The Roger Stone Case

[Rob's House]

What the hell does any of this have to do with whether Jordan Phillips gets the tag?

 

ADHD Motherfu¢kers.

[LSHMEAB]

15 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Oh *****! Tibs found the silver bullet! Quick! Get this to Nancy, wake her up if you need to- she actually operates better when hungover. If it happens quick we can get the impeachment going before the weekend!

Dude intervened on a case on of personal interest. Is he going to do the same for the hundreds of thousands facing the same situation?

2 hours ago, njbuff said:

Didn’t Obama invoke executive privilege to exonerate Holder?

 

Uhhh. Nah.

[Doc Brown]

12 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO when Trump wins in 2020, you will begin to hear talk of ending 8 yr max. Congress has no limits. Senate has no limits. Supreme Court has no limits so why should 1 branch of government be restricted. Trump, Putin, Kim rule the world.

How far gone do you have to be to actually think this?  If anything Don Jr. will pry run which won't make him all that different than other presidential families (Adams, Harrison, Bush) or failed attempts (Clinton).  Maybe attack him on not following through with his campaign pledge to implement congressional campaign limits.

3 hours ago, njbuff said:

Didn’t Obama invoke executive privilege to exonerate Holder?

 

So, the President weighing in on Stone gets the media’s and Democrats tampons all in a wad and is an impeachable offense?

 

The left’s hypocrisy Is beyond laughable and you people have been called out.

Stone is a private citizen convicted of multiple crimes by a jury of his peers so that's not a great comparison. Most presidents have invoked executive privilege multiple times.  

 

Trump shouldn't comment about this crap on Twitter as he puts people like Barr in an awkward position to the point where he had to go on network tv and call the president's tweets not helpful.  Do it behind the scenes like most previous presidents.  Seven to nine years does seem a bit harsh despite Stone being a horrible human being.  

Edited February 14, 2020 by Doc Brown

[Niagara Bill]

14 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Is this really your honest opinion?  Because if you honestly believe this you should seriously look into getting your frontal lobe tested.  I am not kidding.  If your honest opinion sounds like a comic book theme you are either hyperbolic or seriously needing of professional help.

I am neither a supporter of Trump or detractor but he has entered into many controversial directions so term limits seems a logical direction for a man with this huge ego.IMHO.  Revenge is a powerful force for him.

 

[Niagara Bill]

8 hours ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

Pffft

You're an idiot.

 

Blocked. This dude is hopeless.

Block me for expressing an opinion that an illogical man will take what appears to be an illogical direction to logical people. Seriously.

Not surprising that you revert to name calling and bullying within 4 words. ?

 

[KRC]

14 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...Barr has this right IMO.......the daily dose of crap from Tweetie is over the top now.....Jesus............

Barr says Trump tweets 'make it impossible to do my job' amid Roger Stone drama

 

By Gregg Re | Fox News

 

Attorney General Bill Barr told ABC News on Thursday that President Trump's tweets "make it impossible for me to do my job," in an unusual swipe at the president, although he emphasized that Trump "has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case."

"I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases," Barr said. "I'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody ... whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board, or the president.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trump-tweets-roger-stone

 

 

 

Worst. Trump. Puppet. Ever.

[Niagara Bill]

12 hours ago, njbuff said:

These leftists are out of their fvckin minds.

 

Independents are the important ones in this and most of them see leftists as I just stated.

 

I just don’t take these leftists seriously AT ALL.

 

Give me a name leftist posters name in here and I will tell you I just don’t take them seriously.

 

All of the leftists here are just like Juan Williams, which means just put them on mute before they talk cause they are about to make no sense whatsoever.

 

Obviously you can’t mute anyone here. ?

Express one opinion that goes against the extreme right and the anger, bullying and name calling starts. I am more fiscal conservative than you will ever be, I just see right extremism as damaging as left extremism to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. AR 15s are as dangerous to my freedom and happiness  as are subsidized housing and food stamps.

 

 

[njbuff]

13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Express one opinion that goes against the extreme right and the anger, bullying and name calling starts. I am more fiscal conservative than you will ever be, I just see right extremism as damaging as left extremism to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. AR 15s are as dangerous to my freedom and happiness  as are subsidized housing and food stamps.

 

 

 

The ratio of left violence to right violence is about 1000-1 and that is a fact.

 

I am not a Republican or a Democrat so I have no dog in the fight whatsoever.

