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4 hours ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Ya know, I get mocking the panic.  There is nothing that has happened anywhere near real dictatorship so yuck it up.

 

The problem as I see it and why the panic is more warranted than you may consider, is because the right dismisses EVERY Trump questionable act as not a big deal.  There is absolutely no evidence that Republicans can or will control Trump's impulses and he is doubtlessly impulsive and vindictive.  If you see any Congressional Republican that will call out Trump if you goes too far, please name him.  Anyone that does is immediately vilified, excommunicated,  and not to be believed. (for example, Mitt)

 

If you feared that Trump may now start using the Justice Dept to attack his opponents - political, media, and personal - you might understand the concern a bit better.  It is sort of like looking at a runaway truck that is heading downhill and wondering who and how can it be stopped.

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

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Just now, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

Can't happen in four years. It would require a Constitutional amendment passed by 2/3 of the House and Senate, and then ratification by 3/4 of the states, i.e., 38. 

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4 hours ago, Cinga said:

I'm reading the Bills might tag Phillips... what do you all think? If I have to make a choice, I keep Shaq over him

 

I'd be more inclined to pay Shaq and tag Phillips. Shaq's probably more affordable.

 

I just wonder if Phillips is really as good as his sack total suggests. Hate to let a guy like that go, but I'd like a bigger sample size before giving him a contract with big guarantees.

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1 minute ago, Nanker said:

Can't happen in four years. It would require a Constitutional amendment passed by 2/3 of the House and Senate, and then ratification by 3/4 of the states, i.e., 38. 

Trump has managed to ignore the constitution and avoid the law for 4 years so his logic and public support will allow him to fix this injustice. 

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3 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Trump has managed to ignore the constitution and avoid the law for 4 years so his logic and public support will allow him to fix this injustice. 

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13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

Is this really your honest opinion?  Because if you honestly believe this you should seriously look into getting your frontal lobe tested.  I am not kidding.  If your honest opinion sounds like a comic book theme you are either hyperbolic or seriously needing of professional help.

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...Barr has this right IMO.......the daily dose of crap from Tweetie is over the top now.....Jesus............

Barr says Trump tweets 'make it impossible to do my job' amid Roger Stone drama

 

By Gregg Re | Fox News

 

Attorney General Bill Barr told ABC News on Thursday that President Trump's tweets "make it impossible for me to do my job," in an unusual swipe at the president, although he emphasized that Trump "has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case."

"I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases," Barr said. "I'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody ... whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board, or the president.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trump-tweets-roger-stone

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Trump has managed to ignore the constitution and avoid the law for 4 years so his logic and public support will allow him to fix this injustice. 


oh wait, are you being serious?  

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4 hours ago, Bob in Mich said:

The problem as I see it and why the panic is more warranted than you may consider, is because the right dismisses EVERY Trump questionable act as not a big deal.

 

That only seems that way because the left loses their collective schitt over every single thing Trump does. They're counting ice cream scoops and sniffles, for crying out loud, and insisting America as we know is going to spiral into a doomed, horrific society because of ... (checks notes).... he sniffles a lot!

 

Maybe get the Q-tibs to quit attacking people for a red hat, or driving vans through their booths, or telling white people to leave a multicultural center because they don't belong there.

 

Or maybe just get them to STFU for 24 hours. Just STFU.

 

But they can't. Cuz Q-tibs gotta Q-tibs.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dubs said:


oh wait, are you being serious?  


These leftists are out of their fvckin minds.

 

Independents are the important ones in this and most of them see leftists as I just stated.

 

I just don’t take these leftists seriously AT ALL.

 

Give me a name leftist posters name in here and I will tell you I just don’t take them seriously.

 

All of the leftists here are just like Juan Williams, which means just put them on mute before they talk cause they are about to make no sense whatsoever.

