Philo Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: So technically he's 7 for 8. Does this prove Peterman can make it in the XFL? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Philo said: Does this prove Peterman can make it in the XFL? ? All he does is complete passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 It was a clear fumble on the Renegades touchdown. Play was not reviewed to keep Dallas (and spectators) in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I wonder if PJ Walker can play another offensive position? Imagine having a wildcat back who can throw well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Then it's like the same kind of roster turnover that happens in college. I don't think that's good for a professional league. It would only work if they were a minor league partnering with the NFL. Getting college talent, even some HS talent is what they should try to do, which the AAF didn't seem to have any intention of doing. Houston should crush them. I don't see it being much of a "rivalry" in the near future. They say that's a ball Landry "knows he can't throw" but I don't think he does. That's what I never liked about Landry since his college days. He didn't seem coachable, never improved. This is just going to be very hard to do. The league plays past the combine and past the major part of FA. So these guys will have little chance to get drafted if they come straight out of HS. Worse yet - the timing of the league means most FAs will already be signed and the teams are focused on the upcoming draft - any guys that actually make a roster are just fill ins. The AAFL at least by folding early got several players signed before the big FA push. I think the XFL will get a few guys signed, but considering their pay scale is less than the PS and the fact that viewership is dropping badly week over week and next week starts March madness which will kill the viewership. I just do not see the XFL surviving. The only way a spring league is going to have sustained success is partnering with the NFL/NFLPA and getting these young PS players and true back-up level QBs into the game - guys that will have a legitimate place on NFL rosters and name recognition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Philo said: Am I crazy for thinking Ta'amu wouldn't be a bad option to come in and compete with Barkley for backup QB? I like Barkley, but he is certainly upgradeable. I believe there are a handful of (somewhat talented) guys in the XFL now that were suspended from the college program but still not NFL eligible. So let’s say the 10 best players move up to the NFL. That’s a nightmare scenario for the XFL, who’s teams have no national/natural following. If anyone is tuning in, it’s to see a couple of their best players tear it up on the rest of the scrubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Philo said: Am I crazy for thinking Ta'amu wouldn't be a bad option to come in and compete with Barkley for backup QB? I like Barkley, but he is certainly upgradeable. Not crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: It's gonna suck to lose guys like Ta'amu to the NFL. He's gonna go to the big league, but he's gonna be a back-up. Then St Louis becomes a much less interesting team. It's a lose-lose for everyone, but Ta'amu. Like @simpleman said, the XFL needs to pay up. Fans need to keep watching, too. We can't complain that they're not able pay for stars and then not watch. They need the fan following in order to grow and be able to give those pay-days. Absolutely, I enjoy the league, and don’t want to be a downer. Unfortunately, the future seems clear to me. They aren’t going to pay up, and the league will just continue down the path of irrelevance before dissolving. We’ve seen this movie play out before. I have no idea what’s supposed to be different about the XFL. Edited March 1, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Absolutely, I enjoy the league, and don’t want to be a downer. Unfortunately, the future seems clear to me. They aren’t going to pay up, and the league will just continue down the path of irrelevance before dissolving. We’ve seen this movie play out before. I have no idea what’s supposed to be different about the XFL. Yeah, I see it happening too. Just doesn't seem sustainable, except for a couple teams like San Antonio in the AAF and St Louis here, who actually seem to have gotten good fan-following. I find this very easy to watch, if you love football. And no other football is happening right now. I'm interested in the NFL combine, but I don't want to sit and watch it. Boring. I can get all their combine stats later... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Vince McMahon said he was ready to bankroll the XFL for three years. Will he? We'll see. In the meantime, crack a beer and enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 St Louis has great attentance because they are eager of a pro team. In my opinion the league had to invest on markets like that, or San Antonio, and other "big" markets without a pro football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: St Louis has great attentance because they are eager of a pro team. In my opinion the league had to invest on markets like that, or San Antonio, and other "big" markets without a pro football team. On the other hand, those current NFL cities also have a proven interest. Overall, game attendance looks better than what the AAF had. San Antonio and Orlando seem like good expansion options if the league is successful enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: On the other hand, those current NFL cities also have a proven interest. Overall, game attendance looks better than what the AAF had. San Antonio and Orlando seem like good expansion options if the league is successful enough. Here's an article addressing that. Problem is TV dictates being in NY and LA. https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/oliver-luck-so-far-so-good-in-xfl-but-la-and-new-york-crowds-need-to-improve/ Edited March 1, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Vince McMahon said he was ready to bankroll the XFL for three years. Will he? We'll see. In the meantime, crack a beer and enjoy. I’m enjoying watching, but that will be interesting to see. It’s easy to make a statement like that, but it takes on another meaning when you sit down and actually look at the numbers. No one wants to lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Great interception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Here's an article addressing that. Problem is TV dictates being in NY and LA. https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/oliver-luck-so-far-so-good-in-xfl-but-la-and-new-york-crowds-need-to-improve/ I'm curious what the TV ratings have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'm curious what the TV ratings have been Declining each week. https://www.forbes.com/sites/barryhorn/2020/02/26/xfl-tv-ratings-are-headed-in-the-wrong-direction-for-a-league-that-wants-to-hang-around/ Edited March 1, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Here's an article addressing that. Problem is TV dictates being in NY and LA. https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/oliver-luck-so-far-so-good-in-xfl-but-la-and-new-york-crowds-need-to-improve/ Ah, that too.... PJ Walker with a Josh Allen-esque run. He needed to get his team fired up. The game got into a lull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 That was pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Very good football so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Walker just put the team on his back. He throws the way we all wish Tyrod threw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steptide Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Walker just put the team on his back. He throws