 

The bullying and name calling is MUCH more pronounced on the left and that is just a fact of life. If you believe otherwise, you live a fvcking bubble.

 

And the left has no desire for freedom or happiness. They want power, and if you don't agree with them, they want to destroy you in every possible way because they hate you.

 

Roger Stone is facing 9 years in prison for lying to Congress.

 

Jim Comey lied to Congress. Andrew McCabe lied to Congress. John Brennan lied to Congree. James Clapper lied to Congress. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

 

Where are their 9 year sentences?

 

Lefties can literally get away with murder and anyone who isn't them gets 9 years in jail for process crimes. Where is the justice?

 

Weiner didn't even serve his full sentence of 21 months for being a disgusting pedophilic perv. TWENTY ONE MONTHS. 

 

If you don't see any of what I typed above for what it is, you are blinded and you lap up whatever the disgusting MSM tells you to believe.

[Niagara Bill]

9 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

The ratio of left violence to right violence is about 1000-1 and that is a fact.

 

I am not a Republican or a Democrat so I have no dog in the fight whatsoever.

 

The bullying and name calling is MUCH more pronounced on the left and that is just a fact of life. If you believe otherwise, you live a fvcking bubble.

 

And the left has no desire for freedom or happiness. They want power, and if you don't agree with them, they want to destroy you in every possible way because they hate you.

 

Roger Stone is facing 9 years in prison for lying to Congress.

 

Jim Comey lied to Congress. Andrew McCabe lied to Congress. John Brennan lied to Congree. James Clapper lied to Congress. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

 

Where are their 9 year sentences?

 

Lefties can literally get away with murder and anyone who isn't them gets 9 years in jail for process crimes. Where is the justice?

 

Weiner didn't even serve his full sentence of 21 months for being a disgusting pedophilic perv. TWENTY ONE MONTHS. 

 

If you don't see any of what I typed above for what it is, you are blinded and you lap up whatever the disgusting MSM tells you to believe.

I actually believe much of what you say, except I am not blind. The left is the equal to the right in terms of hatred and bullying. Both extremes are relentless and pius. Both are dangerous to democracy and freedom. This all started with an opinion that Trump will want to extend past 8 years. I still think this is possible and if so you owe me a beer. 

[SoCal Deek]

You know it’s a slow news week when the Roger Stone case gets its own thread! Geez, I wish Washington would get to work doing things that actually benefit the American people. 

[Nanker]

1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said:

I actually believe much of what you say, except I am not blind. The left is the equal to the right in terms of hatred and bullying. Both extremes are relentless and pius. Both are dangerous to democracy and freedom. This all started with an opinion that Trump will want to extend past 8 years. I still think this is possible and if so you owe me a beer. 

You’re delusional. I already explained to you that it won’t and can’t happen and why. 

[njbuff]

6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

I actually believe much of what you say, except I am not blind. The left is the equal to the right in terms of hatred and bullying. Both extremes are relentless and pius. Both are dangerous to democracy and freedom. This all started with an opinion that Trump will want to extend past 8 years. I still think this is possible and if so you owe me a beer. 

 

It's not equal and to say otherwise is just foolhardy.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

How far gone do you have to be to actually think this?  If anything Don Jr. will pry run which won't make him all that different than other presidential families (Adams, Harrison, Bush) or failed attempts (Clinton).  Maybe attack him on not following through with his campaign pledge to implement congressional campaign limits.

Stone is a private citizen convicted of multiple crimes by a jury of his peers so that's not a great comparison. Most presidents have invoked executive privilege multiple times.  

 

Trump shouldn't comment about this crap on Twitter as he puts people like Barr in an awkward position to the point where he had to go on network tv and call the president's tweets not helpful.  Do it behind the scenes like most previous presidents.  Seven to nine years does seem a bit harsh despite Stone being a horrible human being.  

I'm putting this through my Meetinthemiddle-o-meter:

 

No indication Trump will barricade himself in the Oval office until 2037;

No indication anyone on this board would support him doing so;

Recognition this is some far-out-there-thinking;

Don Quincy Trump Jr maybe runs for President;

Stone convicted;

Stone sentencing recommendation probably a bit harsh; 

Trump shouldn't tweet out on DOJ matters because it makes AGs job harder;

Acknowledgement that other presidents do exactly the same thing but Twitter makes it public; 

 

 

Assessment: very reasonable. Welcome to Lebanon (Kansas). 

