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The pirouette. What are the NFL stats on onsides kicks?

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how w often does a team score on an on side kick?
 

 

 

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The league changed the rules a year or two ago that made it much, much more difficult to recover an onsides, mostly by outlawing a team to load up on one side. And then not allowing the kicking team to get a running start. 

 

The funny thing about the Hyde play, which was awesome, was that is exactly how you want an onsides kick to be. Maybe a mite long but that kick is in the 90 percentile I would imagine considering how you would want it kicked. Hyde just made an extraordinary play. 

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question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?

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No bloody idea, but will be watching to find out

 

Go Bills!!!

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2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?

Kneeling it out would have avoided risk of injuries on the following plays.

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1 minute ago, BuffAlone said:

question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?


Taking a knee would’ve been smarter.  But I could have sworn that in the past, you couldn’t advance an onsides kick recovery?

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Just now, Doc said:


Taking a knee would’ve been smarter.  But I could have sworn that in the past, you couldn’t advance an onsides kick recovery?

Not sure about this but I think if the kicking team catches it on a bounce like that they can't but the receiving team can. 

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5 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?

Go for the score!!!

 

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3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Not sure about this but I think if the kicking team catches it on a bounce like that they can't but the receiving team can. 


I wonder if they changed it because I could have sworn that happened to the Bills one time and they brought the ball back to where he recovered it.

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5 minutes ago, Doc said:


I wonder if they changed it because I could have sworn that happened to the Bills one time and they brought the ball back to where he recovered it.


typically it turns into a scrum and everyone gets tangled up.  
 

the pirouette kept him up and perfectly placed landing gave him a great running lane. 

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11 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Not sure about this but I think if the kicking team catches it on a bounce like that they can't but the receiving team can. 


 

correct

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6 minutes ago, Doc said:


I wonder if they changed it because I could have sworn that happened to the Bills one time and they brought the ball back to where he recovered it.

Since the above post shows the stats it looks like it's always been the rule. Just doesn't happen much. I honestly don't know though. No one seems to think there was anything unusual when he did it though. 

 

And obviously it is a "kick return" like any other. 

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18 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?

 

I'd have gone down and I think he should have. But no big deal. Game was done in any event. 

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9 minutes ago, Doc said:


I wonder if they changed it because I could have sworn that happened to the Bills one time and they brought the ball back to where he recovered it.


No rule change - the recovering team can advance and score - has happened 11 times since the 70’s.

 

The Kicking team can not advance it - if they recover it - it is down where it is recovered.

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd have gone down and I think he should have. But no big deal. Game was done in any event. 

so for the sake of getting our ST's unit a TD, it was worth it

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Take the points and the win. What if something happens on the ensuing kneel-down or run?

 

Don't play that game. Just score the TD. I guess he could've wasted time by running sideways a little more?

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8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

The #Bills are the only team with more than one onside kick return TD since the merger, and now they have 3:

-Micah Hyde, Today
-Henry Jones, 12/19/99 at Arizona
-Greg Jones, 11/1/70 at Boston (they renamed themselves New England the following season)
 


 

 

3 times?  Wow. 

We own this !!!!!

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2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Take the points and the win. What if something happens on the ensuing kneel-down or run?

Don't play that game. Just score the TD. I guess he could've wasted time by running sideways a little more?

 

there is nothing more sure than victory formation

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26 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

question...Tasker kept saying "go down.go down". but he ran it back to go up 10. with 1:39 on the clock, no timeouts for Dolphins.would you have ran it back? or taken a knee?


more fun to run but the right play to maximize odds of winning is to get down. 

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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:


more fun to run but the right play to maximize odds of winning is to get down. 

I’d agree, but that was Hyde’s fifth return for a TD. Can’t argue with him seeing a gap for a big return. It’s not like he hasn’t done it before. 🤷‍♂️

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Just rewatched this, and hadn't realized the block Poyer put on his guy.  Poyer is 4th man in from the sideline on the front line....earholes his guy just as Hyde goes up for the ball, clearing the way for the catch and run.  Sweet!!

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I’d agree, but that was Hyde’s fifth return for a TD. Can’t argue with him seeing a gap for a big return. It’s not like he hasn’t done it before. 🤷‍♂️


the issue isn’t risk of tackle it’s that you give the ball back with time on the clock. 
 

it’s all a long shot so picking nits but Miami is a lot less likely to score if they never touch the ball. Odds are they don’t score get the onside and score again either though.

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd have gone down and I think he should have. But no big deal. Game was done in any event. 


Yup. My bigger curiousity is whether our special teams coordinator gave the instruction pre play or not. While it wouldn’t much matter today, it’s the type of attention to detail I’d like to see, especially from a coordinator that deals with rotating casts of character like special teams 

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18 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

 

there is nothing more sure than victory formation

sure points are more sure

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45 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

Kneeling it out would have avoided risk of injuries on the following plays.

Really? You’re sayin stop trying to score while the game is still being played? There is always risk of injury in every single practice, there always  is risk of injury in every single play, Hell There is always risk of injury every time you walk out the front door, this is football, a gladiator sport, of freakin course there is risk of injury, sounds like a stop preseason games, billy could hurt himself lament. What’s happening to football fans??

 

Go Bills!!!

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