governors who won't care. . yeah, unfortunately.... but it's about time for AG Barr to step up to the plate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 TYLER O’NEIL: What’s the Real Story Behind Continuing Lockdowns? “While the lockdowns began as a public health measure, their continued extension appears to have more to do with power than safety.” Lots of good stuff here from Tyler, well put together. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 So is it up to the states or the feds to set policy here? The see-sawing without a plan is unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: TYLER O’NEIL: What’s the Real Story Behind Continuing Lockdowns? “While the lockdowns began as a public health measure, their continued extension appears to have more to do with power than safety.” Lots of good stuff here from Tyler, well put together. ^^^This. It’s about power and politics; “ safe” and “ safety” have become the most overused terms by lefty politicians. It’s a falsehood, and it’s being used to justify outrageous power grabs. There is no being “ safe” from this (or any other )virus. We won’t be any safer a month or two or six from now than we currently are. It’s a stall tactic, and it’s also a lie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnot78 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: it’s about time. We will see how long it lasts now that Virginia has announced they will be counting all positive tests as new cases, even if it is they same person given a test in consecutive days. It will make it look worse than it is 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, B-Man said: SALENA ZITO: On Virginia-Tennessee border, one side is now open for business while the other is still on lockdown. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: The Mayor of the city that just released 1,300 actual criminals from jail to slow spread of Covid 19. How ironic of a statement. To heck with freedom of assembly in Chicago; it seems. ..why would ANYTHING Chicago or Illinois surprise you?......Obama and Emanuel were innocent victims of locaton, location, location.... Why Congress should reject Illinois’ $44 billion bailout request Adam Schuster-ILLINOIS POLICY Director of Budget and Tax Research Two decades of fiscal mismanagement have left state finances ill-prepared for the COVID-19 pandemic. Congress should condition any additional aid for troubled states on taxpayer protections that ensure pensions are solvent, accounting is realistic and budgets are balanced. Now, with fallout from COVID-19 exposing that mismanagement, Illinois Senate President Don Harmon wants a federal bailout worth at least $44.2 billion. Without strict consumer protections against risky bets, insider deals and other predatory behavior from state lawmakers, a bailout for Illinois or other states struggling with fiscal crises of their own making would be ineffective and harmful to residents already suffering under a broken system. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/why-congress-should-reject-illinois-44-billion-bailout-request/ The Most Corrupt States In America Feb 19, 2020,06:40am EST Niall McCarthy Forbes Contributor A new report from the University of Chicago has shed light on the U.S. cities and states with the most public-sector corruption. Co-authored by UIC professor and political advisor Dick Simpson, the report is based on an analysis of public corruption statistics released by the U.S. Department of Justice. Across all states and Federal Judicial Districts in the United States, there have been 19,634 public corruption convictions over the past ten years. In 2018 alone, 695 public official, federal employees and government contractors were convicted of public corruption. The research found that Chicago remains the most corrupt city in the United States with the Illinois-Northern Judicial District recording 1,750 public corruption convictions from 1976 to 2018. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/02/19/the-most-corrupt-states-in-america-infographic/#558443f42101 Edited May 4, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: So is it up to the states or the feds to set policy here? The see-sawing without a plan is unfortunate. Not sure where the confusion lies. It’s up to the states to set policy and the federal government sets guidelines. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Magox said: Not sure where the confusion lies. It’s up to the states to set policy and the federal government sets guidelines. Sybil isn't exactly sure which voice in her head is currently narrating... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 hours ago, B-Man said: LET’S GET BACK TO WORK: Nobel Prize-winning scientist shares COVID-19 data showing strict lockdowns were an overreaction. “…the damage done by lockdown will exceed any saving of lives by a huge factor.” So, how do the folks who keep saying those who want to open back are crazy react ? . I believe that today's talking point is that anyone who wants to open back up are violent white supremacist Nazis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Q-baby! Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: So, like Dr.Trump being able to walk down fifth Avenue and shoot someone and not lose any voters. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 No one should be surprised............. The lie: Former New Yorker writer Talia Lavin posted a picture of an April 20 demonstration in Pittsburgh, protesting Gov. Tom Wolf’s nearly two-month-long stay-at-home order and shutdown of nonessential businesses. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette photographer Andrew Rush attended the rally and posted pictures of the event on Twitter. One of the pictures Lavin shared on her Twitter account features Jill Cooper of Murrysville, a longtime conservative activist and Trump supporter, holding a sign that read: “Work Sets You Free,” the English translation of the German slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei” that is displayed over the entrance of the Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp. The truth: Independent Oregon journalist Andy Ngo, however, revealed that Lavin’s photo was doctored and posted the original photo showing Cooper holding a sign that actually read: “Free Small Business.” “This sign in Pittsburgh was doctored & circulated online to have a Nazi concentration camp slogan. Real photo on the right by photographer Andrew Rush. People are working overdrive to smear all “reopen America” protesters as fascists. When they can’t find them, they create them,” Ngo wrote. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dubs Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 10 hours ago, B-Man said: No one should be surprised............. The lie: Former New Yorker writer Talia Lavin posted a picture of an April 20 demonstration in Pittsburgh, protesting Gov. Tom Wolf’s nearly two-month-long stay-at-home order and shutdown of nonessential businesses. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette photographer Andrew Rush attended the rally and posted pictures of the event on Twitter. One of the pictures Lavin shared on her Twitter account features Jill Cooper of Murrysville, a longtime conservative activist and Trump supporter, holding a sign that read: “Work Sets You Free,” the English translation of the German slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei” that is displayed over the entrance of the Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp. The truth: Independent Oregon journalist Andy Ngo, however, revealed that Lavin’s photo was doctored and posted the original photo showing Cooper holding a sign that actually read: “Free Small Business.” “This sign in Pittsburgh was doctored & circulated online to have a Nazi concentration camp slogan. Real photo on the right by photographer Andrew Rush. People are working overdrive to smear all “reopen America” protesters as fascists. When they can’t find them, they create them,” Ngo wrote. I really don't understand the logic of the people behind the "smear the 'reopen America' protesters" as fascist" at ALL. It's illogical. If you think about a spectrum of complete liberty on one end and complete government control on the other end, fascism and all forms of communism/socialism are at the far end of one side. The "reopen America" protesters are advocating for the exact opposite of that, which is to say they want their life back, they want their freedoms back and they want their liberty. The people who are fighting to remain closed are much closer to fascist, advocating for the government to keep business closed, keep people in their homes, and essentially tell us what we can and cannot do. Now, I am not saying that everyone that wants society to remain on lockdown are in fact fascist, I don't believe that is the case at all. I think the vast majority of those people are well-intentioned folks who are simply scared. I get that. But calling the other side "fascist" makes absolutely no sense at all. They are the exact opposite of fascist, which is what makes those claims ludicrous. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, B-Man said: No one should be surprised............. The lie: Former New Yorker writer Talia Lavin posted a picture of an April 20 demonstration in Pittsburgh, protesting Gov. Tom Wolf’s nearly two-month-long stay-at-home order and shutdown of nonessential businesses. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette photographer Andrew Rush attended the rally and posted pictures of the event on Twitter. One of the pictures Lavin shared on her Twitter account features Jill Cooper of Murrysville, a longtime conservative activist and Trump supporter, holding a sign that read: “Work Sets You Free,” the English translation of the German slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei” that is displayed over the entrance of the Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp. The truth: Independent Oregon journalist Andy Ngo, however, revealed that Lavin’s photo was doctored and posted the original photo showing Cooper holding a sign that actually read: “Free Small Business.” “This sign in Pittsburgh was doctored & circulated online to have a Nazi concentration camp slogan. Real photo on the right by photographer Andrew Rush. People are working overdrive to smear all “reopen America” protesters as fascists. When they can’t find them, they create them,” Ngo wrote. This is a non-Covid observation but I note this: I wouldn't lay the blame for this image