3rdnlng Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Linked below is the kind of nonsense the Mullahs feed to their people. Do they think they can fool them with this crap? They are most certainly behind the attacks in the Gulf of Oman and elsewhere. Who thinks that they have any possibility of getting sanctions lifted by any other action than ditching their nuclear programs? Let's discuss. https://www.jns.org/tehran-quds-day-billboard-shows-destroyed-american-israeli-ships-reads-we-drowned-them-all/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The Bills need a poster like that featuring the rest of the AFC East! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The Bills need a poster like that featuring the rest of the AFC East! ? Certainly. The Dolphins can be the tanker, the Jets can be sinking and the Cheaters can be going down with their Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Certainly. The Dolphins can be the tanker, the Jets can be sinking and the Cheaters can be going down with their Kraft. Is that our new downtown dome stadium in the background? Looks a little too Notre Dame-ish. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The Bills need a poster like that featuring the rest of the AFC East! ? Beats a prime time game cartoon of Bills QBs going over the Falls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Linked below is the kind of nonsense the Mullahs feed to their people. Do they think they can fool them with this crap? They are most certainly behind the attacks in the Gulf of Oman and elsewhere. Who thinks that they have any possibility of getting sanctions lifted by any other action than ditching their nuclear programs? Let's discuss. Well, the Left in this country think Trump is trying to start a war with Iran for no other reason than to help get re-elected. They also supported the previous President's rewarding Iran $400 million +, and okaying their restarting of nuclear power, for peaceful purposes, of course. So I guess there's quite a lot of people in this country who Iran can fool. Edited June 15, 2019 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Well, the Left in this country think Trump is trying to start a war with Iran for no other reason than to help get re-elected. They also supported the previous President's rewarding Iran $400 million +, and okaying their restarting of nuclear power, for peaceful purposes, of course. So I guess there's quite a lot of people in this country who Iran can fool. You've got to hand it to Trump. He's taking on all of the hard issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 McCain........ Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore. https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack So, this happened to a Japanese tanker while Abe was in Tehran? https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/latest-uk-maritime-group-warns-incident-oman-sea-63680064 Edited June 15, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paulus said: Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore. https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack Not that. That's not a very credible piece of evidence. Witnesses are idiots, and he's not even a witness - he's giving a second- or third-hand report of something someone else claims to have seen. Only thing I'd trust is the formal evaluation of the ships' damage (which I won't see). You can actually tell a lot from the pattern of damage and fragments of weapon left behind (I've read such reports from WWII, even back then it was spooky what they could discern.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Not that. That's not a very credible piece of evidence. Witnesses are idiots, and he's not even a witness - he's giving a second- or third-hand report of something someone else claims to have seen. Only thing I'd trust is the formal evaluation of the ships' damage (which I won't see). You can actually tell a lot from the pattern of damage and fragments of weapon left behind (I've read such reports from WWII, even back then it was spooky what they could discern.) There are definitely a lot of issues with the story... (all sides) Pretty bold to attack a Japanese ship while the main mullah is chatting with Abe about progress in Tehran. Some Game of Thrones type of shiz. But, then to deny it and put up a billboard claiming responsibility? Idk, crazy like a fox? Regardless, Bolton has an erection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Paulus said: There are definitely a lot of issues with the story... (all sides) Pretty bold to attack a Japanese ship while the main mullah is chatting with Abe about progress in Tehran. Some Game of Thrones type of shiz. But, then to deny it and put up a billboard claiming responsibility? Idk, crazy like a fox? Regardless, Bolton has an erection. I can just picture Bolton now: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I can just picture Bolton now: The look of pure ecstasy... Also, UK AMBASSADOR now summoned ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 it's official now. https://twitter.com/zilla705/status/1140135595978702848 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) This is an (obviously) complex and fluid situation w Iran. Lots of moving pieces, lots of "teams" w varying and competing interests. I'm waiting to learn more before leaning one way or the other but there are multiple actors who'd want nothing more than to spark a shooting war between the west and Iran. Chief among those are: * individuals currently under the most legal and criminal pressure in the USIC (and western IC by extension). * The Mullahs would benefit as well, as would the IRGC. The solution to Iran is not invasion or a shock and awe type air campaign. The solution lies with its people whom the administration continues to support both officially and clandestinely. This feels very much like the death throes of the regime... But there are still enemies at home and in the west who would benefit from this kind of play. And it should be eye opening to everyone who is politically agnostic of independent how much the US media is on Iran's side in this. Blaming the US for NOT being blackmailed. Learn who our enemies truly are. They're amongst us. Edited June 16, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 16 hours ago, DC Tom said: Not that. That's not a very credible piece of evidence. Witnesses are idiots, and he's not even a witness - he's giving a second- or third-hand report of something someone else claims to have seen. Only thing I'd trust is the formal evaluation of the ships' damage (which I won't see). You can actually tell a lot from the pattern of damage and fragments of weapon left behind (I've read such reports from WWII, even back then it was spooky what they could discern.) Well, they had lots of practice doing that back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Foxx said: it's official now. https://twitter.com/zilla705/status/1140135595978702848 Really? A passport was left at the scene? That is comically convenient. Honestly, that makes me believe Iran had no part in this. Japan is not so sure, either... https://japantoday.com/category/national/japan-demands-more-u.s.