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Per Reports: Owners and NFLPA close to agreement on 14 playoff teams. How do you think they do seeding

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1 minute ago, Rock'em Sock'em said:

And #7 needs to travel to the other stadium between games.  Incentive.  Love it!

Ahh ***** typo lol

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This scenario has been floated by MTC on NFLR for two years.  It makes sense and less preseason is a great thing.  The league and the NFLPA both win.  More $ for both sides.  I wonder if they get a second bye as a concession.  That would make players happy.

 

Kirwan and Mills made the case that the last six years as of last year the #7 wild card seed wood have a 9-7 or better record.  The division winner will never change and there is always the possibility a division winner has a worse record like Seattle several years ago.

 

Sounds like a good negotiation.

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17 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

This scenario has been floated by MTC on NFLR for two years.  It makes sense and less preseason is a great thing.  The league and the NFLPA both win.  More $ for both sides.  I wonder if they get a second bye as a concession.  That would make players happy.

 

Kirwan and Mills made the case that the last six years as of last year the #7 wild card seed wood have a 9-7 or better record.  The division winner will never change and there is always the possibility a division winner has a worse record like Seattle several years ago.

 

Sounds like a good negotiation.

 

 

I do not see how the league makes money adding one playoff game per conference and eliminating 16 (or 32) preseason games including parking, concessions and sales in shop.

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Winning the division should mean something. I’d like for winning the division to still supercede records because it’s still not fair when you include strength of schedule to compare records

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9 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

14 teams in the playoffs? Lame! But it's all about money.

 

That playoff seeding example is awful. Only the #1 seed gets the bye?

That is the only way given those numbers and that severely weights the outcome. The theoretical strongest team getting a bye....

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Only way it works is by only letting the 1 seed a bye. Even if you ddi something like baseball where the 6 would face the 7 that means the 1 seed gets 2 weeks which is too much

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9 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

The top record would get a bye and the 3 other division winners would host the playoff games vs. the 3 wild cards. The league will want to preserve the value of winning the division. 

This ^^ The NFL will not seed a WC ahead of a division winner in any circumstance. So much of the season structure revolves around division play, they won’t diminish it through seeding. 

4 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

I do not see how the league makes money adding one playoff game per conference and eliminating 16 (or 32) preseason games including parking, concessions and sales in shop.

If it wasn’t going to make money, and a lot of it at that, it wouldn’t even be considered. 

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4 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

I do not see how the league makes money adding one playoff game per conference and eliminating 16 (or 32) preseason games including parking, concessions and sales in shop.

 

Limeaid, I’m stating the TV revenue will increase significantly and even stadium attendance goes up with real games vs. pre-season where it is almost nothing for preseason games, except for season ticket holders.  It depends how many preseason games they cut.  

 

The other consideration is these sixteen extra regular season games in neutral sites increases the potential NFL fan base.  I can see games in Mexico City, San Antonio, Birmingham, Toronto, London of course, but possible a city in Germany.  Remember in NFL Europe the highest attendance for those games came out of German cities.

 

China and Japan is tough given the distance, but I can see the NFL trying to push for it.  My speculation is they will look at only two preseason games and more competitive practices throughout the league.

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9 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Gilding the lily.....but I'll be tuning in. 

 

Maybe I missed it, but roster expansion would seem a must with this plan.

 

At a minimum you dress all 53, and maybe increase the practice squad by a couple as they are cost efficient.

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One step closer to sixteen teams And 18 games !!!

 

the league is so slow enacting my initiatives , but they will get there eventually

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

14 teams in the playoffs? Lame! But it's all about money.

 

That playoff seeding example is awful. Only the #1 seed gets the bye?

14 teams in the playoffs may be lame, but the current setup with an off week for the best teams is also lame.


The Super Bowl is easily the easiest championship to win among the 4 major sports in N. America.  The path to the championship game is awfully short. 

 

I'm all in favor of making it a longer, harder, more entertaining process.

