Taro T Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: China closed all of its movie theaters but then continued to claim the virus couldn't be passed from humans to humans. A large part of the reason South Korea (IMO) got a jump on things is because they have a very healthy degree of skepticism regarding China's veracity. They would have known much earlier that China was flat out lying. Wonder what kind of information about the crisis could've been had using humint in China? Would've been helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Considering the history between China and Korean, can you blame ROK for not taking China at their word? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: All you're doing now is proving that your brain is addled with a toxic mixture of unchecked TDS and identity politics. Citing Wikipedia as any kind of source -- especially on this topic -- is not an argument a serious person makes. Just like a serious person doesn't argue that there is any realistic comparison to the US and South Korean. Just like a serious person doesn't argue that there is any realistic analysis you can draw by comparing Medieval Europe and Asia to the 21st century global economy. ... But, as you just proved all morning, you are not a serious person. You're a broken person. By all means, feel free to contest any of the above examples. They are all common knowledge. It's not like we're writing a scholarly journal entry on this forum. Unless you think none of those things actually happened just because I used the wrong link. So far, all you've been able to do is name call and label. I wonder if that will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Capco said: So far, all you've been able to do is name call and label. I wonder if that will change. I'll prove how poor your analysis is and how weak a position you've staked out for yourself, @Capco: Prove to me that Trump's decision to close off flights from China to combat the virus was driven by his racism. Show me the evidence -- not that he's racist, but that the decision he made was. And do it without using or regurgitating any CCP propaganda... Can you? No. You can't. All you have is your supposition that it was done because he's racist. Which, you have every right to believe -- and we have every right to point out how dumb a position it is to hold. Your brain is broken, Capco. You don't need to prove that anymore. You can rest easy knowing that everyone believes in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 If so, this will be an "interesting" presser today: 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: All you have is your supposition that it was done because he's racist. Correct. And I have loads of prior behavior to point to that supports my position. And all you have is your supposition that it was done because he's a very capable president, making decisions where his noted xenophobia never plays a factor (lol)... with practically nothing to support that point of view. At least I can make my case without labeling someone else with a broken brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Capco said: Correct. And I have loads of prior behavior to point to that supports my position. And all you have is your supposition that it was done because he's a very capable president, making decisions where his noted xenophobia never plays a factor (lol)... with practically nothing to support that point of view. At least I can make my case without labeling someone else with a broken brain. You haven't made ANY case. All you've done is expose your own mental shortcomings for the world to see. Per the bolded, that's nothing I ever said in this discussion. But, because you know you have no real argument to make other than one about your FEELZ, you have to invent what I said in order to argue against it. That's the move a broken man with an honesty problem does. Identity politics is more dangerous than 'Rona. One day you'll figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, Capco said: Here's a wiki article with over 320(!) citations making the case for Trump being a racist. Just from the summary (lol) we have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump The evidence is nothing short of overwhelming. And you've provided zero evidence to the contrary. Yet somehow I'm the one who is proven to not be operating with a fully functional brain. You have a special, rare kind of logic. I'll bet you think it's a gift, too. Links are to articles of people expressing their opinion that Trump is a racist or interpreting his words /actions as racist? What a joke. Seriously " And you've provided zero evidence to the contrary." - Such a good little liberal. Label someone a racist unless they can prove they are not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Capco said: I'm allowed to think he's a racist without discrediting everything else I say. What you said was he banned travel BECAUSE he is a racist. You can't just change the conversation because you puked up stupidity an hour ago. Seriously. Do yourself a favor. TH3 is here with his weekly contribution of NPC puke. Give him the reigns for a bit and take a nap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: What you said was he banned travel BECAUSE he is a racist. You can't just change the conversation because you puked up stupidity an hour ago. Pardon? I'm not changing anything. I said I think he had "petty and/or racist" motives for the travel ban. I did not say the travel ban was exclusively racist at any point in time. And I stand by my statement. 10 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Links are to articles of people expressing their opinion that Trump is a racist or interpreting his words /actions as racist? What a joke. Seriously " And you've provided zero evidence to the contrary." - Such a good little liberal. Label someone a racist unless they can prove they are not None of those examples screams "hmmm we might have some racist undertones here" to you? Not a single one? It takes some unique talent to get your head that far in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Capco said: Here's a wiki article with over 320(!) citations making the case for Trump being a racist. Just from the summary (lol) we have: -Sued by DoJ for housing discrimination, 1973/78 -leading proponent of bitherism conspiracy -vilification of the wrongly accused Central Park 5 -speech about Mexicans being criminals and rapists -repeatedly linked African Americans and Hispanics with violent crime -implied a moral equivalence between the white supremacist marchers and those who protested against them at Charlottesville -referred to El Salvador, Haiti, and African countries as "sh|tholes" - Trump tweeted about Democratic congresswomen: "Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done." This Go back to your country mentality is a common racial trope. Several studies and surveys have stated that racist attitudes and racial resentment have fueled Trump's political ascendance, and have become more significant than economic factors in determining the party allegiance of U.S. voters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump The evidence is nothing short of overwhelming. And you've provided zero evidence to the contrary. Yet somehow I'm the one who is proven to not be operating with a fully functional brain. You have a special, rare kind of logic. I'll bet you think it's a gift, too. I look forward to reading more at your link and commenting further but most of the "examples" in your post aren't racist acts or comments whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I look forward to reading more at your link and commenting further but most of the "examples" in your post aren't racist acts or comments whatsoever. And a large chunk of those examples just aren’t true and have long ago been disproven. Like the “he implied a moral equivalence” in Charlottesville — something that was disproven years ago but he still cites as fact. Broken brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I look forward to reading more at your link and commenting further but most of the "examples" in your post aren't racist acts or comments whatsoever. What ones fall outside your definition of "most"? Be careful - you might be honest and call #OrangeManBad a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Probably the most unlikeliest result of COVID-19 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Probably the most unlikeliest result of COVID-19 Mouth ---> glasses --> hand --> whatever is next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Capco said: Pardon? I'm not changing anything. I said I think he had "petty and/or racist" motives for the travel ban. I did not say the travel ban was exclusively racist at any point in time. And I stand by my statement. None of those examples screams "hmmm we might have some racist undertones here" to you? Not a single one? It takes some unique talent to get your head that far in the sand. You are ridiculous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I look forward to reading more at your link and commenting further but most of the "examples" in your post aren't racist acts or comments whatsoever. At least this is an honest answer I can work with. Thank you. I genuinely don't understand how you can see that pattern of behavior and not have some alarm bells going off. And it's not like this is a novel, radical concept. Many people have seen this same pattern of behavior and independently came to this conclusion. His behavior has at times been downright appalling when considering the level of decorum expected of the POTUS, both nationally and internationally. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Unfortunately.................there is NO chance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Capco said: His behavior has at times been downright appalling when considering the level of decorum expected of the POTUS, both nationally and internationally. and how dare you call him out on it But it's cool to have 100+ page threads bashing CNN/Clintons/Obamas/Pelosi/etc. These things are tolerated and celebrated Edited April 2, 2020 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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