Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Tesla03 said: How about plenty of times? They beat bad teams every year. all those 7-9 seasons with Jauron. the one time we came up against a team that is in similar strength than us we got smoked (Eagles) ALL of them? Those Jauron teams NEVER beat ALL the teams they SHOULD have. So again I'll ask. When's the last time this team takes care of business against lesser teams the way this one has? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: ALL of them? Those Jauron teams NEVER beat ALL the teams they SHOULD have. So again I'll ask. When's the last time this team takes care of business against lesser teams the way this one has? buddy the season isn't over yet. we haven't beat ALL the teams yet either. let's wait until the season is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Tesla03 said: buddy the season isn't over yet. we haven't beat ALL the teams yet either. let's wait until the season is finished. Lame. You enjoy being miserable with winning, guy. I refuse. Life's too short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lame. You enjoy being miserable with winning, guy. I refuse. Life's too short. So any fan who brings up valid criticism = miserable with winning. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Tesla03 said: So any fan who brings up valid criticism = miserable with winning. nice Problem: it's NOT a valid criticism. See, Tesla, you can only play the teams on your schedule and hopefully beat them. Which the Bills have in 6 out of 8 attempts so far. Doesn't matter if it's by 1, 21, 41. This ain't college football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Look harder. If the Cheats** lose tonight we are 1 game behind and we play them again. There are 8 games to go. Anything can happen. I have the Pats losing tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, CommonCents said: I have the Pats losing tonight. nope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Hey hey hey now, I know this is sarcasm, Poke. You just gotta understand there's a lot of dim bulbs in the Bills fanbase. They can't help themselves. It's intellectual cowardice, and it's attributing the identity of PAST teams with this one. And people need to get over it. How dare you come at me with multi-syllabic words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: In 1993, I was a 20 year old specialist in the US Army. Today I'm 46 years old. I will never EVER complain about this team this season because they're winning. Get on board, people, or get the hell out of the way. in case someone hasn’t posted this after page 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I have the Pats losing tonight. Please. It'd be my new favorite porn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: How dare you come at me with multi-syllabic words! Up your vocabulary game, bro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: nope. Let’s see. Been on fire for three weeks. I’m not a LJ fan but I think the Pats are vulnerable. I also factor in that a Ravens win is good for the league and gives plenty of other teams hope. The league loves that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Please. It'd be my new favorite porn Replace Brazilian Fart Porn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, TH3 said: Replace Brazilian Fart Porn? I'm listening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrediggerPoke Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 If this team had Nathan Peterman it would be 8-0 and easy super bowl favorites. This Josh Allen experiment is an utter failure; it is clear that all the draft pundits were right and the Bills should have taken Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen has much better college stats too. Allen fumbled the ball today and couldn’t throw for 200 yards versus the lowly Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Problem: it's NOT a valid criticism. See, Tesla, you can only play the teams on your schedule and hopefully beat them. Which the Bills have in 6 out of 8 attempts so far. Doesn't matter if it's by 1, 21, 41. This ain't college football. I mean it kinda does matter when we start playing more talented teams on the backend of our schedule. starting with the Browns next weekend Edited November 3, 2019 by Tesla03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, Tesla03 said: I mean it kinda does matter when we start playing more talented teams on the backend of our schedule. starting with the Browns next weekend The Browns. Really. OK, guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: I have the Pats losing tonight. let's also not forget.that the Cheats** have to play the Chiefs probably with Mahommes back whereas we play the Broncos. Edited November 4, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tesla03 said: I mean it kinda does matter when we start playing more talented teams on the backend of our schedule. starting with the Browns next weekend You mean the 2-6 Browns who just lost to the 2-5 Broncos who were starting a QB who has never been on an NFL field previously? I understand the Bills are not the best ever but our must not watch much football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tesla03 said: I mean it kinda does matter when we start playing more talented teams on the backend of our schedule. starting with the Browns next weekend This post aged well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tesla03 said: I mean it kinda does matter when we start playing more talented teams on the backend of our schedule. starting with the Browns next weekend Browns are more talented, but man they look a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Browns are more talented, but man they look a mess. And the mess starts with tiger boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: I do have beef with Daboll. He's trying to hide our QB. DO NOT DO THAT. They are but it's for his own good, now if they'd only stop letting him do designed QB runs that he's fumbling on every game that would be most awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Fully on board and happy, @Joe in Winslow. Of course, I'm an optimistic kind of guy. 