[Niagara Bill]

29 minutes ago, Nanker said:

You’re delusional. I already explained to you that it won’t and can’t happen and why. 

That will be two beers for you.

25 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

It's not equal and to say otherwise is just foolhardy.

Foolhardy is not being able to see that both extremes are dangerous and equal. I'll pass on that beer with you. 

[ALF]

This is who Roger Stone really is

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/opinions/this-is-who-roger-stone-really-is-stewart/index.html

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, KRC said:

 

Worst. Trump. Puppet. Ever.

 

…..yup...he should bring back Holder...one of the best ever...……..

Edited February 14, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[KRC]

17 minutes ago, ALF said:

This is who Roger Stone really is

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/opinions/this-is-who-roger-stone-really-is-stewart/index.html

 

If this is the criteria for long jail sentences, it is going to suck for the Democrats as their actions would get them life sentences.

[Bob in Mich]

16 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That only seems that way because the left loses their collective schitt over every single thing Trump does. They're counting ice cream scoops and sniffles, for crying out loud, and insisting America as we know is going to spiral into a doomed, horrific society because of ... (checks notes).... he sniffles a lot!

 

Maybe get the Q-tibs to quit attacking people for a red hat, or driving vans through their booths, or telling white people to leave a multicultural center because they don't belong there.

 

Or maybe just get them to STFU for 24 hours. Just STFU.

 

But they can't. Cuz Q-tibs gotta Q-tibs.

 

Understood.  It must seem as though every liberal is an idiot when you attribute every foolish lefty statement to every person on the left.  In fact, a similar level of foolishness can be found in some on the right.  If I attributed every stupid right leaning statement to every righty poster here, I am sure they would look like even bigger morons to me. 

 

Since I have no more control over left leaning foolishness than you have over right leaning foolishness, we are going to have to learn to be more discerning......unless you like the frustration and anger. 

 

Here's a thought..... sort of like addressing racial prejudice, why not talk to individual posters, ask for their individual views, and try to resist stereotyping?  Or, since you claim to enjoy the national divide, keep doing what you are doing I guess.

[Bob in Mich]

2 hours ago, KRC said:

 

Worst. Trump. Puppet. Ever.

 

Certainly Barr's statement was meant to be heard by more than Trump though, right?   With a lot less fanfare he could have picked up the phone to tell Trump, if that was his audience. 

 

So, making a public call for Trump to stop this tweeting was meant to inform who.... that Barr will be what .....independent or what?  The Justice Dept?  The public?   I am unsure of what was behind a public statement but something was.  

 

Why do you folks think this was done publicly? 

[KRC]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Certainly Barr's statement was meant to be heard by more than Trump though, right?   With a lot less fanfare he could have picked up the phone to tell Trump, if that was his audience. 

 

So, making a public call for Trump to stop this tweeting was meant to inform who.... that Barr will be what .....independent or what?  The Justice Dept?  The public?   I am unsure of what was behind a public statement but something was.  

 

Why do you folks think this was done publicly? 

 

It was done publicly because the morans in the media and the Dems keep stating that Barr is a Trump puppet and that Trump is influencing him, therefore IMPEACH and fire Barr. Normal people would just pick up the phone, but Barr is doing this to shut down the Dems and media (not that it is going to matter, because they have a narrative to maintain).

[Rob's House]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You know it’s a slow news week when the Roger Stone case gets its own thread! Geez, I wish Washington would get to work doing things that actually benefit the American people. 

 

It didn't. Tibs the troll started it and for some reason people are feeding him by having a serious discussion in it. 

 

Now that we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that he did not get a fair trial the odds are high that he will eventually delete the thread.

[Deranged Rhino]

14 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

Why do you folks think this was done publicly? 

Because justice is coming, and has been coming for the past year and a half. I’ve been trying to warn you... 

 

 

(Bob, once again parroting the MSM talking point without question or consideration ... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/14/politics/donald-trump-william-barr-justice-loyalty/index.html? )

[Bob in Mich]

5 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

It was done publicly because the morans in the media and the Dems keep stating that Barr is a Trump puppet and that Trump is influencing him, therefore IMPEACH and fire Barr. Normal people would just pick up the phone, but Barr is doing this to shut down the Dems and media (not that it is going to matter, because they have a narrative to maintain).