-proof-that-iran-attacked-tankers Edited June 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Foxx said: it's official now. https://twitter.com/zilla705/status/1140135595978702848 ? Yeah that proves it for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) Time to dig out those ***** IRAN T-shirt’s from the early 80s? friend wore one to high school in Southern Ontario, teachers left him alone figuring he might snap if they said anything Edited June 16, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Really? A passport was left at the scene? That is comically convenient. Honestly, that makes me believe Iran had no part in this. Japan is not so sure, either... https://japantoday.com/category/national/japan-demands-more-u.s.-proof-that-iran-attacked-tankers I think the passport thing was a parody. I realize the article about the Japanese doubts was from sources and not anything official but IMO they can get bent. I have an idea. Run your own investigation. That way you don't have to trust anyone else or make accusations about the US or Israel. Are they the only other countries in the world that could have pulled that off did Japan pick them randomly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: I think the passport thing was a parody. I realize the article about the Japanese doubts was from sources and not anything official but IMO they can get bent. I have an idea. Run your own investigation. That way you don't have to trust anyone else or make accusations about the US or Israel. Are they the only other countries in the world that could have pulled that off did Japan pick them randomly. Well, Japanese PM Abe was in Tehran and the topic was peace with the US/Iran relationship, when the Japanese ships were attacked. You do have a point about Israel, but it is undeniable they have an interest in the region and have means, motive, and oppertunity to use tactics to deter peace between other middle east countries and the US. I myself wonder if this is related to China/Russia in any way. Seems like a stretch, but China is so much more of a player than the media and eggheads will admit, and Russia hasn't really been talked about here. Idk, they're always a player on the board. Happy the passport thing was a gag. *I am apparently overworked and have zero tolerance for others showing even an ounce of being human, let alone sarcasm. Have you ever dreaded work on Monday right after getting home on a Friday? Edited June 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The first casualty of war is the truth. The Taliban claimed an attack on U.S. forces. Pompeo blamed Iran ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../taliban-claimed-an-attack-us-forces-pompeo-blamed... 15 hours ago - Secretary of State Mike Pompeo included the May 31 bombing of a U.S. convoy in Kabulon a list of recent attacks carried out by Iran or its ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 More evidence of why a Green new deal is necessary. Big oil gets a giant subsidy from military protection. That's our taxes at work for big oil to burn up the planet. An oil war would really make a green new deal seem necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I think the Iranian leadership is willing to get their asses kicked by a foreign power if it means they get to stay in power. The West becomes that unifying, faceless enemy. Never rule out the Saudis because they have the most to gain from Iran being knocked down a peg. I personally think they manipulated the chess pieces for 9/11 and the Libyan and Syrian boondoggles. Never rule out the Israelis because they have the most to gain after the Saudis, especially if it gives them the green light to bomb the nuclear sites and take the gloves off against all their proxy groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, dpberr said: I think the Iranian leadership is willing to get their asses kicked by a foreign power if it means they get to stay in power. The West becomes that unifying, faceless enemy. Never rule out the Saudis because they have the most to gain from Iran being knocked down a peg. I personally think they manipulated the chess pieces for 9/11 and the Libyan and Syrian boondoggles. Never rule out the Israelis because they have the most to gain after the Saudis, especially if it gives them the green light to bomb the nuclear sites and take the gloves off against all their proxy groups. Do you see any major interest for the US in this?? I don't, aside from oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: More evidence of why a Green new deal is necessary. Big oil gets a giant subsidy from military protection. That's our taxes at work for big oil to burn up the planet. An oil war would really make a green new deal seem necessary And yet physics and economics render it futile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Do you see any major interest for the US in this?? I don't, aside from oil It's obvious that you don't have a ***** clue. We don't need their oil. As the world's one super power (at least for a while) were looking to promote stability. Iran is the world's bad guy. They finance terrorism and have threatened the annihilation of Israel and The Great Satan. As long as we don't get another pusssy like Obama in the WH then Iran is not going to get nuclear weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: It's obvious that you don't have a ***** clue. We don't need their oil. As the world's one super power (at least for a while) were looking to promote stability. Iran is the world's bad guy. They finance terrorism and have threatened the annihilation of Israel and The Great Satan. As long as we don't get another pusssy like Obama in the WH then Iran is not going to get nuclear weapons. Lol, did you see they are enriching uranium again. Good job Trump. Obama literally got them to stop and incompetent Trump gets them moving towards nukes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Lol, did you see they are enriching uranium again. Good job Trump. Obama literally got them to stop and incompetent Trump gets them moving towards nukes again. Your reading comprehension is zilch. Iran has come out and claimed that within 10 days they will have reached the limits of their allowed stockpile of uranium material. Looks like they've been enrichening it all along, as they were allowed to under the pusssy Obama deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-iran-says-not-negotiate-164700758.html So Iran is demanding that we all allow them to export 700,000-1.5 million barrels per day of oil, to be paid for in cash, and then maybe they'll talk to us about saving the nuclear deal, with no discussion to be had of their missile program... It's like they've gone full gator. Edited August 25, 2019 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Koko78 said: https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-iran-says-not-negotiate-164700758.html So Iran is demanding that we all allow them to export 700,000-1.5 million barrels per day of oil, to be paid for in cash, and then maybe they'll talk to us about saving the nuclear deal, with no discussion to be had of their missile program... It's like they've gone full gator. ...I'm woefully confused....didn't Obama send them a hundred billion because they're our friends?...did I miss the memo?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm woefully confused....didn't Obama send them a hundred billion because they're our friends?...did I miss the memo?.... Actually he sent them 1.8 billion in cash on pallets and released about 150 billion of funds that we had frozen nearly 40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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