manipulation necessarily on someone with a leftist agenda. It could be either side or another actor who did this. The sign wouldn't make the left as triggered as an image showing manipulation will make the right. Consider the outcome and you might find a different bad actor than you think. Edited May 5, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Trump: Coronavirus briefings will return, blasts ‘angry’ CBS News reporter </snip> Trump, who ended the daily briefings last week, said there would continue to be one or two a week as he pivots from crisis management to reopening the economy. He said his new White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, would be holding court at some of those sessions. </snip> Me: Anyone would watched the pressers knew who he would single out. They are both very disrespectful. Paula Reid's hubby is paid by China. I understand why she is so angry, nasty, and screechy. Weijia Jiang is a native of Xiamen in China. I cannot believe he calls on either one of them. </snip> He singled out two CBS News journalists as people who particularly irritated him — Weijia Jiang and Paula Reid — during the briefings. </snip> 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 We’re seeing a bunch of talking heads (‘experts’) predicting WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE if and when we open the country based of course on the same model that got everything so wrong in the first place, the IHME. They keep saying the same crap over and over again, ‘While the model’s assumptions are unclear and estimates are uncertain,’ … Well, then why the Hell would we use it to make any real decisions?!?! Even Brit Hume has had enough of this BS: 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Issues & Insights offers six state-level proto-tyrants whose pandemic edicts make them solid candidates for recall campaigns. Whitmer of Michigan and Newsom of California are obvious candidates, and the latter might want to consult with one of his predecessors, Gray Davis, who knows a lot about recalls. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, B-Man said: We’re seeing a bunch of talking heads (‘experts’) predicting WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE if and when we open the country based of course on the same model that got everything so wrong in the first place, the IHME. They keep saying the same crap over and over again, ‘While the model’s assumptions are unclear and estimates are uncertain,’ … Well, then why the Hell would we use it to make any real decisions?!?! Even Brit Hume has had enough of this BS: No one ever pays attention to the uncertainty interval, they just want exact data. Hard to get that from a BRAND NEW virus with unknown mortality and contagion data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I wonder what he'd make of the world today? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 MTA to use ultraviolet lights to kill coronavirus on NYC subways, buses </snip> Transit officials Sunday announced plans to use powerful ultraviolet lamps to disinfect the agency’s trains, buses and work areas — a modern upgrade from the bleach and chemical sprays typically used for clean-up. The technology is a part of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s beefed-up cleaning efforts during the coronavirus pandemic, and was born out of a partnership with scientists at Columbia University who were previously testing UV lights as a method to quickly kill other diseases in transit systems. </snip> 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uncle Joe Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Oregon hair salon defies coronavirus closure order, reopens to 1 client at a time This is in the state capitol.. and her name...."owner Lindsey Graham" ? https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2020/05/oregon-salon-defies-business-closure-order-to-contain-coronavirus.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I can get my windows cleaned tomorrow!! It has been put off a number of times, first because NYS asked them to hold off "for a week," then because with the extra $600 in unemployment, he was having a tough time getting people to work for him.Building cleaning has been listed as essential, but NYS has been playing games with the cleaning services. My cleaning service told me last week they are hoping for next week, but expecting June 1. Again, this is with cleaning services listed as "essential." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Wait a minute! I only have to pay $39 to have a seat open next to me? Finally, some good news! Can I put my bag in the seat and avoid the baggage charge? Now THAT would be the icing on the cake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Wait a minute! I only have to pay $39 to have a seat open next to me? Finally, some good news! Can I put my bag in the seat and avoid the baggage charge? Now THAT would be the icing on the cake! Yep, I predicted something like this and I don’t hate it. I’ll pay even more not to have someone in between my companion and myself. Newsweek is portraying it as a negative, it seems. I don’t think the bag thing will fly though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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