What Are Your Political Leanings?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

On 11/13/2019 at 1:25 PM, Tiberius said:

The House Impeachmrnt is led by moderate Democrats 

 

 

...I think you finally impugned your credibility.......oh wait....SMH..........cant even spell impeachment........

15 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  He has to do this so he can sleep at night.  HIs mom says he has less oopsies with his undies that way.

 

 

 

...does she have security cameras in the basement for his protection?....good Lord I hope so......

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...I think you finally impugned your credibility.......oh wait....SMH..........cant even spell impeachment........

 

 

 

...does she have security cameras in the basement for his protection?....good Lord I hope so......

For her protection.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, I am the egg man said:

You post beyond obsessively in the PPP section and judge who's rational in here ?

 

You're a funny one.

That does not change the fact you are an idiot  

43 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...I think you finally impugned your credibility.......oh wait....SMH..........cant even spell impeachment........

 

 

 

...does she have security cameras in the basement for his protection?....good Lord I hope so......

Oh no! I’ve lost credibility with a Trumpbot! That’s like saying the KKK doesn’t trust my opinion. SMH ?‍♂️ 

1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  He has to do this so he can sleep at night.  HIs mom says he has less oopsies with his undies that way.

She was just telling you that. You kept bothering her for more ooopies of mine to feed upon. Yummy, you say 

[US Egg]

42 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

That does not change the fact you are an idiot

Name calling.

 

The desperate act of a child, or you, to feel better about themselves.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I would agree.  Except I haven't flipped.  It's not up to me to decide "who needs assistance." I don't hate like that.  I consider that none of my business.

 

Fiscally more conservative... But indifferent to money.  Easiest thing in the world to make or let go of.  That's most certainly NOT the source of my attachment.  Money, taxes, etc... Sorry if I believe it shouldn't be your's either.  It's the root of all evil.  I am pro-Christian... But not over the top whacked out religiously.

You're like The Riddler. On the one hand, it's none of you business who needs what.  On the other you are very judgy on people's relationship with money. That must be the socialist part of you? 

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You're like The Riddler. On the one hand, it's none of you business who needs what.  On the other you are very judgy on people's relationship with money. That must be the socialist part of you? 

Yes. Because avarice is a sin. Giving isn't.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes. Because avarice is a sin. Giving isn't.

Update..you're like the Riddler with multiple person disorder. 

 

Everyone else business is not your business, you're judgy on other people's philosophy on their money and while a Christian, you dont wnat to be super Christian-judgy except when it comes to Matthew 6:24. 

[dubs]

How is healthcare a “right”?

 

Is in the Constitution?

 

how do you make the labor of another person a right? 
 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Update..you're like the Riddler with multiple person disorder. 

 

Everyone else business is not your business, you're judgy on other people's philosophy on their money and while a Christian, you dont wnat to be super Christian-judgy except when it comes to Matthew 6:24. 

No.  Ecclesiastes 5:10-11, judges:

 

"10 Whoever loves money never has enough;
    whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income.
    This too is meaningless.

11 As goods increase,
    so do those who consume them.
And what benefit are they to the owners
    except to feast their eyes on them"

[njbuff]

I never cared for politics until my family shoved their Trump hatred down my throat.

 

I saw firsthand and, now, all over the place that TDS is a very real thing.

 

Otherwise, I hold no political party and really don’t care about politics.

 

All I know is that no matter who the friggin President is, I still have to work.

 

And that’s the bottom line cause........... never mind.

[ExiledInIllinois]

14 minutes ago, dubs said:

How is healthcare a “right”?

 

Is in the Constitution?

 

how do you make the labor of another person a right? 
 

 

Healthcare promotes the general welfare of the country.

 

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

 

 Healthcare promotes the general of the country.

 

How do you make the labor of another a right?  You gotta be kidding, right? Providing for common defense is forced labor.  So is promoting general welfare.

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Healthcare promotes the general welfare of the country.

 

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

 

 Healthcare promotes the general of the country.

 

 

No, it doesn't.

 

Hell, healthcare didn't even exist when the Constitution was written.  Was there no general welfare before health care was invented?

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I never cared for politics until my family shoved their Trump hatred down my throat.

 

I saw firsthand and, now, all over the place that TDS is a very real thing.

 

Otherwise, I hold no political party and really don’t care about politics.

 

All I know is that no matter who the friggin President is, I still have to work.

 

And that’s the bottom line cause........... never mind.

At least you're living up to your American birthright as having oppositional disorder.  Fight tyranny!  Even if it's your family's.  We're all rebels.

[dubs]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Healthcare promotes the general welfare of the country.

 

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

 

 Healthcare promotes the general of the country.

 

How do you make the labor of another a right?  You gotta be kidding, right? Providing for common defense is forced labor.  So is promoting general welfare.

Ah...the old communist catch all “general welfare”!

 

So, in your opinion, what doesn’t fall under “general welfare”

 

also, we don’t have a “forced labor” military in this country. And besides, the constitution specifically lays out national defense in the constitution. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

6 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, it doesn't.

