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QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley, Jake Fromm 

RB: Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, TJ Yeldon, Taiwan Jones

FB: Patrick DiMarco

WR: Stefon Diggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins, Duke Williams, Isaiah McKenzie, Robert Foster, Andre Roberts

TE: Dawson Knox, Tyler Kroft, Lee Smith, Tommy Sweeney

OT: Dion Dawkins, Daryl Williams, Ty Nsekhe, Cody Ford, Ryan Bates, Trey Adams 

OG: Quinton Spain, Jon Feliciano, Spencer Long,

OC: Mitch Morse

 

DT: Ed Oliver, Star Lotulelei, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler, Harrison Phillips 

DE: Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Trent Murphy, AJ Epenesa, Darryl Johnson

OLB: Matt Milano, AJ Klein, Vosean Joseph, Tyler Matakevich, Corey Thompson, Tyrel Dodson 

ILB: Tremaine Edmunds

S: Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Siran Neal, Dean Marlowe, Jaquan Johnson 

CB: Tre'Davious White, Levi Wallace, EJ Gaines, Josh Norman, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson

 

LS: Reid Ferguson 

K: Stephen Hauschka, Tyler Bass

P: Corey Bojorquez

 

PS/Cuts: Davis Webb(QB), Christian Wade(RB), Nick Easley(WR), Ray-Ray McCloud(WR), Jason Croom(TE), Nate Becker(TE), Victor Salako(OT), Ike Boettger(OG), Vincent Taylor(DT), Mike Love(DE), Jonathan Woodard(DE), Del'Shawn Phillips(ILB), Cam Lewis(CB), Kaare Vedvik(P)

 

FA's that could be retained: Senorise Perry(RB), LaAdrian Waddle(OT), Isaac Asiata(OG), Corey Liuget(DT), Maurice Alexander(LB), Julian Stanford(LB), Kurt Coleman(S)

 

Positions I think we're set at are FB, OG, C, DT, LS, K

Positions we are thin at are RB, ILB, S

Positions that I wouldn't be surprised to see more moves at are QB, WR, TE, OT, DE, OLB, CB, P

 

Thoughts? This is just based on what we know so far and I will try to keep the OP as up to date as possible. 

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Just now, JMF2006 said:

Projected 55 the CBA added 2 spots :)

 

Plus 5 PS spots :)

I just added my ps/cut list. Pick any 2 you like! Lol

3 minutes ago, qwksilver said:

Pretty solid work. I would slide QB into your thin group. Meaning I'd like someone signed that can push Barkley. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Agree with ?

I do like Davis Webb a bit, but that's understandable. Probably more of a I wouldn't be surprised than thin. The thin spots are my priority pickups at this point. 

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

Still think Tyrel Dodson has a shot of making this team. 

I wouldn't quibble if he was swapped for Corey Thompson or Vosean Joseph 

Just now, qwksilver said:

Sweeney vs Croom will be a nice training camp battle. I liked what I saw from Sweeney last year. I wouldn't count him out.

that was another close call! I went with the receiving threat over the well rounded skillset

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27 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Thoughts? This is just based on what we know so far and I will try to keep the OP as up to date as possible. 

 

Isn't it now a pseudo 55 man roster?  

 NFL teams will be given the option to promote two practice squad players to their new 55-man active roster every week. 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28901832/nfl-cba-approved-players-get-new-deal-how-expanded-playoffs-schedule-work

 

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

We're doing this before free agency officially even opens? Before the draft?

Agreed.  Not sure how or why this is happening before the draft

1 minute ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Its the off season we need to do something :)

Plus, with most people working from home now, why not spend all day on TBD

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5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

Isn't it now a pseudo 55 man roster?  

 NFL teams will be given the option to promote two practice squad players to their new 55-man active roster every week. 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28901832/nfl-cba-approved-players-get-new-deal-how-expanded-playoffs-schedule-work

 

 

It is a legit 2 spots as teams get to dress 48 players now.

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Bring Andy dalton home to buffalo his adopted home and biggest donor to his charity......also draft rb from Wisconsin Jonathan taylor ....trade up to 32 with chiefs and give up next years first.....