the way we all wish Tyrod threw.... He reminds me so much of Tyrod. Throws almost exactly like him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Steptide said: He reminds me so much of Tyrod. Throws almost exactly like him I mean just more aggressive, but that may be the coaching/system. It was always a question on TBD if Tyrod was being held back from being more aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I think I want the NFL to adopt this point after rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 great throw and catch, but this 3 points conversion is sooo gimmicky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I took Dallas+3. Looked bleak earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: I think I want the NFL to adopt this point after rule. No way, I want the NFL to shorten the play clock, from 40 to 35 will be a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: great throw and catch, but this 3 points conversion is sooo gimmicky... No way, it's great. It changes the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: No way, it's great. It changes the game. Not in a good way, a team dominates but scores 3 field goals, the other ties with one score... Not fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: Not in a good way, a team dominates but scores 3 field goals, the other ties with one score... Not fair They didn't capitalize on those turnovers. On the flip side they can increase their lead the same amount if they score and make the conversion. Same difference. Seems fair to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Landry Jones grabbing his knee. Already had a brace on. Edited March 1, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Good game going on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Was wishing that QB would have gained another yard or lowered his head on that scramble. Edited March 1, 2020 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 A man who knows his career is over Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 XFL should play in the fall on a non traditional night like Wednesdays It's just weird watching football in March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) The XFL is in a tough situation. Becoming effectively a Spring (lower, training) League for the NFL with their cooperation and support is one way to get better talent cheaply, and may allow them to survive longer. But no one, (McMahon) will ever get rich doing it. There is no big money in doing it. Could it position him to someday get a profitable NFL franchise as “quid pro quo”, maybe. College Football is doing that at no cost to the NFL owners now. The NFL encourages College Ball and creates draft rules that favor College playing policies in return. Joining with the NFL to get players means the concept of the XFL competing for players from college ball, like skipping college ball and getting paid earlier, is off the table. The NFL has a mutually beneficial relationship with college ball, risking it is too much of a gamble for the NFL to be a party to. There is a reason new leagues fail. The NFL owners believe the NFL/ College Ball agreement works well for them. They don't feel a need for a training league that is a cost and bother to them. Any league that bothers College Ball bothers them too by upsetting the currently profitable status quo. Edited March 2, 2020 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, simpleman said: The XFL is in a tough situation. Becoming effectively a Spring (lower, training) League for the NFL with their cooperation and support is one way to get better talent cheaply, and may allow them to survive longer. But no one, (McMahon) will ever get rich doing it. There is no big money in doing it. Could it position him to someday get a profitable NFL franchise as “quid pro quo”, maybe. College Football is doing that at no cost to the NFL owners now. The NFL encourages College Ball and creates draft rules that favor College playing policies in return. Joining with the NFL to get players means the concept of the XFL competing for players from college ball, like skipping college ball and getting paid earlier, is off the table. The NFL has a mutually beneficial relationship with college ball, risking it is too much of a gamble for the NFL to be a party to. There is a reason new leagues fail. The NFL owners believe the NFL/ College Ball agreement works well for them. They don't feel a need for a training league that is a cost and bother to them. Any league that bothers College Ball bothers them too by upsetting the currently profitable status quo. I think it's too soon to declare the XFL dead. McMahon knew what he was getting into and said he was ready to carry the league for 3 years. So far everything is going as expected. Big interest/viewership early, dropping off week by week. Attendance has been decent outside of LA and NY. The key now is where do things level off and do they bounce back some by the end? Unlike the AAF, which was undercapitalized from the start and went in with fingers crossed, I'm convinced we'll at least see a full season from the XFL. Edited March 2, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, simpleman said: The XFL is in a tough situation. Becoming effectively a Spring (lower, training) League for the NFL with their cooperation and support is one way to get better talent cheaply, and may allow them to survive longer. But no one, (McMahon) will ever get rich doing it. There is no big money in doing it. Could it position him to someday get a profitable NFL franchise as “quid pro quo”, maybe. College Football is doing that at no cost to the NFL owners now. The NFL encourages College Ball and creates draft rules that favor College playing policies in return. Joining with the NFL to get players means the concept of the XFL competing for players from college ball, like skipping college ball and getting paid earlier, is off the table. The NFL has a mutually beneficial relationship with college ball, risking it is too much of a gamble for the NFL to be a party to. There is a reason new leagues fail. The NFL owners believe the NFL/ College Ball agreement works well for them. They don't feel a need for a training league that is a cost and bother to them. Any league that bothers College Ball bothers them too by upsetting the currently profitable status quo. 34 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I think it's too soon to declare the XFL dead. McMahon knew what he was getting into and said he was ready to carry the league for 3 years. So far everything is going as expected. Big interest/viewership early, dropping off week by week. Attendance has been decent outside of LA and NY. The key now is where do things level off and do they bounce back some by the end? Unlike the AAF, which was undercapitalized from the start and went in with fingers crossed, I'm convinced we'll at least see a full season from the XFL. The XFL TV deal with ESPN/ABC and FOX is pretty much equivalent to a one-year "show me," deal. If the XFL can sustain a full season, then they can (hopefully for them) strike a real/lucrative TV deal with a network or two. Personally, I've only watched one game and was not impressed. But I do hope the league succeeds and will likely give it another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gugny said: The XFL TV deal with ESPN/ABC and FOX is pretty much equivalent to a one-year "show me," deal. If the XFL can sustain a full season, then they can (hopefully for them) strike a real/lucrative TV deal with a network or two. Personally, I've only watched one game and was not impressed. But I do hope the league succeeds and will likely give it another shot. So you won't meet me at the Meadowlands for a game? Edited March 2, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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