No Women's World Cup thread?

[May Day 10]

I get scoring in a point differential system in game 1....  but to act like it is the miracle on ice and to look like clowns....  bad look.  Businesslike and professional.  Run up the score.  Explain later that you leave nothing to chance. ..  complaints are 1% what they are now.

[Ol Dirty B]

6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I get scoring in a point differential system in game 1....  but to act like it is the miracle on ice and to look like clowns....  bad look.  Businesslike and professional.  Run up the score.  Explain later that you leave nothing to chance. ..  complaints are 1% what they are now.

 

I disagreed with you in my Toronto thread and called you a clown. Not that it matters, but I like to own up when I'm wrong.

 

You're completely right and this is absolutely the mindset you play with. I'm all for celebrating, I don't care. I don't mind running up the score.

 

The over the top celebrations after 9 goals is ridiculous and classless. Does anyone think Thailand's FA invests much in women's soccer? Those women probably work another job. I'm sure they don't mind the celebrations, it's just not appealing to me.

 

I'd just rather the protesters have some semblance of awareness.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[Boca BIlls]

16 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Of course you play the full game and score at every opportunity, but at a certain point the celebrations are ridiculous.

 

I'm usually pro celebrate, if you dont want them to celebrate stop them. But the Thailand stuff was out of control. I believe Germany beat Iran or some other bad soccer team like 8 or 10 nothing. They had no one on the field doing what Rapinoe did.

 

Of course their aren't as many people in the world as douchey as Rapinoe.

Nope, you celebrate every goal you make. On the big stage every goal is something special.

21 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

You just don't know what you are talking about.

[Ol Dirty B]

1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said:

Nope, you celebrate every goal you make. On the big stage every goal is something special.

You just don't know what you are talking about.

 

No, you don't. Rapinoe had no reason to do what she did. If she set some record I'd get it.

 

She's classless. How much footy do you watch? 1 of 13 is hardly special. 

[Boca BIlls]

18 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I get scoring in a point differential system in game 1....  but to act like it is the miracle on ice and to look like clowns....  bad look.  Businesslike and professional.  Run up the score.  Explain later that you leave nothing to chance. ..  complaints are 1% what they are now.

Celebrate every goal don't worry about what some PoS people that can't play think.

 

We live in a world of ***** and people that just want to complain about *****.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Boca BIlls

[May Day 10]

Ok, im "garbage" i guess, lol.  You "win"

[Boca BIlls]

Pretty soon people will be getting mad if a Golfer beats everyone by too many shot.

[Ol Dirty B]

2 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Pretty soon people will be getting mad if a Golfer beats everyone by too many shot.

 

That isn't at all what people are complaining about. You really are missing the point.

[Boca BIlls]

1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

That isn't at all what people are complaining about. You really are missing the point.

Celebrate every goal, b.c you never know when it could be your last.

 

Imagine today if Tiger celebrated his Birdy on 18 even though he was up by 17 shots to the next guy. OMG you guys would go ballistic.

 

Edited June 13, 2019 by Boca BIlls

[Ol Dirty B]

Just now, Boca BIlls said:

Celebrate every goal, b.c you never know when it could be your last.

 

 

It could also be how you're remembered.

 

That's probably more important. Scoring a goal the 9th goal in a 13-0 game. If it was her last, she'd be remembered more for the awful celebration.

[Boca BIlls]

1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

It could also be how you're remembered.

 

That's probably more important. Scoring a goal the 9th goal in a 13-0 game. If it was her last, she'd be remembered more for the awful celebration.

And who gives a ***** what some nobodies think. They don't play the games, they don't understand.

 

You know what she will remember, kicking Thailand's ass.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Boca BIlls

[plenzmd1]

1 hour ago, bbb said:

 

 

This is the crap I hate.  All this stuff has been said about men forever, and if it get said about a woman, it's because they're a woman!

 

Bat flips, touchdown celebrations outlawed, etc.  

 

I remember being maybe 9 years old at the Rockpile and wondering why the Bills fans hate Hank Stram.  Well, it was because he ran up the score last time with an unnecessary TD at the end of the game..............Sportsmanship has been an issue since I can remember. 

