There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

nevermind wrong post

Edited April 14, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Magox]

Jamie Dimon, who I respect tremendously when it comes to the world of finance.  Thinks we could be opening up relatively soon.

 

 

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“A rational plan to get back to work is a good thing to do, and hopefully it will be sooner rather than later,” Dimon said Tuesday on a conference call with analysts. “But it won’t be May. We’re talking about June, July, August, something like that.”

 

 

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“We shouldn’t think of it as a binary thing that after the CDC [gives approval] and we all get instructions from the government, after there’s enough capacity in the hospitals, after there’s proper amount of testing,” only then will people return to work, he said. “Remember, a lot of people are going to work today in farms, factories, food production, retail, pharmacies, hospitals – it isn’t like no one is going to work.”

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  Employers are not going to wait indefinitely on parents that have a problem in terms of kids.  The parents will get it figured out just like they do for summer vacation.

True but a lot of districts have summer day camps that provide cheap babysitting services.  It will be an extra cost for many adults if they have to go back to work and schools aren't open.  I don't think reopening schools in a couple of weeks is a bad idea.  It's going to have to get to a point soon where people highly suseptible to the virus self quarantine and the rest of us just get back to our daily lives practicing social distancing measures.  Hopefully we develop herd immunity and not have any major second waves.  The damage to the economy will be too great if we keep the country in lockdown for a year until a vaccine is developed.

[Nanker]

On 4/12/2020 at 2:09 PM, B-Man said:

 

I like how they misspelled “accused rapist” as “presumptive Democratic nominee.”  

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[shoshin]

17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

This is a good alert but that website is a mash of pop-ups and junk full screen promotions. This link may be better for the same content. 

 

https://abc7.com/gavin-newsom-press-conference-daily-update-coronavirus-in-california/6102767/

 

Six parameters:

 

1. A widespread expansion of coronavirus testing;
2. "Vigilant" protection of California's most vulnerable residents;
3. Focus on hospital care infrastructure and personal protective equipment, or PPE;

4. Engage researchers in academia, incuding the University of California, and at health and technology companies on the front lines of the pandemic;
5. "Redraw floor plans" at business locations with physical distancing in mind;
6. Determining when to re-institute certain measures, such as stay-at-home orders.

 

He says to ask him again in two weeks how they are coming on these and about timing of reopening. 

 

Pretty sensible approach. Leaves off tracking but it's a general structure for a plan. 

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by shoshin

[SoCal Deek]

20 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

This is a good alert but that website is a mash of pop-ups and junk full screen promotions. This link may be better for the same content. 

 

https://abc7.com/gavin-newsom-press-conference-daily-update-coronavirus-in-california/6102767/

 

Six parameters:

 

1. A widespread expansion of coronavirus testing;
2. "Vigilant" protection of California's most vulnerable residents;
3. Focus on hospital care infrastructure and personal protective equipment, or PPE;

4. Engage researchers in academia, incuding the University of California, and at health and technology companies on the front lines of the pandemic;
5. "Redraw floor plans" at business locations with physical distancing in mind;
6. Determining when to re-institute certain measures, such as stay-at-home orders.

 

He says to ask him again in two weeks how they are coming on these and about timing of reopening. 

 

Pretty sensible approach. Leaves off tracking but it's a general structure for a plan. 

 

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

45 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

 

...as CFO, try running a multi-million dollar operations in three states with all states having differing "plans" and definitions of essential businesses (NYS) or no categorization.......NYS, PA & NJ......

[TH3]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

Gawd....get over yourself and look up the meaning of “citizen”

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...as CFO, try running a multi-million dollar operations in three states with all states having differing "plans" and definitions of essential businesses (NYS) or no categorization.......NYS, PA & NJ......

Close...CEO of a multi million dollar company with offices all over California 

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

Gawd....get over yourself and look up the meaning of “citizen”

Gawd....yourself dude. You didn’t build my company. 

[shoshin]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

just like they are telling you to stay home now, yes. 

[RiotAct]

Oooooh, I like #5 in Newsom’s plan.  My company (which shall remain nameless) was planning on moving us all to a “hip”, open-concept office this summer with no cubicles and no walls between employees.  Just long-ass desks with about 3-4 feet of space between you and the next person.

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, shoshin said:

just like they are telling you to stay home now, yes. 

Yes? No. It’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE for government to police the number of occupants in a building. 

[shoshin]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Yes? No. It’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE for government to police the number of occupants in a building. 

Just follow the guidelines. 

[GG]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

 

Isn't it the same as the state redrawing the state's building code requirements?

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, shoshin said:

Just follow the guidelines. 

Yes sir! Can you come over and tell me how to run all other aspects of my business? 

Just now, GG said:

 

Isn't it the same as the state redrawing the state's building code requirements?

Excellent question. Yes, but there’s a process for writing building codes. The governor cannot rewrite it by executive order. 

[GG]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

 

Excellent question. Yes, but there’s a process for writing building codes. The governor cannot rewrite it by executive order. 

 

Looks like there's a run on the boys who would be king in this crisis.  Which thin skinned narcissist can outdo one another?

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, GG said:

 

Looks like there's a run on the boys who would be king in this crisis.  Which thin skinned narcissist can outdo one another?

You’re definitely right there, but I believe a few have missed my point. People do NOT sit in one place inside a functioning building. They’re constantly moving from workstations, to conference rooms, to restrooms, etc.  It’s nowhere near as simple as mandating ‘x’ number of people in a building. While I understand the idea has good intentions. There’s no way to effectively police it. Companies, like families, have to be given freedom to put these guidelines into best practice. 

[shoshin]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re definitely right there, but I believe a few have missed my point. People do NOT sit in one place inside a functioning building. They’re constantly moving from workstations, to conference rooms, to restrooms, etc.  It’s nowhere near as simple as mandating ‘x’ number of people in a building. While I understand the idea has good intentions. There’s no way to effectively police it. Companies, like families, have to be given freedom to put these guidelines into best practice. 

You haven’t seen anything yet. No one has. How about we see why the guidelines say and try to follow them so we get back to work and don’t cause more shutdowns?

[Chef Jim]

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

I hope the answer is one. I love being the only one in the office.