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Reportedly McDermott needed to be restrained in the tunnel at halftime

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11 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:


yeah— but one is just a technical violation really. It would be another matter if they ran the play with 12 guys.

No, it's more than a technical violation.  It would allow a team to change their personnel and scheme, depending who comes off the field.

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3 hours ago, BuffaloSol said:

I was livid at this!

Seriously how do you not get fired at the highest level of your profession when you do something like this?

I saw that too. Ball was downed at the eight, and there was a "half the distance" penalty that moved the ball to the 6 instead of the 4. Huh?

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7 hours ago, SectionC3 said:


we should have blown them up on their victory kneels at the end of the game.  This was bush league.  

 

Something like this?

 

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18 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Something like this?

 

 

Since they all occured before whistle would u only mark off 15 yards?

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2 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Since they all occured before whistle would u only mark off 15 yards?

 

Hopefully offsetting penalties.

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5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Hopefully offsetting penalties.

 

Probably several ejections though. Who knows

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9 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Had to be the 12 men in the huddle no call.  He was fuming on the sidelines.  The vein in his forehead was in serious jeopardy of popping. 

Yeah...he has that one milky vein...you can see it!

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3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ok, so you are in the camp that the DLine should go 100% in every victory formation? Ok, fair enough, see how far that gets them.

The Schiano School for How to Alienate Your Peers and Piss Off Everyone.

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9 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess.  Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call.  Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it.  I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset.  

 

Interested to hear if there is anything more.  

 

Glad to see him fired up.  The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd.  

The league is made it abundantly clear that just being a blatant pass interference is not going to get a non-call overturned 95% of the time.  The DB actually has to commit assault.  Challenging PI is a good way to lose time outs.       

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5 hours ago, BuffaloBud said:

Officials (not the crew, but each official on the crew) are graded on every play by the ref mgmt and NFL.  That's how they determine the playoff and Super Bowl officiating crews.  Reward the best.

 

yeah, but that is not much of a grading scale.  The worst thing that happens is you get 16 reg season games.  Overall officiating is poor, and there are likely better refs in college.  Time to weed out the bottom 20 percent.  

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45 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The Schiano School for How to Alienate Your Peers and Piss Off Everyone.

 

He's had a pretty amazing run since leaving Rutgers, which has landed him a high profile job as the head coach of... er... *checks notes*... Rutgers.

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2 hours ago, Pokebball said:

No, it's more than a technical violation.  It would allow a team to change their personnel and scheme, depending who comes off the field.


good point. That said, sometimes those penalties are just caused by substitution confusion by the O more than anything. 

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10 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess.  Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call.  Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it.  I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset.  

 

Interested to hear if there is anything more.  

 

Glad to see him fired up.  The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd.  

So what I'm reading is that anger and violence solves problems.  Good to know.  ⚔️

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11 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

They gifted us a drive there at the end too.  

It takes a large set of onions to post that here but it looked that way to me too. 

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10 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

I just felt like - its too risky with them never overturning it.  Id rather keep the Timeout which we'll need later

I disagree. That was a pretty blatant PI. The defender can go for the all,but not through the offensive player. 

 

Yes, I know theleaguedoesntwantto reverse. PI. 

 

But that one was so blatant, it was worth gambling a timeout. And after a few replays on the Jumbotron,the refs, and everone o the field, would know the refs effed up. And they'd give Bflo a makeup call 

 

McD had an extra minute between quarters to think it over. I sorta think he choked. 

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7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ok, so you are in the camp that the DLine should go 100% in every victory formation? Ok, fair enough, see how far that gets them.

Yes they should. Against the Ravens. Put three guys on the center to blow him up. 

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15 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

Don't know if anyone answered this yet. In case they didn't, it's around 18:45.

 

He said there was some jawing from some Ravens, he'd heard (not seen) and wasn't even sure it was McDermott who was involved.

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11 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Not sure I have ever seen anyone get that mad over a missed 12 guys in the huddle. They didn’t have 12 when they ran the play, did they? 

 

 

Having 12 guys in the huddle is a major tactical advantage for that team. Which is why it's a penalty in the first place.

 

Which guy will leave? Depending which guy leaves, the opponent might want a different personnel package in. Any coach would have been angry about that, regardless of how much it showed in his face.

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Jumpin  in late here but I had to vent: 

 

I’ve been a McD critic since day one, and I’ve been happily eating crow so far this year. Yet, one of my remaining criticisms has been that his sideline demeanor drives me nuts. It always bugged me that I seemed to be more passionate and fired up at certain times than the head coach. Obviously lots of ppl value is calm nature and positive approach to coaching, but I LOVED seeing that fire. I hope to see more of it. I think the guys rally around it when used appropriately. Being of such a general calm nature makes these blow ups even more meaningful to the guys. 
 

Way to go, McD 

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28 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Jumpin  in late here but I had to vent: 

 

I’ve been a McD critic since day one, and I’ve been happily eating crow so far this year. Yet, one of my remaining criticisms has been that his sideline demeanor drives me nuts. It always bugged me that I seemed to be more passionate and fired up at certain times than the head coach. Obviously lots of ppl value is calm nature and positive approach to coaching, but I LOVED seeing that fire. I hope to see more of it. I think the guys rally around it when used appropriately. Being of such a general calm nature makes these blow ups even more meaningful to the guys. 
 

Way to go, McD 


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13 hours ago, BuffaloBill963 said:

There was zero snark in my reply. Everything I said was spot on and sincere.

 

 

Spot on implies you have facts to back your statements.  Produce your facts, if not everything you said is an opinion

 

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20 hours ago, mannc said:

Maybe he wanted to go after Harbaugh for the fake kneel-down.

Hope not, that would be chicken ***** of him.

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7 hours ago, Markaf431 said:

 

 

Spot on implies you have facts to back your statements.  Produce your facts, if not everything you said is an opinion

 

You can infer whatever you want from my statement, but I’m not wasting time w people who have hostile aggressive attitudes like you. You’re already preset against my stance. But for sure keep believing that the ref situation isn’t intentional on the NFL’s part. 

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I agree that it’s more than high time to move towards full-time (and better compensated) officials.  Lord knows the NFL can afford it.

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