CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Correct. We rather take the intentional grounding over the INT. That INT probably happened because of the earlier IG call. The real culprit is Allen trying to make plays out of nothing when plays are blown up. Instead of going down he back pedals 10-15 yards to try to make a play. Unless we can coach that out of him, the end result of those plays will be a throw away at best with the occasional miracle completion for a first down. Yeah that clearly seems to be the root cause of nearly all of his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: Easy to say with the benefit of knowing the outcome. I love Josh, but people would be killing him right now if it wasn’t for the final drive. People are going to kill him regardless. And it is easy to say because it’s true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: Easy to say with the benefit of knowing the outcome. I love Josh, but people would be killing him right now if it wasn’t for the final drive. But that's the point. He engineered that final drive with both his arm and legs. HE OVERCAME HIS FAILURE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Pass protection has been bad, but Allen needs to play smarter ball. Take off or throw it away, etc. How does a guy with his cannon not get the ball to the line of scrimmage btw? Just learn from the mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, billsfan1959 said: Well, the Patriots opponents, after today could be 0-9...what's your point? You think the Bills = Pats huh . Well then should be a great game next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Nothing disingenuous about it. You think 3-0 against 0-9 teams is a sign of greatness it seems,. I do not. They don't need to beat NE, nor did I say they needed to. But playing against a quality opponent will show what they are more than beating bottom feeders. You don't agree, that's fine. 1. The Jets team we played was 100 times better than the team they have fielded the last two weeks. They are playing a third string QB. And haven't had CJ Mosley. 2. Bills haven't played Miami the only team in the league playing at a historically bad level. Patriots have. 3. Bengals are not as bad as their 0-3 record. They took Seattle down to the wire just as they did us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Nothing disingenuous about it. You think 3-0 against 0-9 teams is a sign of greatness it seems,. I do not. They don't need to beat NE, nor did I say they needed to. But playing against a quality opponent will show what they are more than beating bottom feeders. You don't agree, that's fine. You aren’t wrong in calling the teams we’ve beaten “bottom feeders”, but referring to the Pats as simply “a quality opponent” underscores them immensely. They are the defending champions, look like the best team in the league, and are led by arguably the greatest QB and the greatest HC of all-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Hsker4life said: You aren’t wrong in calling the teams we’ve beaten “bottom feeders”, but referring to the Pats as simply “a quality opponent” underscores them immensely. They are the defending champions, look like the best team in the league, and are led by arguably the greatest QB and the greatest HC of all-time. I agree. Which is why that game will be a good barometer for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The O-line looked bad after Feliciano left with an injury. It was a huge difference. I heard he calls the oline plays. That might have something to do with Allen getting pressured so much in the second half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: But that's the point. He engineered that final drive with both his arm and legs. HE OVERCAME HIS FAILURE. Oh I agree. I’m on his side. I said let’s see how he responds in the game thread. But let’s not act like he would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt around here from some TBD’ers if he failed. People are just waiting in the shadows to say “I told ya so...accuracy...etc” as soon as they get an opportunity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: But that's the point. He engineered that final drive with both his arm and legs. HE OVERCAME HIS FAILURE. He is a gamer for sure. I can't imagine anyone would think otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: Oh I agree. I’m on his side. I said let’s see how he responds in the game thread. But let’s not act like he would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt around here from some TBD’ers if he failed. People are just waiting in the shadows to say “I told ya so...accuracy...etc” as soon as they get an opportunity. Dude, I know this. People here are stuck on their pre-draft evaluations and can't see what's in front of them. First it was completion %. Now that's over 60%, they move on to "buT MuH dUMb PlaYz!" It is what it is. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Nah, really just one stupid play. Allen played well aside from the interception. Even the intentional grounding call was driven by good decision-making and would go uncalled nine times out of ten. That gets called 10 out of 10 times. There wasn't anyone in the area and he didn't even get it close to the line of scimmage. He keeps rolling into pressure after he either holds it too long or just abadons a clean pocket. I'm glad he can break free from tackles, but that won't always be the case. Very mixed game imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: What is the combined record of the teams NE has beaten? Patriots blow out the bad teams. Bills squeak by them. That's the difference. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: You think the Bills = Pats huh . Well then should be a great game next week I think the Bills are a good team and certainly capabable of beating the Patriots if they do not beat themselves. You think the Patriots are Gods. Perhaps you are on the wrong message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, CodeMonkey said: He is a gamer for sure. I can't imagine anyone would think otherwise. That he is, but it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Look, I love the guy, and no one was celebrating harder than me over here at the result, but he can be a gamer and have some things we’d like to see cleaned up. It’s all part of the process, but he is doing a really good job overall. Been a fun ride so far for a change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, billsfan1959 said: I think the Bills are a good team and certainly capabable of beating the Patriots if they do not beat themselves. You think the Patriots are Gods. Perhaps you are on the wrong message board? The Bills struggled to find any type of consistency against at least 2 of the worst defenses in football right now. Their half time adjustments have been very poor as well. Those are things that can not happen against the Pats. Both teams are 3-0 against bad opponents, but only one team has years of success to look to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think the Bills are a good team and certainly capabable of beating the Patriots if they do not beat themselves. You think the Patriots are Gods. Perhaps you are on the wrong message board? Always hilarious when some think you need to be a 100% homer to be a fan of a team Any given sunday and all that. Particularly in a collision sport where one injury can completely change a game. Gods ... no. A particularly strong team at the moment, yes. Edited September 22, 2019 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: That gets called 10 out of 10 times. There wasn't anyone in the area and he didn't even get it close to the line of scimmage. He keeps rolling into pressure after he either holds it too long or just abadons a clean pocket. I'm glad he can break free from tackles, but that won't always be the case. Very mixed game imo. It's only because the ball didn't make it to the line of scrimmage. He could have thrown it away earlier but it was simply a case of the defender was on him and stopped the ball from going farther. It had nothing to do with a receiver in the area on that particular play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 it’s nice to have a team that you get the feeling of “we got this” when they walk out down by a few points in the 4th quarter, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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