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: They are but it's for his own good, now if they'd only stop letting him do designed QB runs that he's fumbling on every game that would be most awesome. No, it's not. In the long run, he and the team are both better off with gameplans that don't inhibit his growth. Edited November 4, 2019 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: I do have beef with Daboll. He's trying to hide our QB. DO NOT DO THAT. I could not disagree more. Josh is a gamer, but he is also inaccurate at times and left to his own devices,a turn over machine. we're trying to win. Would be dumb to waste a really good D and favorable schedule so Josh can throw the ball all over yard just to see what he's got. I hope to see more games like today from our offense resulting in more wins. 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: nope. 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: This post aged well. As did yours LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Fully on board and happy, @Joe in Winslow. Of course, I'm an optimistic kind of guy. No, it's not. In the long run, he and the team are both better off with gameplans that don't inhibit his growth. Agree to disagree Billsfan1959, guys like Big Ben, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford and the list goes on, many guys game manage until things just start to sink in, usually by year 3. He's now got more TD passes than INT which is a real positive but the fumbles now need to stop. I don't have any problem with it since Allen comes from a small school where he had to do everything himself and he still has that mentality, you can see it on Sundays. Once he understands that he is more of a detriment to the team with that mentality than actually helping, that's when I think the switch turns and you can tell he isn't there yet, at least that's what I feel like I'm seeing from him. These are just my own opinions but I realize you may have your own as well and that's cool also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I could not disagree more. Josh is a gamer, but he is also inaccurate at times and left to his own devices,a turn over machine. we're trying to win. Would be dumb to waste a really good D and favorable schedule so Josh can throw the ball all over yard just to see what he's got. I hope to see more games like today from our offense resulting in more wins. As did yours LOL I'll gladly take the hit on that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Agree to disagree Billsfan1959, guys like Big Ben, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford and the list goes on, many guys game manage until things just start to sink in, usually by year 3. He's now got more TD passes than INT which is a real positive but the fumbles now need to stop. I don't have any problem with it since Allen comes from a small school where he had to do everything himself and he still has that mentality, you can see it on Sundays. Once he understands that he is more of a detriment to the team with that mentality than actually helping, that's when I think the switch turns and you can tell he isn't there yet, at least that's what I feel like I'm seeing from him. These are just my own opinions but I realize you may have your own as well and that's cool also. We can agree to disagree, my friend. I don't think Allen needs to throw it 40+ times a game and I don't believe you design game plans that increase the risk of mistakes and turnovers for a young QB. However, when that young QB has shown a strength in a certain area, then I think you design gameplans that maximize that strength. Right now, Allen' weaknesses in regard to production, mistakes, and turnovers are the long ball and longer developing pass plays. His strength, which was a weakness last year, is his passing game within 20 yards of the LOS. He is one of the highest rated passers in that area.They can minimize risk while still maximizing growth and production. I think they did that in the first 22 plays (3 drives) of the game. They had a good run to pass ratio, let him pass on early downs, and kept to his strengths: The first 22 plays (1st 3 drives): 13 runs, 9 passes (3 scoring drives) 3 passes on 1st down Avg yards to go per pass att (excluding 1st down throws): 6.3 yds Overall 7 - 10 for 100 yrds (22 overall offensive plays). After that, they limited him and put him in passing situations that limited production and increased risk (although Allen avoided any mistakes / turnovers): The last 33 plays (5 drives): 23 runs, 10 passes (1 scoring drive) Didn't try a pass on 1st and 10 until their last drive with 5 minutes left in the game: Avg yards to go per pass att (excluding 1st down throws): 12.14 yds 7 - 10 for 60 yards (33 overall offensive plays). For the game: Passes over 25 yards: 0-3 Passes under 25 yards: 14-17 for 160 yds In my opinion, the gameplan today in the 1st 22 plays was playing to Allen's strengths and he responded. The gameplan after that (the last 33 plays) did nothing to help him grow, or to take advantage of the areas in which he is actually doing well this year. I don't think it helped him or the team. I appreciate your post and your perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 14 hours ago, OrediggerPoke said: If this team had Nathan Peterman it would be 8-0 and easy super bowl favorites. This Josh Allen experiment is an utter failure; it is clear that all the draft pundits were right and the Bills should have taken Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen has much better college stats too. Allen fumbled the ball today and couldn’t throw for 200 yards versus the lowly Redskins. These peterman people still exist? Or is this sarcasm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrediggerPoke Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: These peterman people still exist? Or is this sarcasm ? The fact that you have to ask should tell you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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