 

add Cameron wake and Dion lewis

 

 

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39 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley, Davis Webb

RB: Devin Singletary, TJ Yeldon, Christian Wade

FB: Patrick DiMarco

WR: Stefon Diggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Duke Williams, Robert Foster, Andre Roberts

TE: Dawson Knox, Tyler Kroft, Lee Smith, Jason Croom

OT: Dion Dawkins, Ty Nsekhe, Cody Ford, Ryan Bates

OG: Quinton Spain, Jon Feliciano, Spencer Long, Ike Boettger

OC: Mitch Morse

 

DT: Ed Oliver, Star Lotulelei, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler, Harrison Phillips 

DE: Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Trent Murphy, Darryl Johnson

OLB: Matt Milano, AJ Klein, Vosean Joseph, Tyler Matakevich, Corey Thompson, Tyrel Dodson 

ILB: Tremaine Edmunds, Del'Shawn Phillips 

S: Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Siran Neal, Josh Norman 

CB: Tre'Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Jaquan Johnson, Cam Lewis

 

LS: Reid Ferguson 

K: Stephen Hauschka 

P: Corey Bojorquez

 

PS/Cuts: Nick Easley(WR), Ray-Ray McCloud(WR), Tommy Sweeney(TE), Nate Becker(TE), Victor Salako(OT), Vincent Taylor(DT), Mike Love(DE), Jonathan Woodard(DE), Kaare Vedvik(P)

 

FA's that could be retained: Senorise Perry(RB), Isaiah McKenzie(WR), LaAdrian Waddle(OT), Isaac Asiata(OG), Corey Liuget(DT), Maurice Alexander(LB), Julian Stanford(LB), Kurt Coleman(S), Dean Marlowe(S), Kevin Johnson(CB)

 

Positions I think we're set at are QB, FB, OG, C, DT, LS, K

Positions we are thin at are RB, ILB, S

Positions that I wouldn't be surprised to see more moves at are WR, TE, OT, DE, OLB, CB, P

 

Thoughts? This is just based on what we know so far and I will try to keep the OP as up to date as possible. 

Lee Smith is as good as gone. Tough to carry 4 TE’s and 6 WR’s. Too much talent for him to stick and Duke will win out over Lee Smith all day as he can play a hybrid role in a pinch or be the big bodied receiver we need. 
 

Josh Norman is a corner. Say goodbye to Jaquan Johnson. 
 

Our punter was erratic last season- the Bills will bring in 2 legs to compete for the starting job. 
 

Yeldon was in the doghouse last year. Expect the Bills to draft a pounding back or grab one via FA. See ya Yeldon.

 

8 LB’s on the 53? Hmmmmm 

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Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Thought about dropping him and keeping Sweeney. I think his role in the locker room will be important with Alexander gone, but who knows?


A lot would have to change in camp and preseason for me to be okay keeping Croom over Sweeney... 

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Just now, Circlethewagon8404 said:

Melvin Gordon?


Maybe... I don’t hate it, but it’s gotta be a damn good deal. I think he’s finding his market is way less than he wanted, and if that’s the case I would be fine taking him. I like the appeal of a turn key back who can get 12-20 carries dependent on need and you know what you’re getting. 

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Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Draft someone and trade star to the 49ers for Coleman after camp lol


Not the worst idea I’ve ever heard... 

Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

he's practically the owner's kid now though! 


lol. That joke is great, but as it stands now, if Croom gets a job over Sweeney then it’s not a joke and it’s just embarrassing for the whole organization. ?

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It's now a 55 man roster per new CBA. While it seems like there aren't a lot of spots left to fill, by my count there are probably 16-17 roster spots in play, about 38 locks. 

 

If there are 38 locks right now:

 

1. They have 64 on roster so the first group fighting for jobs numbers 26

2. They will have 7 draft picks (as of now)

3. That leaves 19 roster spots to fill out to get to 90 going into training camp (actually 20 I think they still get exemption for Wade).

 

Locks on offense:

QB: Allen, Barkley

RB: Singletary

FB: DiMarco

WR: Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Roberts (return man)

OL: Morse, Dawkins, Spain, Feliciano, Ford, Nsekhe, Long

TE: Knox, Kroft, Sweeney

 

Total locks on offense: 18

 

Special teams: Hauschka, Ferguson and a punter - 3 locks

 

Locks on defense:

DL: Hughes, Addison, Jefferson, Butler, Oliver, H Phillips, Star

LB: Edmunds, Milano, Klein, Matakevich

CB: White, Wallace, T Johnson, Norman

S: Hyde, Poyer

 

Total locks on defense: 17

 

That's 38, 17 spots left.

