Dr. Who Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: So.... 1 win in the entire month of November with 2 more games to go (both against the leafs in a back to back). That’s just beyond brutal. It’s not even thanksgiving and im pretty much already mentally checked out on this season. Sick of being a Sabres fan. Yep. Writing them off, just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Once again, The Sabres goaltender gets outplayed by the opponents goalie seemingly every single game. They don’t score enough, they have defensive lapses and they need a #1 goalie to carry the weight and steal a game now and then. im not mad though. I’ve been checked out mentally for 3 years. But still like to follow the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Just like last year, last place team except for one hot streak. Let’s not forget the tank team won like 8 of ten at one point in December that year , only difference was they were TRYING to lose. Good thing is looks like the Sabres won’t have that stretch of .500 hockey that kept them out of last place last year. Looks like we will have it firmly locked down by Christmas. I must say, outside the win streak last year, the tank year was the most fun , and most I have been invested, in a Sabre season in the last 7 years or so. Bots has to face the music he overplayed his hand this summer and has painted himself into a box. This sums up what I have been saying all fall, Risto stinks, he costs this team points at an alarming rate, and somehow people see worth a young top 6 forward. I guess if Botts can find someone as dumb as he is, he might get back a 7-9 forward , but a 2nd and a middling prospect gets it done for me. Just get him and McCabe and their minutes off this team, bring up Pilut, and start playing Miller for Christ’s sake. What, we worried all the winning may stop? He may go down as possibly the worst GM in NHL history. Only person who may be happy bout all this losing is Housley. We may have 3 last places finishes in a row, and what is ... 5 of 7? But it lets all remember , he has a plan to develop !!!!! 6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: So.... 1 win in the entire month of November with 2 more games to go (both against the leafs in a back to back). That’s just beyond brutal. It’s not even thanksgiving and im pretty much already mentally checked out on this season. Sick of being a Sabres fan. It’s amazing how far this organization has fallen. The Redskins of the NHL, people have stopped caring. Edited November 28, 2019 by plenzmd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I feel bad for season ticket holders. A better goalie in free agency would be a faster fix. I still appreciate the Pegulas , they are trying hard. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) The attached link is WGR's Paul Hamilton giving his summary of the game. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/the-sabres-lose-in-overtime-to-the-floundering-flames The below link is Krueger's post game comments. It's a five minute segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/11-27-ralph-krueger-post-game Edited November 28, 2019 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Krueger in the booth? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Botterill built a finesse team. I’d fire him. He waited too long to deal #55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Helpmenow Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Something major is gotta happen with the owner. Back page news with this group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Something major is gotta happen with the owner. Back page news with this group Terry P guarding the door to the press box, making sure Daboll stays there. He’ll deal with the Sabres after the season ends for the Bills. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 8 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Looks like we will have it firmly locked down by Christmas. Ever since I learned about the Halloween thing, that's all I root for. We're on a streak with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnC Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Risto embodies a physically talented player who often exhibits a lack of intelligence on the ice. The result can be crushing. https://buffalonews.com/2019/11/29/buffalo-sabres-calgary-flames-rasmus-ristolainen-elias-lindholm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: Risto embodies a player who often exhibits a lack of intelligence on the ice. The result are always crushing. https://buffalonews.com/2019/11/29/buffalo-sabres-calgary-flames-rasmus-ristolainen-elias-lindholm/ fixed it for you Edited November 29, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: fixed it for you You are a rascal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 For all the "Risto is worth a Top 6 forward" folks, here is Burke on when he ran the Flames Quote We were thinking about making a trade for him in Calgary," Brian Burke, the former president of hockey operations for the Flames, said last week during a panel discussion in Toronto. "And we actually got several phone calls into this trade, and our analytics guy said, 'You guys are out of your minds.'" Burke added, "Chris Snow is our analytics guy - he's a genius. He says don't do a deal, we don't do a deal. That's how much weight we give him. But that's where the eye test failed. The player looked better than he was." So, if Ristolainen is nearly impossible to trade, which NHL defenseman might Botterill flip for a decent forward? Not Rasmus Dahlin (injured and a superstar talent) or Zach Bogosian (minimal value). Probably not Brandon Montour, Jake McCabe or Henri Jokiharju. Perhaps it'll be Colin Miller? Marco Scandella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 What just happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: For all the "Risto is worth a Top 6 forward" folks, here is Burke on when he ran the Flames If you are not going to get a top 6 forward for Risto then keep him. The analytics on any player on a bad team (for the previous couple of years) is going to have skewed negative analytical numbers. As I have often said if you are not going to get comparable value back on any deal then don't make the deal. If I had to guess I would say that Scandella would be the most likely defenseman to be traded if one is made. In general, he has been playing fairly well, and I do like Miller. He has wheels. In this Toronto game and win I thought Ullmark was our first star. He kept us in the game especially with his glove saves on Nylander in the first period. It's apparent that he has moved ahead of Hutton as our #1 goalies. Although Toronto clearly has more firepower the Sabres kept up with them all game long. In this game the Sabres were fortunate that the Toronto goalie wasn't very good. Ever since Vesey scored his first game he is looser and is playing well. Olofsson can be a first or second line forward. He can shoot and is playing a more well rounded game. Mittlestadt is slowly but steadily getting better. Anyone who is prematurely declaring him a failed first pick deserves a kick in the nuts for foolishness. I thought Scandella played a good game. Asplund is not a scorer but he is an active player. I like him a lot. Jack is great. Even in the team's recent struggles from a won/lost standpoint this team has competed, and for the most part even against the very good teams has not been outclassed. To the alarmists who act as if their pants are on fire I say stay the course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) WGR's Brayton Wilson gives his summary of the game with some clips. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-hold-off-the-maple-leafs-6-4 The below link is a WGR Krueger post game comments. This is a 5 min. segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/11-29-ralph-krueger-post-game Edited November 30, 2019 by JohnC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Beating the leafs and sending them over the bridges is always good. Three cheers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 Nice win! Glad I decided to watch. Going to be tougher her tomorrow night in Toronto with Andersen in net, but they have a chance if they play like they did tonight (and clean up a few of the mistakes, ideally). On 11/26/2019 at 6:39 PM, BillsFan4 said: Looking forward to seeing this! I remember many of the Domi vs. Ray fights. I wonder how long this is if they’re splitting it into 2 parts. Definitely looking forward to Domi and Ray’s commentary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Have to give em credit, good games in 3 of last 4. Win tonight Bots is GM of year candidate. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Have to give em credit, good games in 3 of last 4. Win tonight Bots is GM of year candidate. ? You need to get more comfortable with him because he is going to be the Sabre GM longer than you want. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 hours ago, JohnC said: You need to get more comfortable with him because he is going to be the Sabre GM longer than you want. ? Ehh, you said the same thing bout Housley last year right up to the last pitiful game. But i I was not being facetious when said they have played well 3 of 4. Let’s hope for a win tonight and maybe they can turn this ship around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Ehh, you said the same thing bout Housley last year right up to the last pitiful game. But i I was not being facetious when said they have played well 3 of 4. Let’s hope for a win tonight and maybe they can turn this ship around You never understood my position on Housley. What you couldn't grasp is that he wasn't the primary problem with this team. The biggest issue was the talent level. Housley was fired and a better coach was hired so that issue should become a dormant issue. Now you have to chase another bogeyman. The Sabres played well in this game and came out of it with a point. I'm not satisfied with this OT loss but I'm not dissatisfied with the caliber of play and the earning of a point. The biggest factor in the Toronto win was their goalie. He made a number of clutch saves. Hutton also played well although I thought the goal he let in overtime was a tad soft. Although the Leafs had more shots I thought we had more quality shots. This was a hard fought game where the effort level for both teams was high. In general I liked how the Sabres played. This compressed schedule is brutal. Jack is great. He is getting better and playing a more well rounded game. There is a loud chorus in this room calling to trade one or more of our defensemen for some forward help. I don't see any of the dealt players bringing back enough. Having depth on defense is an asset, not something to lament. This is a good unit. In this game I thought Risto played well. Those misguided people who are calling for the firing of our GM are grotesquely off the mark. I will continue to argue to stay the course. Edited December 1, 2019 by JohnC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Clearly looks over the goal line to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The below link is WGR's Paul Hamilton's post-game snapshot writeup of the game. He points out that the opportunities were there but Toronto's goalie stymied the shooters. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/the-sabres-get-three-out-of-four-points-against-toronto 1 hour ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Clearly looks over the goal line to me. If hitting the cross bar was worth half a goal we would have won. Olofsson and Reinhart excel at that art form that doesn't give you any statistical credit. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 hours ago, JohnC said: You never understood my position on Housley. What you couldn't grasp is that he wasn't the primary problem with this team. The biggest issue was the talent level. Housley was fired and a better coach was hired so that issue should become a dormant issue. Now you have to chase another bogeyman. The Sabres played well in this game and came out of it with a point. I'm not satisfied with this OT loss but I'm not dissatisfied with the caliber of play and the earning of a point. The biggest factor in the Toronto win was their goalie. He made a number of clutch saves. Hutton also played well although I thought the goal he let in overtime was a tad soft. Although the Leafs had more shots I thought we had more quality shots. This was a hard fought game where the effort level for both teams was high. In general I liked how the Sabres played. This compressed schedule is brutal. Jack is great. He is getting better and playing a more well rounded game. There is a loud chorus in this room calling to trade one or more of our defensemen for some forward help. I don't see any of the dealt players bringing back enough. Having depth on defense is an asset, not something to lament. This is a good unit. In this game I thought Risto played well. Those misguided people who are calling for the firing of our GM are grotesquely off the mark. I will continue to argue to stay the course. And if they don’t make the playoffs and eichel wants outta here you still keep botterill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: And if they don’t make the playoffs and eichel wants outta here you still keep botterill I don't think the Sabres will make the playoffs this year. I'm counting on them to be in the playoff running up to the end of the season. Jack is the Captain of the team. Do you have inside information that he wants out? Because I haven't heard anything about his disgruntlement. Does he get frustrated? Of course he does. And that is one of the reasons why he is great i.e. his desire to win. And to answer your question without any equivocation I want Botterill back. As long as this team continues to get better I am more than satisfied with his work. Despite what the alarmists have continued to yell there never was a quick fix. In the real world reality supecedes fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, JohnC said: Olofsson and Reinhart excel at that art form that doesn't give you any statistical credit. ☹️ I think the metrics sorts are working on a way so it reflects in the HPR (hockey player rating), unless it happens when the team is on a power play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The attached link is a column written by the Buffalo News's Mike Harrington about this game and the Sabres. I thought it was a fair representation of the status of the team. https://buffalonews.com/2019/11/30/buffalo-sabres-nhl-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Clearly looks over the goal line to me. I'm pretty sure this is a picture of my laundry room 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 This link is a column by Bill Hoppe with Buffalo Hockey Beat. This link was taken from the hockey side of TBD. The thrust of the article is that there are some positive signs indicated from the team's recent play. http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/sabres-showing-signs-of-progress-close-month-one-point-out-of-playoff-spot/?view=getnewpost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 The attached link is a column by Bill Hoppe for the Buffalo Hockey Beat. It focuses on Olofsson and how he is developing a more well-rounded game. It notes that he could be in the running for a Rookie of the Year award. http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/sabres-rookie-victor-olofsson-quickly-develops-into-all-around-presence/?view=getnewpost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 7:55 AM, ChevyVanMiller said: Clearly looks over the goal line to me. The angles are too tricky on that one. If by some chance that's a straight down shot from the crossbar, I'd say that puck is in line with some of the post. There's nothing there to clearly say it's over the line. Now, if you can pair this shot with the same exact moment from a side view, you can compare the two to get a better idea of where exactly the puck is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) That Ray vs Domi beyond blue&gold was great. Can’t wait to see this one tonight. This is good to see! Seems like Okposo is recovering well. Okposo vs Skinner ping pong championship game - https://www.nhl.com/sabres/video/paddle-battle-championship-game/t-277437090/c-4736476 Edited December 2, 2019 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 WGR's Paul Hamilton writes about Okposo's health status. The organization is going to be cautious about his return to play. You have to worry about the post career effects of the numerous concussions he has suffered. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-okposo-is-back-practicing-after-a-concussion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) (Episode) Beyond Blue & Gold: Founding the franchise - https://www.nhl.com/sabres/video/bbg-founding-of-the-franchise/t-277437090/c-4736927 It was 50 years ago today that the franchise was founded. Edited December 3, 2019 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The New Jersey Devils: good for what ails you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The Devils are one of the most disgraceful outfits I have ever seen suit up in the NHL. I would say they are bad, but I don't feel like insulting bad teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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