 

 

Why do people with causes defeat their causes by being disingenuous.  Why would I pay attention to Abby Wambach again? 

you be dead on correct! There is zero reason to celbrate up 7-0, let alone 12-0..classless plain and simple..man, woman, child..have some freaking class

15 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

And who gives a ***** what some nobodies think. They don't play the games, they don't understand.

 

You know what she will remember, kicking Thailand's ass.

umm, no. Her memory now will be what a tool she was and how classless they were. No matter what happens from here on out, this will now always be a part of the USNWT World Cup..as it should be

[Boca BIlls]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

you be dead on correct! There is zero reason to celbrate up 7-0, let alone 12-0..classless plain and simple..man, woman, child..have some freaking class

umm, no. Her memory now will be what a tool she was and how classless they were. No matter what happens from here on out, this will now always be a part of the USNWT World Cup..as it should be

Nope she will remember the win and not give a ***** about people crying about stupid *****.

This news will be forgotten soon enough. You people don't realize your ADD when it comes to complaining about *****.

[plenzmd1]

Just now, Boca BIlls said:

Nope she will remember the win and not give a ***** about people crying about stupid *****.

That win means zero to them..it was a given. Thailand stood no chance.

 

Be like saying Duke players remember beating Elon in the first round of the tourney and celebrating over the top at the end for the basket that put them up 40. Its not the score, its the celebration people are killing them for, rightly so.

[Ol Dirty B]

27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

That win means zero to them..it was a given. Thailand stood no chance.

 

Be like saying Duke players remember beating Elon in the first round of the tourney and celebrating over the top at the end for the basket that put them up 40. Its not the score, its the celebration people are killing them for, rightly so.

 

The guy has no clue what he is talking about. It's a lost cause. 

32 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Nope she will remember the win and not give a ***** about people crying about stupid *****.

This news will be forgotten soon enough. You people don't realize your ADD when it comes to complaining about *****.

 

It won't be forgotten because others actually watch the sport more than once every few years.

[PromoTheRobot]

13 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

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  Abby Wambach

   

  @AbbyWambach

   

Really respecting the game and what you’ve worked for is to do your best at ALL times. This is a call to

@FIFAcom

to do more and give more resources for some of these countries. It’s the World Cup folks. Would you say this about the men? Didn’t think so.

 

Abby Wambach

@AbbyWambach

For all that have issue with many goals: for some players this is there first World Cup goal, and they should be excited. Imagine it being you out there.This is your dream of playing and then scoring in a World Cup. Celebrate.Would you tell a men’s team to not score or celebrate?

 

Yes....I think most people would. Quit making everything about men vs. women.

 

Agree totally. Really shocked at how quickly the discussion about sportsmanship turns to gender. Seriously, what does that have to do with this? It's a d**k move if you have one or not. I wonder how many soccer parents cheering the USWNT for this would like their kids being in the receiving end of a beatdown with celebrations?

[May Day 10]

making this a gender bias issue is incredibly stupid.

 

 

And scoring the amount of goals is a separate issue of the poor way they handled themselves.  

 

 

Scoring goals leaving nothing to chance with point differential and staying sharp is one thing and not wrong

 

 

Acting classless on every goal and representing your country with poor sportsmanship is another

 

 

 

Here are two similar blowouts with examples on how to act when the game is out of hand

 

https://youtu.be/-3LDDkdZ0ug

 

https://youtu.be/QaP672-eEFM

[Bray Wyatt]

It seems like the people against the celebrations are talking out both sides of their mouths, they say its not about running up the score as there is goal differential tie breaker, but then turn around and say they shouldnt celebrate bc they are up so much. Wouldnt each goal still be important and then worth celebrating?

[May Day 10]

No.  Class and sportsmanship.  The result of the match is not in any doubt.  Likely very little doubt about the us' slot in the elimination round.  No need to clown it up

Edited June 13, 2019 by May Day 10

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Agree totally. Really shocked at how quickly the discussion about sportsmanship turns to gender. Seriously, what does that have to do with this? It's a d**k move if you have one or not. I wonder how many soccer parents cheering the USWNT for this would like their kids being in the receiving end of a beatdown with celebrations?