 

Obviously you can’t mute anyone here. 😀

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11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Obviously Trump wants this guy to get off easy. He is putting pressure on everyone he can to get the sentence reduced, or perhaps he is just signaling his base that this is the new fight and when the corrupt pardon comes, as it will, it's ok, so keep up the dirty work going into November. 

 

 

Dude why do you bother.

 

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They can't/don't want to hear you.

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5 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That only seems that way because the left loses their collective schitt over every single thing Trump does. They're counting ice cream scoops and sniffles, for crying out loud, and insisting America as we know is going to spiral into a doomed, horrific society because of ... (checks notes).... he sniffles a lot!

 

Maybe get the Q-tibs to quit attacking people for a red hat, or driving vans through their booths, or telling white people to leave a multicultural center because they don't belong there.

 

Or maybe just get them to STFU for 24 hours. Just STFU.

 

But they can't. Cuz Q-tibs gotta Q-tibs.

 

 

 

Trump's morning bowel movement is a threat to democracy!

34 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

They can't/don't want to hear you.

 

Mostly because he's a blithering idiot.

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6 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

 

 

Pffft

You're an idiot.

 

Blocked. This dude is hopeless.

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35 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

Pffft

You're an idiot.

 

Blocked. This dude is hopeless.

 

He's canadian. Therefore, unqualified to comment.

 

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6 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

Ugh..Listen ill try once...the only ones trying to change the rules are the democrats.. abolish the electoral college, take away guns, 

pack the supreme court, bill...tibs..gary whoever you are you're a dumb troll.

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Didn’t Obama invoke executive privilege to exonerate Holder?

 

So, the President weighing in on Stone gets the media’s and Democrats tampons all in a wad and is an impeachable offense?

 

The left’s hypocrisy Is beyond laughable and you people have been called out.

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What the hell does any of this have to do with whether Jordan Phillips gets the tag?

 

ADHD Motherfu¢kers.

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15 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Oh *****! Tibs found the silver bullet! Quick! Get this to Nancy, wake her up if you need to- she actually operates better when hungover. If it happens quick we can get the impeachment going before the weekend!

Dude intervened on a case on of personal interest. Is he going to do the same for the hundreds of thousands facing the same situation?

2 hours ago, njbuff said:

Didn’t Obama invoke executive privilege to exonerate Holder?

 

Uhhh. Nah.

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12 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

How far gone do you have to be to actually think this?  If anything Don Jr. will pry run which won't make him all that different than other presidential families (Adams, Harrison, Bush) or failed attempts (Clinton).  Maybe attack him on not following through with his campaign pledge to implement congressional campaign limits.

3 hours ago, njbuff said:

Didn’t Obama invoke executive privilege to exonerate Holder?

 

So, the President weighing in on Stone gets the media’s and Democrats tampons all in a wad and is an impeachable offense?

 

The left’s hypocrisy Is beyond laughable and you people have been called out.

Stone is a private citizen convicted of multiple crimes by a jury of his peers so that's not a great comparison. Most presidents have invoked executive privilege multiple times.  

 

Trump shouldn't comment about this crap on Twitter as he puts people like Barr in an awkward position to the point where he had to go on network tv and call the president's tweets not helpful.  Do it behind the scenes like most previous presidents.  Seven to nine years does seem a bit harsh despite Stone being a horrible human being.  

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14 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Is this really your honest opinion?  Because if you honestly believe this you should seriously look into getting your frontal lobe tested.  I am not kidding.  If your honest opinion sounds like a comic book theme you are either hyperbolic or seriously needing of professional help.

I am neither a supporter of Trump or detractor but he has entered into many controversial directions so term limits seems a logical direction for a man with this huge ego.IMHO.  Revenge is a powerful force for him.

 

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8 hours ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

Pffft

You're an idiot.

 

Blocked. This dude is hopeless.

Block me for expressing an opinion that an illogical man will take what appears to be an illogical direction to logical people. Seriously.