 

 

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This sucks if true.  I love the playoff format the way it is now with the exception of not seeding the teams by their record (division winners should make it but not guaranteed a home game).  Six out of 16 teams is the perfect ratio as it preserves the importance of the regular season while still allowing for a playoff cinderella story.  It also rewards the two best teams in the conference with first round byes further emphasizing the importance of the regular season.  Of course the NFL will ruin it.

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11 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

I do not see how the league makes money adding one playoff game per conference and eliminating 16 (or 32) preseason games including parking, concessions and sales in shop.


they are also getting a 17 game regular season slate with elimination of that preseason game 

11 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

This scenario has been floated by MTC on NFLR for two years.  It makes sense and less preseason is a great thing.  The league and the NFLPA both win.  More $ for both sides.  I wonder if they get a second bye as a concession.  That would make players happy.

 

Kirwan and Mills made the case that the last six years as of last year the #7 wild card seed wood have a 9-7 or better record.  The division winner will never change and there is always the possibility a division winner has a worse record like Seattle several years ago.

 

Sounds like a good negotiation.


maybe expanded Rosters as well

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16 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

Can't blame them... each team only plays 16 games which is by far the lowest.  

 

Yankee stadium seats 47,000 - if they make the playoffs, they'll play a max of 11 home games.  The patriots finish with the best record and they get 2.

Ticket revenue is such a small part of the pie, I really don't think the owners care that much about that. I mean sure, they'll take the extra money.... but they make WAY more from TV.

NFL vs MLB: Revenue

Which league makes more money, NFL or MLB?

Since there are only 256 regular-season NFL games each year and 2,430 yearly MLB matchups, you’d think that the bigger overall revenue stream would go to baseball.

But it doesn’t.

Last season, the NFL made $14 billion in total revenue, which was over $900 million more than they made the season before and a $6 billion increase from 2010.

The MLB, on the other hand, made $9.46 billion in revenue last season, up 4.8% from the prior season when they made a total of $9.03 billion.

NFL teams average more revenue, as well.

NFL sponsorship revenue reached $1.32 billion in the 2017-18 season, with beer, trucks and fast food being among the largest spenders.

MLB sponsorship revenue was $892 million in the 2017 season, which was a 7.9 percent increase from the previous year when they made $827 million.

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In a league where player safety is harped I don't understand how NFL even considers a bye week a team. Teams in other conferences and divisions don't play the same team and the schedule can be skewed.  For a sport as physically demanding as football as, that extra week off is huge to let players rest.  Having the home field advantage throughout the playoffs should be adequate reward for having best record. 

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34 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said:

In a league where player safety is harped I don't understand how NFL even considers a bye week a team. Teams in other conferences and divisions don't play the same team and the schedule can be skewed.  For a sport as physically demanding as football as, that extra week off is huge to let players rest.  Having the home field advantage throughout the playoffs should be adequate reward for having best record. 


I think eventually they go to 16 team playoff slate once expansion occurs and they move to an 18 game regular season. Too much to try and bit off this CBA so instead add another team in each conference and a 17 game slate. 

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15 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I think they should just do away with divisions all together. Just do a 16 team afc 16 team nfc. You play everyone in your own conference once so every tiebreaker can go head to head and then if they go 17 game season, you play 2 out of conference games every year that go on rotation. Then the playoffs the top seed gets a bye and plays the winner of that 4vs5 game

I agree get rid of divisions. But no way just play your own conference.That would be awful. Need more out of conference games not less.

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Eliminating the bye for the #2 seed will probably result in a lot more #1 seeds making the Super Bowl.

 

Regardless, here's what I would do:

 

Division winners and WCs are decided same as today, and those are your 7 teams 

#1 seed gets bye and home field

Seeding for the rest of the playoff field is decided by record.

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 Makes it hard to perceive the sport in any serious way when nearly half the league goes to the playoffs. What’s next, 16 teams make the playoffs, what’s next after that, 20 teams make the playoffs. Everyone gets a star ️ I guess it’s a way to get the Bills into the post season most every year....

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22 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

14 teams in the playoffs? Lame! But it's all about money.

 

That playoff seeding example is awful. Only the #1 seed gets the bye?

 

Might as well go for 16 and have a true 8 team double ladder.

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