 

The only one I've seen making it about gender is Abby Wambach, suggesting she doesn't really have any reasonable argument.

 

 

36 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

It seems like the people against the celebrations are talking out both sides of their mouths, they say its not about running up the score as there is goal differential tie breaker, but then turn around and say they shouldnt celebrate bc they are up so much. Wouldnt each goal still be important and then worth celebrating?

 

A team that wins 13-0 is really worried about goal differential?  Somehow I think the US team will manage to beat all the odds and squeak into the elimination round.  

 

Unlike the women's Olympic hockey team which always seems like a nice group of girls, the US soccer team always seems like mouthy, arrogant group.  I know that's over generalizing, but it's the impression I always get.

[Bray Wyatt]

5 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

The only one I've seen making it about gender is Abby Wambach, suggesting she doesn't really have any reasonable argument.

 

 

 

A team that wins 13-0 is really worried about goal differential?  Somehow I think the US team will manage to beat all the odds and squeak into the elimination round.  

 

Unlike the women's Olympic hockey team which always seems like a nice group of girls, the US soccer team always seems like mouthy, arrogant group.  I know that's over generalizing, but it's the impression I always get.

 

This team lost to Sweden before which is in there group. No victory is guaranteed and it being the first match of group play, getting a cushion like that is important. This is what these players train hard for year round, so when that work pays off, let them celebrate. I have not heard any complaints from the Thailand team, and if they arent upset, why care?

[KD in CA]

1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

This team lost to Sweden before which is in there group. No victory is guaranteed and it being the first match of group play, getting a cushion like that is important. This is what these players train hard for year round, so when that work pays off, let them celebrate. I have not heard any complaints from the Thailand team, and if they arent upset, why care?

 

I care because they set a sh---y example for kids.  I wouldn't let my 8 yo daughters' soccer team over celebrate a 13-0 win and would hope the other coaches would do the same if we were on the short end.

 

And of course Thailand didn't complain.  You could set them on fire and they wouldn't complain, that's their culture.

[Bray Wyatt]

5 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

I care because they set a sh---y example for kids.  I wouldn't let my 8 yo daughters' soccer team over celebrate a 13-0 win and would hope the other coaches would do the same if we were on the short end.

 

And of course Thailand didn't complain.  You could set them on fire and they wouldn't complain, that's their culture.

 

8 y/o soccer is not the same thing as a WC match, I would hope as a parent you could explain the difference to your child

[Mike in Horseheads]

https://sports.theonion.com/u-s-women-s-soccer-team-handing-out-flyers-to-advertis-1835333319

U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Handing Out Flyers To Advertise World Cup Tournament

[KD in CA]

59 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

8 y/o soccer is not the same thing as a WC match, I would hope as a parent you could explain the difference to your child

 

What difference, that sportsmanship doesn't apply to adults?   Or in the World Cup?   Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Bray Wyatt]

12 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

What difference, that sportsmanship doesn't apply to adults?   Or in the World Cup?   Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

 

 

So do you just not like celebrating in general? Or is there some sort of book on when to celebrate?

 

I dont see professionals celebrating as unsportsmanlike. Do you get mad when NFL players celebrate touchdowns too?

[Dante]

On 6/12/2019 at 4:29 AM, RaoulDuke79 said:

It's not a good look. Bad karma.

It's a horrible look. However, it's probably the only thing worthy of attention in women's soccer.

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

So do you just not like celebrating in general? Or is there some sort of book on when to celebrate?

 

I dont see professionals celebrating as unsportsmanlike. Do you get mad when NFL players celebrate touchdowns too?

 

Yes there is a book.  Adults with a clue have read it.  Hopefully someone will pass you a copy soon.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

The only one I've seen making it about gender is Abby Wambach, suggesting she doesn't really have any reasonable argument.