Not surprising that you revert to name calling and bullying within 4 words. 🤔

 

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14 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...Barr has this right IMO.......the daily dose of crap from Tweetie is over the top now.....Jesus............

Barr says Trump tweets 'make it impossible to do my job' amid Roger Stone drama

 

By Gregg Re | Fox News

 

Attorney General Bill Barr told ABC News on Thursday that President Trump's tweets "make it impossible for me to do my job," in an unusual swipe at the president, although he emphasized that Trump "has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case."

"I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases," Barr said. "I'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody ... whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board, or the president.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trump-tweets-roger-stone

 

 

 

Worst. Trump. Puppet. Ever.

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12 hours ago, njbuff said:


These leftists are out of their fvckin minds.

 

Independents are the important ones in this and most of them see leftists as I just stated.

 

I just don’t take these leftists seriously AT ALL.

 

Give me a name leftist posters name in here and I will tell you I just don’t take them seriously.

 

All of the leftists here are just like Juan Williams, which means just put them on mute before they talk cause they are about to make no sense whatsoever.

 

Obviously you can’t mute anyone here. 😀

Express one opinion that goes against the extreme right and the anger, bullying and name calling starts. I am more fiscal conservative than you will ever be, I just see right extremism as damaging as left extremism to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. AR 15s are as dangerous to my freedom and happiness  as are subsidized housing and food stamps.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Express one opinion that goes against the extreme right and the anger, bullying and name calling starts. I am more fiscal conservative than you will ever be, I just see right extremism as damaging as left extremism to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. AR 15s are as dangerous to my freedom and happiness  as are subsidized housing and food stamps.

 

 

 

The ratio of left violence to right violence is about 1000-1 and that is a fact.

 

I am not a Republican or a Democrat so I have no dog in the fight whatsoever.

 

The bullying and name calling is MUCH more pronounced on the left and that is just a fact of life. If you believe otherwise, you live a fvcking bubble.

 

And the left has no desire for freedom or happiness. They want power, and if you don't agree with them, they want to destroy you in every possible way because they hate you.

 

Roger Stone is facing 9 years in prison for lying to Congress.

 

Jim Comey lied to Congress. Andrew McCabe lied to Congress. John Brennan lied to Congree. James Clapper lied to Congress. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

 

Where are their 9 year sentences?

 

Lefties can literally get away with murder and anyone who isn't them gets 9 years in jail for process crimes. Where is the justice?

 

Weiner didn't even serve his full sentence of 21 months for being a disgusting pedophilic perv. TWENTY ONE MONTHS. 

 

If you don't see any of what I typed above for what it is, you are blinded and you lap up whatever the disgusting MSM tells you to believe.

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9 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

The ratio of left violence to right violence is about 1000-1 and that is a fact.

 

I am not a Republican or a Democrat so I have no dog in the fight whatsoever.

 

The bullying and name calling is MUCH more pronounced on the left and that is just a fact of life. If you believe otherwise, you live a fvcking bubble.

 

And the left has no desire for freedom or happiness. They want power, and if you don't agree with them, they want to destroy you in every possible way because they hate you.

 

Roger Stone is facing 9 years in prison for lying to Congress.

 

Jim Comey lied to Congress. Andrew McCabe lied to Congress. John Brennan lied to Congree. James Clapper lied to Congress. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

 

Where are their 9 year sentences?

 

Lefties can literally get away with murder and anyone who isn't them gets 9 years in jail for process crimes. Where is the justice?

 

Weiner didn't even serve his full sentence of 21 months for being a disgusting pedophilic perv. TWENTY ONE MONTHS. 

 

If you don't see any of what I typed above for what it is, you are blinded and you lap up whatever the disgusting MSM tells you to believe.

I actually believe much of what you say, except I am not blind. The left is the equal to the right in terms of hatred and bullying. Both extremes are relentless and pius. Both are dangerous to democracy and freedom. This all started with an opinion that Trump will want to extend past 8 years. I still think this is possible and if so you owe me a beer. 

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