 

Well, if Barr did this publicly because he thought it was now starting to appear like Trump was directing his actions, the Dems and the media are no more moronic than Barr for making that same observation.   I agree though that the press and our Congress were also meant to hear the message from Barr.

 

Trump is impulsive and so self important that I doubt this guidance from Barr restrains his improper tweeting for long.   Guess time will tell.

[Deranged Rhino]

Bob misses the point. 
 

Again. 

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You know it’s a slow news week when the Roger Stone case gets its own thread! Geez, I wish Washington would get to work doing things that actually benefit the American people. 

The president pressuring the DOJ, judges and jurors is a big deal. So corrupt 

[Tiberius]

22 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

It was done publicly because the morans in the media and the Dems keep stating that Barr is a Trump puppet and that Trump is influencing him, therefore IMPEACH and fire Barr. Normal people would just pick up the phone, but Barr is doing this to shut down the Dems and media (not that it is going to matter, because they have a narrative to maintain).

Gees, why would people think that? Misrepresenting the Mueller report, forcing career prosecutors to change sentencing recommendations of the President's friend, not recusing himself from the whistleblower issue, even though he was mentioned in the corrupt act on the phone and on and on 

[Deranged Rhino]

The only ones who continue to misconstrue the Mueller report is GarBoTibs. 

 

(But details)

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Yet the normal crowd of low information TDS addled minds think this is something to panic over. Because they're emotional, not logical. They're programmed, not independent thinkers. 

(And the real goal is to discredit Barr's work, cement Stone's "conviction for Russia!", and bury the truth)

[Tiberius]

20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

The only ones who continue to misconstrue the Mueller report is GarBoTibs. 

 

(But details)

You lie about it almost dailey. Roger Stone is going to jail for obstructing Mueller's investigation 

[Deranged Rhino]

I don't lie. I post the report -- knowing that you've never read it, will never read it, and the very sight of it makes you retreat like a Vampire facing a clove of garlic. 

 

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

[Tiberius]

16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yet the normal crowd of low information TDS addled minds think this is something to panic over. Because they're emotional, not logical. They're programmed, not independent thinkers. 

(And the real goal is to discredit Barr's work, cement Stone's "conviction for Russia!", and bury the truth)

My God, you are such a POS 

[Deranged Rhino]

I'm a POS -- for posting an article that has a different opinion than yours because it relies on actual facts, not suppositions and emotional outrage. 

 

Keep on thinking you're stable, Tibs. It's going well for you.

 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I'm a POS --  

 

Yes

[Warren Zevon]

Rumor has it Soleimani was actually killed on Valentine's Day in 2015! DR can you confirm?

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I'm putting this through my Meetinthemiddle-o-meter:

 

No indication Trump will barricade himself in the Oval office until 2037;

No indication anyone on this board would support him doing so;

Recognition this is some far-out-there-thinking;

Don Quincy Trump Jr maybe runs for President;

Stone convicted;

Stone sentencing recommendation probably a bit harsh; 

Trump shouldn't tweet out on DOJ matters because it makes AGs job harder;

Acknowledgement that other presidents do exactly the same thing but Twitter makes it public; 

 

 

Assessment: very reasonable. Welcome to Lebanon (Kansas). 

Not a Chiefs fan.  The only reason I think Trump may not be in cahoots with Barr is because he's dumb enough to tweet about what he'd like to see Barr do.

[Koko78]

7 hours ago, KRC said:

 

Worst. Trump. Puppet. Ever.

 

Clearly Trump needs a wingman.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

43 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Not a Chiefs fan.  The only reason I think Trump may not be in cahoots with Barr is because he's dumb enough to tweet about what he'd like to see Barr do.

However you hash it out is ok with me. 

 

  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

Rumor has it Soleimani was actually killed on Valentine's Day in 2015! DR can you confirm?

 

 

..have to check with the mullahs as to why they delayed mourning until Jan. 4, 2020.......probably had to ripen.....

[SoCal Deek]

So when the previous President of the United States jumps into a case at a local level, and calls the Massachusetts Police Department 'stupid' for SPEAKING HARSHLY to a professor friend of his , that's OK?  But when the current President comments on something as serious as sentencing his friend to YEARS IN PRISON.....that's outrageous? If you say so.

[Nanker]

Sounds like it’s time for a White House Beer Summit. 
 

By the way, anybody remember how many “Czars” that B O had? Sounds suspiciously like Russian influence, does it not. 
 

Oh, he was so cool... and dreamy.