 

 

I'm referring to various Facebook and Twitter folks. "You wouldn't say that if it were men." "Stop man-splaining." Or "did you even watch the game?" Actually yes. Not only did I see that game, I've watched some or all of EVERY game because I'm stuck at home recovering from knee surgery!

[Bray Wyatt]

1 hour ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yes there is a book.  Adults with a clue have read it.  Hopefully someone will pass you a copy soon.

 

No need to be condescending I was trying to understand the foundation from which you are basing this celebration stance. Is it inappropriate all the time? Or certain instances it is allowed, if so when? 

 

 

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I'm referring to various Facebook and Twitter folks. "You wouldn't say that if it were men." "Stop man-splaining." Or "did you even watch the game?" Actually yes. Not only did I see that game, I've watched some or all of EVERY game because I'm stuck at home recovering from knee surgery!

 

I agree that whole gender thing is completely baseless imo 

[May Day 10]

39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I'm referring to various Facebook and Twitter folks. "You wouldn't say that if it were men." "Stop man-splaining." Or "did you even watch the game?" Actually yes. Not only did I see that game, I've watched some or all of EVERY game because I'm stuck at home recovering from knee surgery!

 

 

I was in a similar discussion in a different forum and somebody accused me of gender bias, and was serious about it.

[Boca BIlls]

They were making fun of the wet blanket people who were crying over the celebrating in Around the Horn hahahaha....

[Nextmanup]

The US beat-down of Thailand was fun to watch.  Initially I said "I'd like to see if they can get to 8."

 

That quickly turned to 10 for double digits, and after that, I was thinking they should get as much as possible b/c that may be a record that is never broken.  Or at least not for a long time.

 

Germany is proving to be disappointing in this tournament.

 

I think the USA has a solid shot at repeating; France looks good as well.

 

 

[RaoulDuke79]

5 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

So do you just not like celebrating in general? Or is there some sort of book on when to celebrate?

 

I dont see professionals celebrating as unsportsmanlike. Do you get mad when NFL players celebrate touchdowns too?

You dont see any of the 4 major sports celebrating like that with a lead of that magnitude. Can you imagine if the Patriots were up on the Bills 56-0 and Edelman scores another TD and starts dancing all over the field what the reaction would be. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, RaoulDuke79 said:

You dont see any of the 4 major sports celebrating like that with a lead of that magnitude. Can you imagine if the Patriots were up on the Bills 56-0 and Edelman scores another TD and starts dancing all over the field what the reaction would be. 

 

... With under a minute to play. Two goals came in injury time.

[Bray Wyatt]

1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

You dont see any of the 4 major sports celebrating like that with a lead of that magnitude. Can you imagine if the Patriots were up on the Bills 56-0 and Edelman scores another TD and starts dancing all over the field what the reaction would be. 

 

If I remember correctly when they did something similar to us (was it a Sunday night game during the Jauron era?) people were complaining about the fact that they were running up the score, and the common refrain at the time was if you don’t like them running up the score, stop them. The same can be said of the celebrations, if you don’t like them, don’t give them anything to celebrate about

[RaoulDuke79]

2 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

If I remember correctly when they did something similar to us (was it a Sunday night game during the Jauron era?) people were complaining about the fact that they were running up the score, and the common refrain at the time was if you don’t like them running up the score, stop them. The same can be said of the celebrations, if you don’t like them, don’t give them anything to celebrate about

Well yeah that may have been the refrain, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It's like someone taking all the free samples at Costco. There are unwritten rules in life that separate decent people from dickheads.

[Bray Wyatt]

44 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Well yeah that may have been the refrain, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It's like someone taking all the free samples at Costco. There are unwritten rules in life that separate decent people from dickheads.

 

This is an interesting take, celebrating a score in sports makes one a *****? 

[stony]

50 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Well yeah that may have been the refrain, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It's like someone taking all the free samples at Costco. There are unwritten rules in life that separate decent people from dickheads.

I believe that person deserves to die a traitors death.  

[RaoulDuke79]

9 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

This is an interesting take, celebrating a score in sports makes one a *****? 

Its about situational awareness.  Goal 1 vs. Goal 9.