 

Hell, healthcare didn't even exist when the Constitution was written.  Was there no general welfare before health care was invented?

What are you an idiot?  Of course healthcare existed. 

 

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/

 

Washington was obsessed with earlt death:

 

"To try to prevent an early death, Washington exercised, ate and drank moderately, attempted to get enough sleep, and avoided tobacco. Even with these healthy habits, Washington was afflicted with a number of serious illness, but he did live to be 67."

 

It was Martha:

 

"As the primary caregiver, women were usually knowledgeable in some 18th-century medicine from creating rubs and herbal remedies to delivering babies. There were also a number of common treatments often performed without doctors, including bloodletting, purging, blistering, and sweating."

 

1 minute ago, dubs said:

Ah...the old communist catch all “general welfare”!

 

So, in your opinion, what doesn’t fall under “general welfare”

 

also, we don’t have a “forced labor” military in this country. And besides, the constitution specifically lays out national defense in the constitution. 

Nothing... Especially something as important as 21st Century Medicine.

Edited November 15, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois

[dubs]

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

What are you an idiot?  Of course healthcare existed. 

 

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/

 

Washington was obsessed with earlt death:

 

"To try to prevent an early death, Washington exercised, ate and drank moderately, attempted to get enough sleep, and avoided tobacco.2 Even with these healthy habits, Washington was afflicted with a number of serious illness, but he did live to be 67."

 

It was Martha:

 

"As the primary caregiver, women were usually knowledgeable in some 18th-century medicine from creating rubs and herbal remedies to delivering babies. There were also a number of common treatments often performed without doctors, including bloodletting, purging, blistering, and sweating."

then why didn’t he put that in the constitution?  ? 

[DC Tom]

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

What are you an idiot?  Of course healthcare existed. 

 

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/

 

Washington was obsessed with earlt death:

 

"To try to prevent an early death, Washington exercised, ate and drank moderately, attempted to get enough sleep, and avoided tobacco.2 Even with these healthy habits, Washington was afflicted with a number of serious illness, but he did live to be 67."

 

It was Martha:

 

"As the primary caregiver, women were usually knowledgeable in some 18th-century medicine from creating rubs and herbal remedies to delivering babies. There were also a number of common treatments often performed without doctors, including bloodletting, purging, blistering, and sweating."

 

Bloodletting?

 

Okay, I'm good with that.  Modern Americans have an inalienable right to complete, free access to bloodletting and vomiting, in order to promote the general welfare. 

[dubs]

2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

What are you an idiot?  Of course healthcare existed. 

 

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/

 

Washington was obsessed with earlt death:

 

"To try to prevent an early death, Washington exercised, ate and drank moderately, attempted to get enough sleep, and avoided tobacco. Even with these healthy habits, Washington was afflicted with a number of serious illness, but he did live to be 67."

 

It was Martha:

 

"As the primary caregiver, women were usually knowledgeable in some 18th-century medicine from creating rubs and herbal remedies to delivering babies. There were also a number of common treatments often performed without doctors, including bloodletting, purging, blistering, and sweating."

 

Nothing... Especially something as important as 21st Century Medicine.

nothing doesn’t fall under general welfare?  So you’re saying the federal government controls everything under the constitution. Solid position there!!  

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, dubs said:

then why didn’t he put that in the constitution?  ? 

Times change.  The Constitution is a living, breathing document.

 

Because idiots like you would have hated, fought.  Why was slavery issue kicked down the road 70 years?

[DC Tom]

Just now, dubs said:

nothing doesn’t fall under general welfare?  So you’re saying the federal government controls everything under the constitution. Solid position there!!  

 

I think what he's saying is that Americans, in order to promote the general welfare, have an inalienable right to free power steering and GFI outlets near bathtubs.

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

Times change.  The Constitution is a living, breathing document.

 

 

Really?  Because I thought the Second Amendment only applied to muzzle-loading, single-shoot smoothbore muskets?

 

So, again...I'm perfectly fine with free bloodletting for everyone...

[dubs]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Times change.  The Constitution is a living, breathing document.

 

Because idiots like you would have hated, fought.  Why was slavery issue kicked down the road 70 years?

you’re like a communist talking point warp speed. In one page you managed to get in “general welfare”, “living breathing document” and “slavery”!  Bravo!!!  ? 

 

I think this is what they referred to in Spaceballs as Ludicrous Speed!

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, dubs said:

nothing doesn’t fall under general welfare?  So you’re saying the federal government controls everything under the constitution. Solid position there!!  

Proper English please.  I responded to:

 

"...what doesn’t fall under “general welfare."

 

Nothing.  Coupled with "what doesn't"... Means "everything" Dr. Spock.

 

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Proper English please.  I responded to:

 

"...what doesn’t fall under “general welfare."

 

Nothing.  Coupled with "what doesn't"... Means "everything" Dr. Spock.

 

 

Free rechargeable AAA batteries for all!  Falls under the "general welfare" clause...

[dubs]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Proper English please.  I responded to:

 

"...what doesn’t fall under “general welfare."