 

Spots to fill:

RB: 2 Yeldon likely, at least 1 not on roster yet. Wade is a wild card but far from done deal. Add vet FA and/or draft 1

WR: 2 more, will get at least one in draft then either add a free agent or maybe D. Williams or Foster. 

OL: 2 more to get to 9 maybe even keep 10 with the roster now at 55. Bates probably stays but depends if they pick up a minimum guy (Waddle) also think they draft at least 1.

TE: Probably keep 4 so 1 more not convinced Lee Smith is here, could be cap casualty. 

 

DL: Add 2, probably keep 9, Murphy probably makes it but could see them cutting him loose, also have Darryl Johnson, if he shows promise they will want a developmental/young/cheap guy

LB: 3 more, Joseph and Dodson in mix, could bring back minimum salary guys for 1-2 spots and draft one

CB: 2 more, will draft 1, have SIran Neal who likely makes it

S: Need 2 have J. Johnson who they seem to like, may draft 1, Marlowe is always out there. 

 

That's how I think it breaks down. 

 

 

 

 

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Maybe... I don’t hate it, but it’s gotta be a damn good deal. I think he’s finding his market is way less than he wanted, and if that’s the case I would be fine taking him. I like the appeal of a turn key back who can get 12-20 carries dependent on need and you know what you’re getting. 

Exactly.  I think we'll find a way to bring him in cheaper than what he's expecting since his market value should be low

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Just now, Circlethewagon8404 said:

Melvin Gordon?

 

He might be too expensive and not want to share carries with Singletary.

 

We're almost done with free agency. Just need to add a vet RB to replace Gore and maybe Chris Harris too. After the draft, Beane also needs to extend White, Milano, and Dawkins.

 

Of the OP's list, I think the following players end up getting replaced with draft picks and other free agents: Yeldon, Wade, Foster, Croom, Boettger, Thompson, Dodson, Phillips, Lewis.

 

Interesting note: 5 players on the roster have connections with Carolina, all on defense (Butler, Star, Klein, Addison, Norman).

 

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2 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said:

 

He might be too expensive and not want to share carries with Singletary.

 

We're almost done with free agency. Just need to add a vet RB to replace Gore and maybe Chris Harris too. After the draft, Beane also needs to extend White, Milano, and Dawkins.

 

Of the OP's list, I think the following players end up getting replaced with draft picks and other free agents: Yeldon, Wade, Foster, Croom, Boettger, Thompson, Dodson, Phillips, Lewis.

 

Interesting note: 5 players on the roster have connections with Carolina, all on defense (Butler, Star, Klein, Addison, Norman).

 

Which FA RB do you see us going after?  Because we are so thin at RB, I think Yeldon stays.  Not a guaranteed lock yet, but I think his chance are good.

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4 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said:

Which FA RB do you see us going after?  Because we are so thin at RB, I think Yeldon stays.  Not a guaranteed lock yet, but I think his chance are good.

 

I don't know, to be honest. I had assumed Howard was coming to Buffalo. There should be plenty of additional options through the draft and post-June cuts. Maybe the Bills should call Marshawn Lynch?! I saw him on the Westworld season opener the other night while locked up in my apartment waiting out this coronavirus apocalypse.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Thought about dropping him and keeping Sweeney. I think his role in the locker room will be important with Alexander gone, but who knows?

I think Smith has too much downside to overcome locker room role. The culture is in place, the team is all but built. I can’t see him making the 53 but yeah, ya never know.

23 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


Maybe... I don’t hate it, but it’s gotta be a damn good deal. I think he’s finding his market is way less than he wanted, and if that’s the case I would be fine taking him. I like the appeal of a turn key back who can get 12-20 carries dependent on need and you know what you’re getting. 

MG at 3 years, 5 mil per is his value. He needs to understand this.

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If we lose Johnson in free agency, I would assume CB is our target with our 2nd round pick.  

We would just be White and Wallace on the outside?

I mean, maybe Norman returns to form in the system that got him paid, but he's looking like the Deangelo Hall trajectory 

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5 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said:

 

I don't know, to be honest. I had assumed Howard was coming to Buffalo. There should be plenty of additional options through the draft and post-June cuts. Maybe the Bills should call Marshawn Lynch?! I saw him on the Westworld season opener the other night while locked up in my apartment waiting out this coronavirus apocalypse.

 

 

I think we all thought that too about Howard.  I guess if there was another one to pursue, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at Freeman.  I think he could rejuvenate his career here and would be a good compliment to Singletary. 

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