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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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13 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

You can't have it both ways.

 

One guy says things that are legitimately stupid.

 

It'll be gone in 15 days. (Wrong)

 

Is it a flu, is it a virus, is a germ? Nobody knows. (It's a Corona Virus. It's literally in the name)

 

Maybe we can disinfect the lungs. Give them a cleaning. We'll look into it. (Complete stupidity)

 

Biden also says things that are dumb, but you can't defend one guy and rail the other. 


When you say you in your last sentence you’re including yourself correct?

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39 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Absolutely correct.  The job of the media is to hold our representatives accountable for their words and action.  I say that regardless of political affiliation as I am registered as an Independent.

Good, 

 

To that bolded part, I disagree a bit.

i think it is the media’s job to report on what the president says, not “hold him accountable”. Maybe leave that to op ed pieces.  For too long (pre Trump) ostensible news reports contain opinions masked as facts. 

 

The voting public is who is who should hold politicians accountable, no?

 

 

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  Dealing with the media reminds me a lot of dealing with my kid. Everything I say I have to go back

and break every section down with exactly what I meant so I don't have to say "ugh no that's not what i said

or meant" a whole bunch of times.

For instance: When are you opening the pool?

                        me: later

                        next day: why aren't you opening the pool, you said later.

                        me: I'll get to it next week

                        (snow on the ground) 

                        Why aren't you opening the pool you said this week.

                        me: ......

  A friend of mine has a 11 year daughter who can be annoying, and she quipped to her daughter one day go jump off a bridge.

Months later, during an argument, she whined - "you told me to kill myself!"

 

   I can see how exhausting it has to be dealing with the left from Trump's perspective...

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2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


When you say you in your last sentence you’re including yourself correct?

 

I think Biden is a horrible candidate. 


Way too old, no new policies, too prone to gaffs. 

 

They're both junk options as President, but I think one would be less awful than the other. 

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Because he didn't say what you're saying he said. And he didn't imply it either. 

 

Why are you being dishonest about it instead of dealing with the actual facts?

 

Because his goal is to obfuscate for evil. That requires getting marching orders first. If you think he thinks for himself, you haven't been paying attention to his screed. 

Again his words:

 

“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” Trump said during Thursday’s coronavirus press briefing. “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets inside the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

 

So you are hanging your hat on the fact that he did not say the specific type of disinfectant?  And you're saying he didn't imply anything, when he said right here is there a way to inject disinfectant?  The words are right in front of you, yet to deny them.  It was a dumb things to say.  Although he is right on one thing:  disinfectants would do a number on the lungs.  They would cause all sorts of respiratory issues including potentially death, at least according to the CDC when talking about the one specific disinfectant:  bleach.  

 

Science matters. Words matter.  

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30 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

It wasn't Trump who said it -- it was Karl. 

 

The media said it. 

 

Then the media lied about who said it and pinned it on Trump. They did this in REAL TIME, in front of your faces... and ya'll still fell for it. Why?

Trump suggested injecting UV light and disinfectant.

 

As far as the bleach an alcohol aspect, Trump made his suggestion after the CDC dude talked about the effects of UV light, alcohol and bleach on the virus.  What Trump said was just plain dumb.  

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4 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

To that bolded part, I disagree a bit.

i think it is the media’s job to report on what the president says, not “hold him accountable”. Maybe leave that to op ed pieces.  For too long (pre Trump) ostensible news reports contain opinions masked as facts. 

 

The voting public is who is who should hold politicians accountable, no?

 

 

I would agree it's our job to hold our elected representatives responsible.  It is the role of a free press to inform.  I agree media should not twist things, regardless of political persuasion.

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Just now, oldmanfan said:

Again his words:

 

“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” Trump said during Thursday’s coronavirus press briefing. “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets inside the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

 

Why keep posting truncated clips instead of what he fully said? Is it because your position is built on bullshite? Yes, yes it is: 

 

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

 

 

So you are hanging your hat on the fact that he did not say the specific type of disinfectant?  And you're saying he didn't imply anything, when he said right here is there a way to inject disinfectant?  The words are right in front of you, yet to deny them.  It was a dumb things to say.  Although he is right on one thing:  disinfectants would do a number on the lungs.  They would cause all sorts of respiratory issues including potentially death, at least according to the CDC when talking about the one specific disinfectant:  bleach.  

 

Science matters. Words matter.  

 

You said he told people to drink it -- he didn't. You were wrong.

 

Was he talking to the people in that statement? Or asking questions of a medical expert? Does that make a difference? You bet it does -- unless you're being dishonest as you are and trying to score points rather than deal with truth. 

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1 minute ago, Scraps said:

Trump suggested injecting UV light and disinfectant.

 

As far as the bleach an alcohol aspect, Trump made his suggestion after the CDC dude talked about the effects of UV light, alcohol and bleach on the virus.  What Trump said was just plain dumb.  

He asked an extremely vague question that was probably nonsensical. He in no way made a suggestion about anything. 

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

I would agree it's our job to hold our elected representatives responsible.  It is the role of a free press to inform.  I agree media should not twist things, regardless of political persuasion.

 

And yet, you're letting them twist this very topic. Check yourself. 

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2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Trump suggested injecting UV light and disinfectant.

 

As far as the bleach an alcohol aspect, Trump made his suggestion after the CDC dude talked about the effects of UV light, alcohol and bleach on the virus.  What Trump said was just plain dumb.  

 

WRONG. 

 

He asked the DOCTOR if the DOCTOR thinks that's possible. Trump didn't suggest anything. 

 

What's dumb is taking a statement and twisting it into something else entirely then claiming it's truth. Don't be like that. Be better than that. 

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1 hour ago, westside2 said:

Trumptard? What are you 2 years old?

I'm channeling Trump and his loyal followers.  Quite frankly, if you are ######ed enough to think injecting disinfectant has merit, you deserve the label.

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