 

Nothing.  Coupled with "what doesn't"... Means "everything" Dr. Spock.

 

so everything falls under that statement according to you?  They lay out those words in the preamble and then actually enumerate the powers of the federal government, which doesn’t include Healthcare or Retirement or Housing or Schooling or anything like that. Yet you find that somewhere in those two words?

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Free rechargeable AAA batteries for all!  Falls under the "general welfare" clause...

My pacemakers takes CR44s. So does my laser sight on my National Guard issued weapon.

[DC Tom]

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

My pacemakers takes CR44s. So does my laser sight on my National Guard issued weapon.

 

How about the trigger for your nuclear weapons?

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

How about the trigger for your nuclear weapons?

That too.  Hate when the CMOS battery goes dead.

[Koko78]

28 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Really?  Because I thought the Second Amendment only applied to muzzle-loading, single-shoot smoothbore muskets?

 

Not just that: Freedom of the press only applies to hand-crank movable-type printing presses, and freedom of speech only applies to the spoken word.

[/dev/null]

9 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

My pacemakers takes CR44s. So does my laser sight on my National Guard issued weapon.

 

Anyone else uncomfortable by the thought of EII holding a loaded firearm?

 

[SoCal Deek]

I’ve never been a health care voter. How you pay for care doesn’t change how many people are sick or how often they get sick. My problem is that we already know that every service the federal government attempts to provide is severely degraded in quality. So the question that needs to be asked is what’s the most efficient way to keep the QUALITY of care up? The QUANTITY doesn’t change.

[KRC]

12 hours ago, DC Tom said:

Really?  Because I thought the Second Amendment only applied to muzzle-loading, single-shoot smoothbore muskets?

 

Thanks for saving me the time.

[dubs]

And another thing....

 

This is why the framers left a clear way to change the constitution, through the amendment process. If 2/3 of the house and senate and 3/4 of the states want things like Medicare for All, we can amend the constitution and give that power to the federal government. It’s not complicated. That would necessitate the power grabbers to make compelling cases to the public though, which is why they avoid this process. 
 

We don’t live in a democracy, we live in a republic. This was intentional, so that 51% of the people could not vote to take from the 49%. 
 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'm a fiscal moderate and a social conservative.

 

[TH3]

13 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, it doesn't.

 

Hell, healthcare didn't even exist when the Constitution was written.  Was there no general welfare before health care was invented?

Going down that line....let's get rid of medicare medicaid and the regulations that require employers to provide health care!

 

Think of the Freedom Baby....MAGA!!

[row_33]

treat others as i wish they'd treat me

 

realize the pendulum swings from a little left to a little right every 2 terms

 

 

[Gavin in Va Beach]

Fiscally Independent, Socially Independent. I don't like saying 'conservative' because 1) 'Conservatives' haven't conserved anything. 2) Progress isn't necessarily a bad thing. I attempt to be a pragmatist. 

 

I do generally eschew anything pertaining to socialism/leftism/progressive-ism because I think it's a destructive ideology primarily based upon feelings. The saying 'The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions' should be engraved in huge letters in both chambers of Congress.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 11/15/2019 at 11:35 AM, Gavin in Va Beach said:

Fiscally Independent, Socially Independent. I don't like saying 'conservative' because 1) 'Conservatives' haven't conserved anything. 2) Progress isn't necessarily a bad thing. I attempt to be a pragmatist. 

 

I do generally eschew anything pertaining to socialism/leftism/progressive-ism because I think it's a destructive ideology primarily based upon feelings. The saying 'The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions' should be engraved in huge letters in both chambers of Congress.

 

You're right about modern "conservatives." They HAVEN'T conserved anything.

 

They're all in bed with the same masters as the leftists.

 

Really, they all need to go.

 

[KD in CA]

On 11/15/2019 at 8:35 AM, Gavin in Va Beach said:

Fiscally Independent, Socially Independent. I don't like saying 'conservative' because 1) 'Conservatives' haven't conserved anything. 2) Progress isn't necessarily a bad thing. I attempt to be a pragmatist. 

 

I do generally eschew anything pertaining to socialism/leftism/progressive-ism because I think it's a destructive ideology primarily based upon feelings. The saying 'The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions' should be engraved in huge letters in both chambers of Congress.

 

Progress is an excellent thing.  But the vast majority of people calling themselves "progressive" haven't proposed or accomplished any type of meaningful progress in decades.

[3rdnlng]

8 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Progress is an excellent thing.  But the vast majority of people calling themselves "progressive" haven't proposed or accomplished any type of meaningful progress in decades.

Progress to them is having our own "1917" right here in America, comrade.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

9 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Progress is an excellent thing.  But the vast majority of people calling themselves "progressive" haven't proposed or accomplished any type of meaningful progress in decades.

 

...PROgressive?...seriously?....my arse....how about REgressive.....they want to undo every aspect of this country's history for "political correctness".....and lead the "World Apologist Tour" to punish the imperialistic super power.....lower this nation to "the middle of the pack or below" is their mantra.....they are THE predominating reason for the morbid decay of the moral, social and tolerance factors in this country....