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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102838/article/vontaze-burfict-reinstated-after-12game-suspension

 

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Burfict is training at his alma mater, Arizona State, where his former Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis is serving as a co-defensive coordinator.

Burfict's agent, Peter Schaffer, told Pelissero the linebacker has spent the offseason watching tape and speaking to coaches, league executives and additional experts about proper code of conduct.

"He is serious, Shaffer said, about coming back and doing things the right way," he added.

 

One of the greatest linebacker talents in all of football. Lockdown run defender, very decent in pass coverage and, most importantly, never misses a tackle. And, he can play ILB pretty well too - so insurance if Edmunds has to sit for some reason. Very very smart football mind. If it works out, he wont just replace Lorax - he will be a huge upgrade over Lorax. Can likely be had for cheap.

 

The flip side is his "head" - he plays recklessly and has racked up over 4 million in fines. Several opposing players have called him dirty and that name has merit. However, his teammates have always said great things about him - he is a "process" McD kinda guy who will do his 1/11. If he is serious about improving his conduct by eschewing dirty plays - he might turn out to be the best signing of the offseason. I also have faith that our defense's discipline with McD & Frazier at the helm can really help him out.

 

Anyway, he could likely be had for 2-3 mill per year without significant guarantees - so I dont see any downside from trying him out.

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I haven’t seen Beane or McDermott bring in a ‘second’ chance player yet. There is a first time for everything.

 

Does Seattle run a scheme how would be good in?

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1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I haven’t seen Beane or McDermott bring in a ‘second’ chance player yet. There is a first time for everything.

 

Does Seattle run a scheme how would be good in?

Tyrel Dodson

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He’d certainly bring an edge to the defense, but I’m in no way convinced he can color between the lines. Some guys aren’t bright enough to realize they’re throwing a lucrative career away ... I’d look elsewhere. 

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4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I haven’t seen Beane or McDermott bring in a ‘second’ chance player yet. There is a first time for everything.

 

Does Seattle run a scheme how would be good in?

Duke Williams?

Tyrel Dodson?

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McD on Burfict:

 

https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/things-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-had-say-about-the-bengals/CjA1AHM00wq76SAu1FxwWI/

 

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They certainly have a talented back end, a veteran back end, and led by Vontaze Burfict in the middle,” McDermott said. “A lot of it goes through No. 55 (Burfict) and his role in this defense is a big part of their success and I think the continuity they’ve had is key as well, in particular in the middle with Vontaze and some of the secondary positions also.

 

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Oh yes - Burfict's definitely a process guy - he'll fit right in!   :rolleyes:

 

He can help provide some of that veteran leadership our retiring Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee brought to the team too, am I right?   

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22 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102838/article/vontaze-burfict-reinstated-after-12game-suspension

 

 

One of the greatest linebacker talents in all of football. Lockdown run defender, very decent in pass coverage and, most importantly, never misses a tackle. And, he can play ILB pretty well too - so insurance if Edmunds has to sit for some reason. Very very smart football mind. If it works out, he wont just replace Lorax - he will be a huge upgrade over Lorax. Can likely be had for cheap.

 

The flip side is his "head" - he plays recklessly and has racked up over 4 million in fines. Several opposing players have called him dirty and that name has merit. However, his teammates have always said great things about him - he is a "process" McD kinda guy who will do his 1/11. If he is serious about improving his conduct by eschewing dirty plays - he might turn out to be the best signing of the offseason. I also have faith that our defense's discipline with McD & Frazier at the helm can really help him out.

 

Anyway, he could likely be had for 2-3 mill per year without significant guarantees - so I dont see any downside from trying him out.

Surely you can't be serious.......

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1 minute ago, BobChalmers said:

 

Dude this was back in October - he was talking the opponent up.

Dude this was October of 2017

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This thread title reminds me of that AT&T commercial with the surgeon:

 

”Guess who just got reinstated! Well,  not officially... “

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FWIW, here is his teammate coming to his defense after NFL announced the suspension:

 

 

I remember several of us arguing Jones' hit on Josh Allen was a lot worse and Jones was not even ejected.

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Come on man. You’re reaching. No way. This is not a process player, hell he’s such a loose cannon he doesn’t want to be an NFL player. Over 4 million in fines? He has no regard for anyone’s personal safety. 
 

the hardest pass possible. 

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27 minutes ago, pop gun said:

Surely you can't be serious.......

I think the OP is serious. But then again, nobody is Berfict!

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1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Duke Williams?

Tyrel Dodson?

I was speaking about character or discipline issues. Dodson is fair. Why do you bring up Duke? Because of college? 

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3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I was speaking about character or discipline issues. Dodson is fair. Why do you bring up Duke? Because of college? 

Yes. For that matter, even Ogletree - who was the Giants Team Captain last year - had a DUI and a drug suspension coming out of college. And the Bills were certainly seriously considering adding Antonio Brown last off-season. So it is not like McBeane only go for saints (no pun there). I certainly think Beane should do his due diligence on Burfict. He may choose to pass - but it is not as clear cut a No as a majority of the posters appear to believe.

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we were Richie Incognito's second or third chance.  He was good here.  Burfict could be good, I have no clue if he can control himself.  If the Bills bring him in I trust they've done their homework.  Nice to feel this way about a FO.  I hope we look into it, and then make an informed decision.  

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Yes. For that matter, even Ogletree - who was the Giants Team Captain last year - had a DUI and a drug suspension coming out of college. And the Bills were certainly seriously considering adding Antonio Brown last off-season. So it is not like McBeane only go for saints (no pun there). I certainly think Beane should do his due diligence on Burfict. He may choose to pass - but it is not as clear cut a No as a majority of the posters appear to believe.

 

I'd take a couple of the Saints players~! 

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Talk about a culture killer and cancer to the team as a whole. Abso-freakin-lutely not.....:censored:

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He is not even that good anymore. This is 2020, not 2013. The guy hasn't played a full season in forever. 

 

I love the off season. Nothing more fun than pawing through all the "Oh, look, a name I recognize..." FA posts. 

 

I think there should be a fine imposed on anyone who, between now and August 1st, uses any of the following phrases in a post:

 

1. kick the tires

2. change of scenery

3. lunch pail guy

4. veteran leadership

5. high motor

6. takes plays off

7. locker room headache/cancer

8. downhill runner

9. road grader

10. so and so is a great athlete

11. stretches the field

12. character issues

13. tremendous upside

14. high character guy

15. great ball skills

16. sneaky fast

17. plays well in space

 

Feel free to add your own. 

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7 minutes ago, Mickey said:

He is not even that good anymore. This is 2020, not 2013. The guy hasn't played a full season in forever. 

 

I love the off season. Nothing more fun than pawing through all the "Oh, look, a name I recognize..." FA posts. 

 

I think there should be a fine imposed on anyone who, between now and August 1st, uses any of the following phrases in a post:

 

1. kick the tires

2. change of scenery

3. lunch pail guy

4. veteran leadership

5. high motor

6. takes plays off

7. locker room headache/cancer

8. downhill runner

9. road grader

10. so and so is a great athlete

11. stretches the field

12. character issues

13. tremendous upside

14. high character guy

15. great ball skills

16. sneaky fast

17. plays well in space

 

Feel free to add your own. 

Does this one count, “ he was a raw talent coming out” or maybe anything to do with being precise vs accurate.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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